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#1 Sep 19 2008 at 9:39 AM Rating: Good
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If i want to break the latent on say, an uber heartsnatcher, and i sync to like level 20, do you still get ws points?

I looked on wiki and they dont have anything yet. Just wondering if anyone has stumbled accross a yes/no in any of the level sync threads.
#2 Sep 19 2008 at 9:43 AM Rating: Good
I love good questions like this.

I can't foresee either way, but I know the latent on KSNM weapons goes away under cap.
#3 Sep 19 2008 at 9:46 AM Rating: Decent
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Well with the new weaponskill checker program that surfaced not too long ago, it will be much easier to confirm whether or not you can obtain WS points in certain situations. Weapons that require points to "break" store the points on the weapon themselves, and the program reads that information (Which is stored into local memory and updates when you zone). With the program, it has been confirmed that you cannot gain points in Dynamis or Campaign.
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#4 Sep 19 2008 at 9:51 AM Rating: Decent
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anyone on cpu wanna test it? im on xbox ; ;
#5REDACTED, Posted: Sep 19 2008 at 9:51 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I'm pretty sure anyone who cared enough to test would have been perfectly capable of just counting.
#6 Sep 19 2008 at 9:58 AM Rating: Excellent
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Caesura wrote:
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Well with the new weaponskill checker program that surfaced not too long ago, it will be much easier to confirm whether or not you can obtain WS points in certain situations.

I'm pretty sure anyone who cared enough to test would have been perfectly capable of just counting.


The reason why that program surfaced was due to the new Mythic WS quests that require large amounts of points to be counted. With a floor 20 disc you need some 7000+ weaponskill points, and with that many points, there is bound to be user error. Plus the program allowed the community to figure out exactly how many ws points were needed per floor as there were conflicting numbers that were being posted.
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#7 Sep 19 2008 at 9:59 AM Rating: Excellent
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I broke the latent on my trial weapon in a level sync party. The weapon gave me +hp even while synced and disappeared while level synced.
#8 Sep 19 2008 at 10:34 AM Rating: Excellent
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ROBEARLL wrote:
I broke the latent on my trial weapon in a level sync party. The weapon gave me +hp even while synced and disappeared while level synced.


I can confirm this with my coffinmaker, I had 1 point. Level synced to 10, did one weaponskill, checked my points and it was at 2. So yes, you can break latents while under level sync.
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#9 Sep 19 2008 at 11:05 AM Rating: Good
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I take it that campaign testing was with tags on, anyone know if you can get points if you use a WS while not wearing the tag?
#10 Sep 19 2008 at 12:01 PM Rating: Default
O.o

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Well with the new weaponskill checker program that surfaced not too long ago,


God I would need that, I had broken sword with a friend in 2hr and solo axe in a week to break but it been almost 3 months and I still cant break dagger ;_; and still no latent break.
#11 Sep 19 2008 at 12:04 PM Rating: Good
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#12 Sep 19 2008 at 6:01 PM Rating: Decent
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Well with the new weaponskill checker program that surfaced not too long ago, it will be much easier to confirm whether or not you can obtain WS points in certain situations. Weapons that require points to "break" store the points on the weapon themselves, and the program reads that information (Which is stored into local memory and updates when you zone). With the program, it has been confirmed that you cannot gain points in Dynamis or Campaign.


Where would one find this program?

edit: never mind... should have checked the "unspeakable" forums first. Thanks for the heads up.

Edited, Sep 19th 2008 9:58pm by Psych
#13 Sep 19 2008 at 6:04 PM Rating: Decent
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The ImmortalAlchemist of Doom wrote:
ROBEARLL wrote:
I broke the latent on my trial weapon in a level sync party. The weapon gave me +hp even while synced and disappeared while level synced.
I can confirm this with my coffinmaker, I had 1 point. Level synced to 10, did one weaponskill, checked my points and it was at 2. So yes, you can break latents while under level sync.
But did you use it on a monster you know wouldn't give any points?
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#14 Sep 19 2008 at 7:29 PM Rating: Decent
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The ImmortalAlchemist of Doom wrote:
Well with the new weaponskill checker program that surfaced not too long ago, it will be much easier to confirm whether or not you can obtain WS points in certain situations. Weapons that require points to "break" store the points on the weapon themselves, and the program reads that information (Which is stored into local memory and updates when you zone). With the program, it has been confirmed that you cannot gain points in Dynamis or Campaign.




If that's true, regarding Dynamis, then it must be new. I've broken two weapons in Dynamis (Axe, and Great Katana). I'm 98% sure you can get points in Dynamis. If it turns out I'm wrong about this I'll be extremely surprised.
#15 Sep 19 2008 at 7:38 PM Rating: Good
Dufflite wrote:
The ImmortalAlchemist of Doom wrote:
Well with the new weaponskill checker program that surfaced not too long ago, it will be much easier to confirm whether or not you can obtain WS points in certain situations. Weapons that require points to "break" store the points on the weapon themselves, and the program reads that information (Which is stored into local memory and updates when you zone). With the program, it has been confirmed that you cannot gain points in Dynamis or Campaign.




If that's true, regarding Dynamis, then it must be new. I've broken two weapons in Dynamis (Axe, and Great Katana). I'm 98% sure you can get points in Dynamis. If it turns out I'm wrong about this I'll be extremely surprised.


Your 2% wins in this case. In order to receive points, a mob must award xp immediately upon defeat. Dynamis and Campaign mobs do not reward xp immediately upon defeat so there must have been some mistake in how you've broken a latent in Dynamis, since it's impossible save for some sort of glitch.
#16 Sep 20 2008 at 6:22 AM Rating: Good
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OK and I do know about the EP and above rule but am extremely surprised. I was there and believe you. It also makes sense as I don't recall obtaining xp off of Dynamis mobs.


Now I'm very curious how I broke those two weapons. If this was done outside of Dynamis then chalk it up to an old man's poor memory.
#17 Sep 20 2008 at 6:44 AM Rating: Excellent
Mikhalia wrote:
In order to receive points, a mob must award xp immediately upon defeat. Dynamis and Campaign mobs do not reward xp immediately upon defeat so there must have been some mistake in how you've broken a latent in Dynamis, since it's impossible save for some sort of glitch.


But, but... Besieged!
#18 Sep 20 2008 at 7:41 AM Rating: Good
Solrain wrote:
Mikhalia wrote:
In order to receive points, a mob must award xp immediately upon defeat. Dynamis and Campaign mobs do not reward xp immediately upon defeat so there must have been some mistake in how you've broken a latent in Dynamis, since it's impossible save for some sort of glitch.


But, but... Besieged!


I've never tried to break a latent in Besieged so I don't know if it works or not. If it does, I have to chalk it up to the oddity of Besieged. After all, you can skillup in Besieged too.
#19 Sep 20 2008 at 8:16 AM Rating: Good
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You can skillup in dynamis also
#20 Sep 21 2008 at 12:07 AM Rating: Decent
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souleman wrote:
You can skillup in dynamis also



ha, I knew I wasn't loosing my mind. In fact, I was beastmaster and broke my axe during Dynamis - Windurst. I'm pretty sure it was right in there. I was making a habit toward the end to constantly check the +element stats after every Rampage.
#21 Sep 21 2008 at 11:12 AM Rating: Good
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Ya I think it's just the fact that you are able to skill-up on the mob. But it is kinda nice to kno that weapons can be broken through Level Sync, was just getting on to post to ask if it did but I found this thread instead. ^^

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Of course gotta be exp worthy being EP+

Edited, Sep 21st 2008 1:08pm by Asyrian
#22 Sep 21 2008 at 12:24 PM Rating: Decent
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Mikhalia wrote:
Solrain wrote:
Mikhalia wrote:
In order to receive points, a mob must award xp immediately upon defeat. Dynamis and Campaign mobs do not reward xp immediately upon defeat so there must have been some mistake in how you've broken a latent in Dynamis, since it's impossible save for some sort of glitch.


But, but... Besieged!


I've never tried to break a latent in Besieged so I don't know if it works or not. If it does, I have to chalk it up to the oddity of Besieged. After all, you can skillup in Besieged too.


It does not, verified last night.
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