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#1 Jan 25 2006 at 7:34 PM Rating: Good
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There are many places where German will show up in FFXI. Whether it’s the armor you’re wearing or the item you’re holding. Some of you may already know what some of these translations are, but for those of you who are still wondering “What the heck does that mean?!” here’s a list and translations of some German words that show up in the game. I’ll start with the words that many people have heard of. Most of it is Paladin related, but here you go.

Words in German will show up in cyan.
Translations will be in italics and in red.
Words that do not exist in German will be in orange.
Words that are close to German words are in purple.
Some other info: das(neutral), die(feminine), der(masculine), die(plural)


Eisen: “Iron
Brust: “Breast” or “Chest
Schuhs: “Shoes
Kampf: “Combat
Handschuhs: “Gloves
Kaiser: “Emperor
Koenig: “King
Geist: “Apparition” or “Ghost
Zweihander: “Two hander
Ritter: “Knight
Blau Dolch: "Blue Dagger"
Schaller: "Stream-Lined Helmut"
Orange Kuchen: "Orange Cake"
Kriegsbeil: "War Axe{/red]"
[cyan]Kronprinz Behemoth: "Crown Prince Behemoth"
Kaiser: "Emperor Behemoth"


When we combine some of these words together we get things such as:

Eisenbrust: “Iron Chest
Kampfbrust: “Combat Chest
Eisenschuhs: “Iron Shoes
Kampfschuhs: “Combat Shoes
Koenig Handschuhs: “King Gloves
Kaiser Handschuhs: “Emperor Gloves
Koenig Cuirass: “King Cuirass
Kaiser Cuirass: “Emperor Cuirass
Ritter Shield: “Knight Shield
Koenig Shield: “King Shield
Kaiser Shield: “Emperor Shield
Koenig Belt: “King Belt
Koenig Knuckles: “King Knuckles

And so on.


Some words from the game do not exist in German. At least to my knowledge as German goes.

For the head piece of the “Eisen, Kampf, Koenig, and Kaiser” armor sets it is called a “Schaller.” “Schaller” to my knowledge is not a word in German. A similar word to “Schaller” in German is “die Schale”. This translates to a bowl, dish, or shell in German among other things. Another word that I could not recognize is “Diechlings.” Also some of you may be wondering what “Eisen” or “Kampfhentzes” is. Well “Hentzes” is also not a word in German. I don’t think it can be even said in German. If you could it’d be very hard.

There is also another two items one called “Kaiserin Cosmetics”, and the other “Set of “Kaiserin Cosmetics.” Now we can assume “Kaiserin” means female emperor. From examples such as “Lehrerin” and “Schulerin”. Which mean female teacher and female student in German. Also the word ““Schuhs” technically is not German for shoes. I let that one slide because the actual word for shoes is “die Schuhe”. Although “Schuhe” is the plural form. Shoe in German in the singular form is “der Schuh.” This same change also goes for Handschuhs as well.

I feel it was very creative of SE to make a play of German words to make up their own for certain conditions. Such as “Hentzes” and “Diechlings” they do seem like they would be German words, but in reality they do not exist. Those are all of the German words I could find in game. If you know of any other words in FFXI that you think might be German post it here and I’ll try to update as often as I can.

Edited, Thu Jan 26 20:35:38 2006 by Deuciont
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#2 Jan 25 2006 at 7:37 PM Rating: Decent
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#3 Jan 25 2006 at 7:37 PM Rating: Decent
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Hmmm.. Thanks. I finally know what all mhy PLD gear means.
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#4 Jan 25 2006 at 8:01 PM Rating: Decent
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Not quite so, check out the following:

Durch die Erhöhung der Durchschlagskraft von Armbrust und Bogen bildete der vermutlich aus dem ungarischen Raum stammende Plattenrock ebenso eine rüstungstechnische Neuerung, wie die in der Minneepik bereits um 1240 gemeinsam mit dem Ritterdolch erwähnten gepolsterten Oberschenkelröhren (Diechlinge)zum Schutz der Oberschenkel. Kaum sichtbar unter dem Waffenrock oder anstelle dieses getragen, sorgt der Plattenrock über dem Panzerhemd für zusätzlichen Schutz. Dabei wurde eine Reihe von Eisenplatten an der Innenseite eines Leinen- oder Lederüberwurfes bzw. einer Kombination aus beidem genietet, sodass lediglich die Nietenköpfe an der Außenseite sichtbar waren. Neben den Diechlingen traten gegen 1250 zudem bereits vereinzelt Arm- bzw. Beinschienen aus gehärtetem Leder oder Eisen hinzu. Unter dem Topfhelm trägt der dargestellte Ritter bereits eine vom Panzerhemd getrennte und lediglich aus dem deutschen Raum bekannte Kettenhaube mit rechteckigem Brust- und Rückenlatz, eine Frühform der Beckenhaube und Ailettes. Als Sekundärbewaffung dient ein Dolch.

Oh yeah... Blau Dolch, sallet, ledelsen, sabot, solleret, whole ton more of medieval German gear in the game...






Edited, Wed Jan 25 20:24:27 2006 by CRJR
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#5 Jan 25 2006 at 8:12 PM Rating: Decent
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SE's translations aren't always the sharpest.


Last year's new years event, the New Years Gift came in different languages.


The spanish one said "¡Feliz Ano Nuevo!".



I left the tilde off on purpose. They didn't.
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Kampf: “Combat
Geist: “Apparition” or “Ghost

I've spent my time learning German myself, and while those translations are correct, can't Kampf also mean "Battle" (as in Adolf Hitler's "Mein Kampf" (litterally, "My Battle" or "My Struggle")? I believe it is just a different way of interpreting it, as "combat" and "battle" are very similar. As for Geist, I believe it can also mean "Spirit", but that goes along with your original translation. Just another way to say it.

Correct me if I'm wrong. ^^; Even still, very good post.
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TrueFeba wrote:
SE's translations aren't always the sharpest.


Last year's new years event, the New Years Gift came in different languages.


The spanish one said "¡Feliz Ano Nuevo!".



I left the tilde off on purpose. They didn't.


Oh dear...

...

Oh dear...

XD!!!!
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BlackRagnarok wrote:
Kampf: “Combat
Geist: “Apparition” or “Ghost

I've spent my time learning German myself, and while those translations are correct, can't Kampf also mean "Battle" (as in Adolf Hitler's "Mein Kampf" (litterally, "My Battle" or "My Struggle")? I believe it is just a different way of interpreting it, as "combat" and "battle" are very similar.

Correct me if I'm wrong. ^^; Even still, very good post.


No that is correct its just that I thought "combat" fit the context better for FFXI.

As to the Diechlinge I wasn't sure what it means. In the context I'm assuming its a noun, but I'll need to double check it first. I wasn't really sure so I checked a German-English dictionary and it wasn't in there.

Edit: Well I keep looking for the translation, but I'm having trouble finding it. Looked on the German version of Wikipedia and it gave me this:

Es existiert kein Artikel mit diesem Namen (In English: There is no article that exists with that name.)

Edited, Wed Jan 25 20:46:35 2006 by Deuciont
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#9 Jan 25 2006 at 9:01 PM Rating: Decent
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Hey, good post.

Some additions:

- a "Schaller" is a full helmet from late medieval times. It was very streamlined and often had a enlarged neck-part and also a visor. The lower part of the face was protected by an additional part of the armour, called "Bart" (beard).

- Medieval plate armours had most of the time bracers, which protected the upper and the lower arm and had built-in gloves. This gloves alone were calles "Henz" (or as a plural form "Henze", which is related to the word 'Hand' btw.), which is the origion of the Eisenhentzes. (tz and z have the same pronounciation in german).

- like CRJR posted, a "Diechling" was the iron tube which made up the upper part of the plate armours 'trouser leg'.

- the word "Zweihänder" is a 100% german word. SE just didn't use the Ä in their text. It means ... well ... two-handed-sword ^^ I just wonder why they didn't name it Zweihaender, after all they also replaced the ö in König with an oe, which is an older version to write this phoneme.

- Sabot, Ledelsen, Solleret are definitly not german words ...

- Kampf ... hm ... battle, struggle, fight, combat in certain terms also contest or match. Geist can also be 'mind' (and is used more often in that way), while the word ghost translates to 'Gespenst'.

- Gustaberg and Zulkheim sound german too, and the Drachenfall (Dragon's Fall) is a german-named landmark. Some of the NPC-Hume have germanlike names and I know from a NM called Baumesel (~ tree-donkey) and a weapon called Rosenbogen (Bow of Roses).

Edited, Wed Jan 25 21:05:23 2006 by Aralays
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Yes, actually they are, although spelling may differ. Did some research into 13th and 14th century German... these terms are in fact old German armor terms. Don't know how to prove that other than to say, check out Google, way deep in the bowels of armor sections. Unfortunately, my doctorate in German law had to do far more with modern antitrust and trade terminology, so did not learn too much about armor back then... Oh, and btw, my character's name, when I was starting out as a Rdm, was "Zaub"...



Edited, Wed Jan 25 21:46:09 2006 by CRJR
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Yeah those words are German only problem is I'd have to put the actual English definition since the English language basically just used those words directly.

Edit: Oh yeah about 45% of the English language has its roots from the German language.

Edited, Wed Jan 25 23:51:40 2006 by Deuciont
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Fun thread^^ I, as a German, always find it rather amusing to see a piece of armor or an item that has a German name~
Btw, there's a food item called
Orange Kuchen which means Orange cake.
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Orange Kuchen .... gibts garnet hehe,der name erinnert mehr an was holländisches.
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Orange"n"kuchen gibt' schon ^_^
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Orange Kuchen ... ich wusste doch, ich hab was vergessen bei meiner Aufzählung. ><
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Added Schaller and Orange Kuchen.

I'll add some more when I have more time later today.
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Doch, doch, Oma hat immer OK gemacht... so wie Zitrone usw.
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Also, Kriegsbeil means Battle axe I think.
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Krieg = war
kampf = Fight/combat

so Kriegsbeil is Waraxe
and the WSNM for SAM i think is named Ketten beetle which would be Chain beetle or ironchain beetle.
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In Apolyon NW top floor, the mobs are Kronprinz (Crown Prince) Behemoth and Kaiser (Emperor) Behemoth.
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Just added three more that people posted. Keep'em coming.

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It kinda funny ... if I would ask someone I meet on the street 'what's a schaller?', most of the people would guess it were related to 'Schale' (well, it is kinda), but tonight when I talked to my roleplaying group about this thread, I got the correct definitions of Schaller, Diechling and Henze within three minutes, without them looking up an enzyclopedia.

Sometimes it's good to know LARP-people ;)
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Consider including Weaponskills and abilities like that of the Rdm AF3 Doll Panzerfaust (Rocket Propelled Grenade, circa WW2)

I know those dolls have some other ones as well. I thought it was pretty cool
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Consider including Weaponskills and abilities like that of the Rdm AF3 Doll Panzerfaust (Rocket Propelled Grenade, circa WW2)

I know those dolls have some other ones as well. I thought it was pretty cool


Exactly.

Panzer = Tank
Faust = Fist

so literally Tank-Fist.

Of course theres also a NM in sky named Faust.

Most if not all of the abilities that the NM dolls use are German-named. I remember one more offhand that used the word "Blitz" wich means "lightning".
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There's a rare/ex GA called Eisentaenzer. My GF is german and she told me it means Iron Dancer.
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There's also an attack called "Blitzstrahl" wich means "Lightning ray/beam/jet"

As a German the word "Schuhs" always amuses me in game :)
I guess they mean "Schuhe"...
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Thanks for all the irratating red in the OP, now I can go gouge my eyes out with a spoon to relieve the pain.
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Cool, lotsa translation notes. Here's my contribution. After I did the DRG quest, I went to Norg to pick my wyvern's name and noticed a few of the wyvern names were German/Deutsch. I looked up a few of them and picked the one I liked best.

Eisenzahn - Iron tooth
Himmelskralle - Sky claw
Waffenzahn - Weapon tooth
Blutkralle - Blood claw


Also, there's a handful of French names (presumably to pair up with San d'Orian characters) as well as Tarutaru male names (so it can be assumed that all wyverns are indeed male). All Tarutaru males have hyphenated names that rhyme somewhat, such as: Ajido-Marujido, Boizo-Naizo, Kohlo-Lakolo, Savul-Kivul, etc., whereas all Tarutaru females have names where the last two syllables are the same: Apururu, Shantotto, Chamama, Boronene, etc.). I noticed that in Windurst, but I'm not sure if that's true of non-Windurstian Tarutaru. ...btw, can someone tell me whether the Native American-like Galka names are Galkan in origin or not? One Galka in the Metalworks complains about young Galkas taking on Hume-given names, but ironically this Galka doesn't have one of those Native American-like names, which leads one to think that a Hume named that poor Galka in Bastok Markets "Lame Deer"... that, or former Galka is a hypocrite.

So if San d'Oria has French nomenclature, the Far East is where objects and characters of Japanese culture originate from, and the Near East is representative of the Middle East, then where does the German language originate from in the world of Vana'diel, anyway? Every now and then you'll run into a character or an item with a German name, but thus far there's no definite parallel in Vana'diel.
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SE's translations aren't always the sharpest.


Last year's new years event, the New Years Gift came in different languages.


The spanish one said "¡Feliz Ano Nuevo!".



I left the tilde off on purpose. They didn't.


To anyone who doesnt speak spanish at all:

Feliz: Happy
Ano (With the accent) year
Nuevo: Year
Ano (Without accent): ****


"Happy new **** from Square Enix!"
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Nice post.

I know 3 Germans who play FFXI, one of them is NIN 75.
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Vergessen Wir auch nicht unser liebstes WHM Wort: REGEN.
(Let us also not forget our favorite WHM word: Regen)

Regen = Rain
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and how about Great Axe WS: Sturmwind (windy storm)

coming from a displaced Austrian in Amerika, hihihi.

Pfirtie (Tschues in Austrian)

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Edited, Wed Apr 5 10:41:44 2006 by Riamondo
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searched a little, there are many more:

Helm - Helmet
Lindwurm skin - skin from the worm of the Linden tree
Degen - narrow sword
Schlaeger sword - Beater sword
Jagdplaute?? Hunt??
Drachenfall water - Dragon waterfall water
Valhala has german origin
Gustav tunnel
Crushed Krause NM in Gusgen
Flayer Franz
Reinberta - guildmaster
Karine and Ludwig - Mapdealers
Brunhilde - Merchant
Dietmund - Quest giver
Sieglinde - Recipe giver

LOL, all tapped out now.

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You all remember the "Jaeger Mantle" (now Jaguar mantle) and the "Panzer mask" (now Panther mask)? Jaeger (or original "Jäger") means "hunter" and I guess you know the word Panzer.
I think though, that "Regen" does not refer to the german word for "rain" but is just an abbreviation for "regeneration".

Also some Doll abilites (Panzerfaust and Panzerschreck) are names of german WWII anti-tank weapons.
I'm still not sure if the trigger-NM "Faust" just refers to "fist" or if it is an allusion to Goethe's "Faust".

Gibts sonst noch irgendwelche Fragen? ^^


edit:// Oh, and don't forget things like "Ridill". In germanic mythology, Ridil (yes, just one "L") was the sword the dwarf "Regin" cut out his brother's heart. His brother was killed by Sigurd (or Siegfried) after he turned into a dragon. This dragon was Fafnir. And there are other mobs that have their roots in (germanic) mythology. e.g. "Nidhöggr" or "Jörmungandr"

edit2:// Not to forget the well known "Kraken-Club".
Kraken = Octopus

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Bei dem "Lindwurm" liegst du leider ein bisschen falsch, Riamondo. ^^

The one thing that the "Lindwurm" (lindworm, lindorm) and the "linden tree" have in common is the fact that the root "lind" is an old word for "bendable, soft, agile, tough". So both are exactly that, the tree as well as the Lindwurm.
"Wurm" is not "worm" in it its modern sense in this case though but originates in an old meaning of "Wurm" which is "snake, dragon". So the "Lindwurm" is an "agile snake/dragon".

@Deuciont
Why orange for the "Kaiserin"? It is a valid standard German word and as you rightly say the female version of "Kaiser". ^^
The Austrian Empress Elisabeth (1837 - 1898) being one example for an actual Kaiserin.

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Vergessen Wir auch nicht unser liebstes WHM Wort: REGEN.
(Let us also not forget our favorite WHM word: Regen)

Regen = Rain
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Actually I'm pretty sure "regen" is shorthand for "regenerate", dating back to size restrictions on spell names ("aspir" for "aspirate", etc.) This was mostly to save space in the older console games.
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