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#1 Sep 09 2008 at 12:01 AM Rating: Good
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So i goto the first PQ with my witch elf and everytime people running killing things left and right and im doing damage I think i'm killing things at at the end of the rolls I come in 14th place. WTF i sure i was better than 14th i think to myself, never winning a prize.

Well happenstance I'm on the phone and of course still playing but not really paying attention to the game itself just tabbing and throwing knives at low and behold I come in 2nd place. I think fluke lets try this again, so again and again i just stand in one place Tab and throw knives and everytime i come with in the top 4. So I come to the conclusion stand in one place tab and throw knives and your pretty much will win a prize most of the time.
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#2 Sep 09 2008 at 1:25 AM Rating: Decent
I think it is how much total dmg you put in. I am playing SW, and usually finish in the top 5 when i sit back and just launch arrows. :)
#3 Sep 09 2008 at 6:03 AM Rating: Good
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You can click on the Rolling for loots icon to see who recieved what bonus to their rolls and what you actually rolled. Considering the roll is a /ran 1000, and the most I've seen a gold medal give was +350 to roll, you still have quite a bit of margin for loss. I recieved a gold medal in a PQ last night, ended up rolling 135 for a total of 485....not even enough to win a lesser bag.
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#4 Sep 10 2008 at 12:48 PM Rating: Good
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I've come in first place for contribution and rolled 50 for loot, so that even with my first place bonus of +500 I came in dead last in loot rolls, winning nothing but the exp and influence I gained during the PQ.

Coming in higher on the tally helps your chances at loot, but never, never guarantees that you'll win a loot bag.

And yes, it's the amount of damage you do and, I believe, healing you contribute (otherwise you can totally see healers getting jacked, and I know my friend has gotten first place before as a healer).
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#5 Sep 10 2008 at 1:09 PM Rating: Decent
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Not sure when you joined in the PQ (the one where you came in 14th), yes you might have rocked socks in there... but you may have come in during chapter3 the final boss, or in some cases chapter 2 where it's just collecting and not killing stuff... so no damage there.

Just wondering if that could have happened.

I usually don't do well on my mage toon, because if it's a Hero mob and I get aggro I'm basically done for. After my little shield and the aggro ability wear off I'm done for lol. So I tend to watch for the mob with the HP reduction by Tabbing around. Then my really good spell takes 3 seconds to cast so a lot of time the mob dies before I get to cast it lol.
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#6 Sep 10 2008 at 5:48 PM Rating: Good
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I don't know...I just notice if i go into a PQ and fight it tradition running up to badguys and taking down one at a time i usually come in around 10th were as if i just sit back and tab and whip knives i come in with in the top 4. I don't know perhaps you get partial credit for every badguy you even do a little damage too, were as if you go one to one you doing more damage but to way less badguys. I've tried this method in multiple PQ's now and its worked for me everytime.
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#7 Sep 10 2008 at 6:05 PM Rating: Decent
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I know this isn't the place, but DVEight I sent you a pm some time ago, and I was hoping to have a response by now.

As for PQs I think roll need to be lowered, currently they matter twice as much as contribution, and contribution should be measured by threat generated so that tanks have a fairer contribution rating.
#8 Sep 10 2008 at 6:18 PM Rating: Excellent
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Allegory hates healers!!! ;p

I don't mind making it *A* factor, making it THE factor is silly, considering just healing right now gets my zealot NOTHING!

Hitting a bunch of little things with my shaman attack though, gets me #1.
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I AM a healer. I admit I don't fully understand how contribution is awarded in PQ, but many people seem to think it is flawed.

As a shaman I would tab spam my dots on mobs, ctrl tab spam my hot, and use ere we go on my group whenever it was up. This caused me to rise to the top of the contribution list most every time, so long as I did not join significantly late. In the boss fights I would hot of the tank, dot up the boss, and then chain spam nukes.

I think that the problem some players are having is that although they significantly contribute towards one mob, by tanking or dealing lots of damage to it, they forget that there are lots of mobs and lots of participants. Even though my healing on each individual player was minimal I was healing every player who took damage. Even though my dps to each mob was minuscule I was dealing damage to every single mob. I understand that not every class can do this, and I'm not arguing it is fair, but it may perhaps help in understanding effective PQ strategies.

Edited, Sep 11th 2008 1:36pm by Allegory
#10 Sep 11 2008 at 5:37 AM Rating: Decent
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I PQ'd it up all last night. The troll lands or w/e it's called have some REALLY good items for Elite rank. It's only a blue item, but for my mage it's 20 int to staff and that currently doubles my green staff.

Anyway, in the level 10 area there were not a whole lot of people around yet. So what I've started learning to do is just knock out the 1 of 70 mobs killed in P1. They're just regular mobs adn give 100 influence or more per kill. I've literally killed all 75 mobs and made it just under Elite, and got some nice experience points.

As for getting bags. If there's a lot of people there, some areas have more than one PQ for that area's influence. Maybe get your party and move to a different one. I've seen many left alone for a while, so I killed the phase 1 mobs and finished questing lol.

Also, the smaller the party the better. Just entering the troll lands place there's a PQ almost right inside the town. I managed to get a invite from a healer and a tank that were grouping. Well that made 1-tank, 1-healer, and 1-ranged dps. We trio'd the PQ. I got my 1st Epic (purple) item (a ring rank 11 tho, just 1 more level until I equip that sucka) from a major loot bag. Can try that.... hope it helps.

Edited, Sep 11th 2008 9:37am by GYFFORD
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#11 Sep 11 2008 at 8:22 AM Rating: Excellent
On my Sorc, all I usually do is tab DoT EVERYTHING and I'm fairly often #1.
#12 Sep 11 2008 at 12:55 PM Rating: Good
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I play a squig herder, level 7 currently, and from 4-7 in various PQs I've managed to come in anywhere from first to fourth the majority of the time.

In the PQs that are pretty contained, I set the squig on aggressive and let him loose, and tab DoT and shoot everything, usually keeping on one mob until it's dead (which is pretty darn quick) before moving on to the next. The squig just attacks and mauls on its own.

Unlike FFXI's campaign it doesn't seem to give extra for actual kill shots, just damage given. It seems like those job classes with ranged damage ability will have the advantage in these unless/until they give more points for kill shots and/or damage taken.

I'm not exactly sure of the formula used for determining contribution. I'll have to check out some of the other, bigger messageboards to see if anyone's taken the time to figure it out.

But as people have said, DoTs seem to be the winner here.
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#13 Sep 11 2008 at 2:09 PM Rating: Decent
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I don't believe dots have any benefit over other spells. I think the instant cast component combined with only the GCD is what makes them better. If you try to tab cast a 2 second spell then your target is likely to die before you finish. Most instant direct damage abilities have a CD that makes them impractical for tab spamming.

Edited, Sep 11th 2008 7:33pm by Allegory
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