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#1 Jan 27 2008 at 6:22 PM Rating: Good
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is the campagin wings rank in the game yet, or is the holyknight emblem as far as you can go?
#2 Jan 27 2008 at 7:27 PM Rating: Good
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you only can get the holyknight emblem as of now. They will release the wings in a later update.
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#3 Jan 27 2008 at 10:09 PM Rating: Excellent
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so, if they dont add the wings rank within 30 days, i get demoted?
#4 Jan 28 2008 at 2:53 AM Rating: Excellent
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You can renew the duration of your medal if you haven't earned enough AN to obtain a rank up but at the same time more then enough to not be demoted, so I assume you automatically get a renew when you reach the highest medal availible.
#5 Jan 30 2008 at 11:35 AM Rating: Good
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another question

how much of a basic sanctions like XP bonus will a holyknight emblem net you?

I read that these medals actually give xp bonuses with sigil up but never confirmed it.
#6 Feb 06 2008 at 5:00 AM Rating: Good
I don't think The HolyKnight Emblem grants you any experience bonus but I believe the higher your rank the higher total experience you can obtain from campain battle on one tag, which isn't a problem anyway if you just refresh your tag between waves anyway.
Also it appears many of us with HolyKnight Emblems will see them expire before the update and Wings and Medals are available. If you let your Emblem expire then you will lose it and have to earn it again. I believe your will have to at some time before your Emblem expires "accept the evaluation" which will let you keep your HolyKnight Emblem and give you a fresh 30-days. This will also reset any work you have done towards your first Wing to 0. This shouldn't be a problem if you do Campain regularly anyway.

Edited, Feb 6th 2008 8:02am by yenrab
#7 Feb 06 2008 at 10:05 AM Rating: Excellent
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It's not so much that when it expires, you have to earn it again... more just that when it expires, you *have* to accept the evaluation results and don't have the option of turning them down. So if they were offering status quo, you'll be forced to accept that status quo rather than keep working towards promotion. If they were offering demotion, you'll be forced to accept demotion rather than keep working towards status quo or promotion.

Having said that, it might not be a bad idea to accept a status quo evaluation about 5 days before the update, so that you can then work on campaign some more during those 5 days, and hopefully be able to rank up immediately after the update.
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#8 Feb 14 2008 at 10:39 AM Rating: Good
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I am so glad that this post was started, I've been going nuts trying to get rank up on Holyknights Emblem and couldn't figure out what the deal was.

Rank up to you all and thanks!
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#9 Feb 24 2008 at 1:56 PM Rating: Good
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Vilurum wrote:


Having said that, it might not be a bad idea to accept a status quo evaluation about 5 days before the update, so that you can then work on campaign some more during those 5 days, and hopefully be able to rank up immediately after the update.


Is this even possible? I have earned over 10k AN since i got promoted, and have yet to be given the option to accept the status quo. Just curious if I need more AN or maybe we can't keep out highest rank.
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#10 Mar 11 2008 at 6:35 PM Rating: Default
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I really hope someone will read this and help me for I am so frustrated and about to quit the game. I have done campaign and ops daily since it came out. for the past two months I have tried to get the wings upgrade. Last night after the patch I signed in, checked with alfred he said I had 1 more day before I could get an evaluation. This morning I checked with alfred, he said that the war council was upset and took my holyknight medal away. It was not a full day. Last week I checked with Alfred, he told me I had less than a day. I went to check my plants, took maybe 5 minutes, checked with alfred again, he said the council was not happy. Two times I have tried to talk to a GM to see if maybe alfred was bugged or something, both times the gm's said that there is nothing wrong and to check with the FFXI website to see what I am missing. Before I could send another question to this last GM she clicked me off and I am furious over that. I have spoken to all the npc's in sandy S, its after the update and alfred still is screwing me up....time wise. I thought that its all based on real life days, but why would he tell me at 11:30pm last night that I had a day, then at 10:15 this morning, he tells me that the council is upset and he took a medal away, last week I had less than a day, gone for 5 mins, then he says council is upset, week before he said I had a day, I went to do a campaign, came back...council was upset with me. Can anyone help please
#11 Mar 12 2008 at 5:01 AM Rating: Decent
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The 1 day is based on when you got your last evaluation, he doesn't give you specifics just days. Anything more than being able to get the evaluation is expressed in days. This means that if you got your evaluation on Monday at 5pm, you can't eval until Saturday at 5pm at the earliest, if you show up at 4 pm he will still tell you one day remaining.

I haven't seen anything about the wings being in the game yet, if they were you'd figure there would be gear for the rank but it seems there is not. I don't know why alfred would take your medal other than possibly not hitting the total amount eeded for the rank. Wiki theorizes 10000AN to rank up to holy knight and from my experience of getting it on Monday that would seems to be the case. Each medal takes more and more to get.
#12 Mar 12 2008 at 5:05 AM Rating: Decent
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thank you very much for replying and your info. It's more than the GM's would do!!!
#13 Mar 12 2008 at 8:49 AM Rating: Good
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Incidentally, just because the council is upset and the evaluation result is to remove a medal, doesn't mean you have to accept that. Until your 30 day medal duration is up, you're not *forced* to accept the council's decision. You can instead choose in the cutscene to keep working on campaign so that you'll look better to the council.

So it's not like you only have those five first days to impress the council and if you haven't done enough in that time then you're screwed. Just turn down the evaluation results, go do more campaign, and check back with Alfred (or whoever) every few campaign battles to see if the council's being friendlier yet.

When they're offering an upgrade (unless you're already at Holyknight Emblem four-squiggle, which is the max at the moment, in which case they can't offer an upgrade), accept it. Or if you're at Holyknight Emblem four-squiggle, when they're offering status quo, accept *that*.

If you blow off campaign for a long time so that your 30 day medal duration expires, then you're forced to accept the evaluation, no matter whether it's gaining a medal, staying the same, or losing a medal. But until then, you're free to turn down the evaluation and keeping working on making yourself look good to the council.

Oh, and as already explained to you... the game won't tell you exactly in hours and minutes, but it *will* have a particular hour and minute when the number of days rolls over (which is the same hour and minute that you *accepted* your last evaluation). So if it says "5 days", that means anywhere from "4 days, 0 minutes, 1 second" to "5 days, 0 minutes, 0 seconds". Similarly "1 day" could mean anywhere from 1 second to 1 day. It rounds up, in other words.
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#14 Mar 14 2008 at 8:07 PM Rating: Decent
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TaruStud wrote:
I am so glad that this post was started, I've been going nuts trying to get rank up on Holyknights Emblem and couldn't figure out what the deal was.

Rank up to you all and thanks!


Sad that we actually thought they would release more WOG content. New WOG missions? No thanks, I'm still trying to get past #2. Maybe in the future I can buy the expansion for $1 and then pay as they give me stuff?

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#15 Mar 16 2008 at 6:36 AM Rating: Good
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Mind you, I don't think they added enough in this update to justify a four month wait. But I'm not imitating you, going around illogically saying they didn't add anything worthwhile, merely because what they *did* add wasn't something I was interested in. The fact remains that they did add stuff. Just because the new missions, new campaign battle updates, new DNC and SCH stuff (and a helluva lot of stuff for SCH), new NMs, new items, few new zones, new spells...

Just because that doesn't interest you, and your only qualification for "new content" is that it includes new campaign ranks... well, that doesn't mean there wasn't any new content. It might not have been *what* you wanted to see, it may not have been *as much* as you wanted to see. But you're sticking your head in the ground if you're gonna say they didn't add new content because they didn't add one specific thing.

(Oh, and in case you hadn't noticed from the last three expansions before this one, that whole "start with bare bones content, flesh it out through the life of the expansion with updates" thing is SE's modus operandi. It was naive of people to expect otherwise when they complained about it with CoP, after seeing RotZ. It was getting really silly to expect otherwise when they complained about it with ToAU, after seeing RotZ and CoP. And it's getting downright dumb to expect otherwise to complain about it with WotG, after seeing RotZ, CoP, and ToAU.)
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