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#1 Jun 13 2008 at 12:01 PM Rating: Good
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Is Ouryu resistant to Stun and or Headbutt?

We're putting together a party right now and trying to figure out if 2 BLUs can stunlock.

Everywhere I've looked hasn't mentioned it at all, for nor against.

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#2 Jun 13 2008 at 1:07 PM Rating: Good
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This indicates Ouryu cannot be stunned. It's unclear if that means that he cannot be stunned at all, or simply cannot be stunned in the air.
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#3 Jun 13 2008 at 3:27 PM Rating: Excellent
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Like 2 weeks ago, i get an invite for 4-2 i was Blu/Nin, my roll in party was:

1. Use mismelt to keep him down.
2. Stun some skill moves.

In that order

Well I also toss some heal to our Paladin.

So yes Ouryu can be stuned but only when he isnt flying.

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#4 Jun 13 2008 at 7:27 PM Rating: Good
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Good to know. Rate up!
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We fought him and won!

Sophorsonic and Sheep Song were both very effective in sleeping him too.

Jet Stream and all other Semi long range abilies hit him while he's in the air too.
#6 Jun 16 2008 at 5:30 AM Rating: Decent
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We fought him and won!

Sophorsonic and Sheep Song were both very effective in sleeping him too.

Jet Stream and all other Semi long range abilies hit him while he's in the air too.


Congratulations
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#7 Aug 12 2008 at 8:02 AM Rating: Good
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Would this be doable with a group of PLD, BLU, BLMx4 sleep nuking?

If not, or if this would be unsafe, any suggestions on modifications?

Just found this post and it might fit our setup...

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So for the next run, we went on Fire's day with the following setup:

PLD (main tank)
PLD (back-up tank + healing + flash + mistmelt) << this was me
BLU (main healer + Dispel Stoneskin)
BLM 48 (so no Freeze for him)
BLM
BLM

Here are the roles, for every job:

For all BLM the strategy was to use the DD cycle described at some point on this page. Namely: AERO >> AEROGA >> FREEZE (with synchronize on time) >> ES + SLEEP >> rest >> repeat. Also keep Silence on the mob.

1st PLD straight tanked it. EXTREMELY important is to have and spam hi-potions. The dragon hits hard and fast and only curese, won't keep you alive, even coming from a PLD and a BLU at the same time.

2nd PLD healed, flashed, used mistmelt and, of course, was ready to take hate when needed. Flash makes a big difference, as if it saves 2-3 hits, it's like a Cure IV with 25 MP. Also, this PLD was ready on the mistmelts. The rule was that whatever PLD was not tanking, would use mistmelts, so they were split, 4 to one PLD and 4 to the other. It turned out that hate stood in a single place.

BLU was main healer + Dispel stoneskin, absolutely no fighting from this guy, just spam cures.

The fight was very easy. The dragon flew about 3 times. Use mistmelt immediately. Do not try to Sleep in air or anything.

We went for the dry run. After the 1st cycle of Aero >> Aeroga >> Frezee it was at 64%, even if only 2 BLMs actually had Freeze, since one was 48. Sleep didn't stick, so the other BLMS casted also and it finally went to sleep.

Rest, use potions, whatever. Tank continues voking the dragon while it sleeps, to keep hate. At this point we decided it's ok to transfor the run into a normal one, as things looked good.

Plan was to Invincible >> Manafont when the main tank was close to death. However, after the 2nd round of Aero >> Aeroga >> Freeze, the fight was over, with the dragon at 30%. No 2H used. I used no hi-potions at all. Some juices used. Overall, really easy.

Important things:

1. Do not rely on cures only, they will not keep you alive. Bring hi-potions. Like 10-15 won't hurt.

2. Do not do something like Freeze >> Sleep >> Freeze. The tank will lose hate. Stick with something like described.

3. Bring mistmelts. About 8 would be good, so that you can do two runs (you won't use more than 4 on a run, IMHO).

4. Calculate carefully your DD power. Healing can be supplemented with hi-potions. You cannot really replace or suplement DD with items.

5. If possible, do not fight on Earth's day. The difference seemed to be quite big.

That's about it. Good luck to all! ^^

-Flasher

Can we do a WHM instead of a 2nd PLD who can flash and keep the PLD alive and be effective? We can do PLD, WHM, BLU, BLMx3 for this.

Edited, Aug 12th 2008 12:08pm by dawgdchi
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#8 Aug 12 2008 at 8:28 AM Rating: Decent
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Would this be doable with a group of PLD, BLU, BLMx4 sleep nuking?


Actually this was the setup when we win.

Like i say before this was my primary duty on party:
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1. Use mismelt to keep him down.
2. Stun some skill moves.

In that order

Well I also toss some heal to our Paladin.

So yes Ouryu can be stuned but only when he isnt flying.


Also 1 of the Blm was helping with some cure on Pal.
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#9 Aug 12 2008 at 10:51 AM Rating: Decent
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Would this be doable with a group of PLD, BLU, BLMx4 sleep nuking?


3x BLMs can kill it, so...

BLU shouldn't sleep btw, the BLMs should be using their Elemental Seal + Sleep 2s. You want to ensure maximum duration on the sleeps because they are going to have hate.

Edited, Aug 12th 2008 2:49pm by Fynlar
#10 Aug 12 2008 at 11:42 AM Rating: Good
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Well...we have actually 5 people that can come BLM...

The BLU in my setup can come RDM or BRD as well...

I'm the PLD there and can come as a tank job or WHM.

Thoughts?
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