How to test for a new avatar.Follow

All this buzz about new avatar for SMN. It's great and exciting, sure, but how and when will we know?

Simple. Open up the universal translator and select [Avatars] from the list. This shows you all avatars in the game currently. You'd better believe that I open that list after every update. Until a name shows up there, I'm going to assume that it/they have not been implemented yet.

Well, rats.

Good idea #751 down the tubes.

Thanks for the info.

Stunted Defender of Justice wrote:

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All this buzz about new avatar for SMN. It's great and exciting, sure, but how and when will we know?

Simple. Open up the universal translator and select [Avatars] from the list. This shows you all avatars in the game currently. You'd better believe that I open that list after every update. Until a name shows up there, I'm going to assume that it/they have not been implemented yet.

Actually, I'm betting that this won't work.

If you start a new character, you will find that you CANNOT use area names in the tranlator until you visit them at least once. This is the same for items...you need to have, or see one before it's available in the translator.

Now, granted, it appears it also shows up in the translator if someone else uses it in a chat mode that you can see...but if no one has the Summon yet...then no one will have it in their translator in the first place.

Bottom Line: You can't trust the translator for anything, because it works on a "you can translate it only if you've seen it" method. The most reliable method would be to dig into the .dat files of the expansions.

I'd have to guess that IF there is a new summon, it would be from something like Absolute Virtue or something insanely difficult.

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Stunted Defender of Justice wrote:

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All this buzz about new avatar for SMN. It's great and exciting, sure, but how and when will we know?

Simple. Open up the universal translator and select [Avatars] from the list. This shows you all avatars in the game currently. You'd better believe that I open that list after every update. Until a name shows up there, I'm going to assume that it/they have not been implemented yet.

Actually, I'm betting that this won't work.

If you start a new character, you will find that you CANNOT use area names in the tranlator until you visit them at least once. This is the same for items...you need to have, or see one before it's available in the translator.

Now, granted, it appears it also shows up in the translator if someone else uses it in a chat mode that you can see...but if no one has the Summon yet...then no one will have it in their translator in the first place.

Bottom Line: You can't trust the translator for anything, because it works on a "you can translate it only if you've seen it" method. The most reliable method would be to dig into the .dat files of the expansions.

I'd have to guess that IF there is a new summon, it would be from something like Absolute Virtue or something insanely difficult.

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Actually, not entirely true- last night I was playing with my new level 1 character in Windy, and I was able to type {Rolanberry Fields} without ever having seen someone use in previously in the translator or having been there. Somethings are programmed in already.

Now you can't SEARCH an area you haven't visited yet, that is true. Tried last night and wasn't showing up on my list/ giving me 0 people found in that area. XD

That's not right. You can search any area in the game, you just have to type the /sea area-name correctly. Strange examples are:

Den of Rancor = RancorDen
Ifrit's Cauldron = IfrCauld
etc.

You cant use the Auto translator for /sea (in most cases). "/sea {Garlaige Citadel}" will not work, you need to do "/sea garlaige"

Best bet is to do a search for someone you know is currently in the area. Then check the name of the area on the search list.

Using the Tab-Key is a lower form of Autotranslate. The Tab-Key only accesses recent items and terms. You can access everything in the Autotranslator by going through the menu (press tab with an empty chat line), at any time in your career as a FFXI player. The only thing that will change is what is in your list of "Items" and "Key Items". In the Key Items list, you can find all the key items you own at the moment (except maps >< ). In the Items list, you can find all the items you own at the moment, including items you have seen recently.

/recast is a bit different. It shows you what is currently programmed into the game (things like "Quake II", and "Thundaga IV") Those only exist because somewhere, there is already a mob ingame which uses those spells. (High lvl yags use Utsusemi:San for example). "/recast Bahamut" doesn't work, but that doesn't mean it won't be implemented. It simply means the code for that summon has not been introduced.

Items are the only thing(to my knowledge) you have to actually have seen, on the AH or on someone, to auto translate. Areas you have to actually visit to search them, even if you type in the abbrv.

Won't work unless you've been there before. Also, you can just put the full area name in quotes and it works fine.

/sea area "Castle Oztroja"

Correct me if I'm wrong but if I remember there are some things in auto-translator that you can test however you cannot list.

I think {Comet}, {Bahamut}, and {Odin} are already in there. There's others however I can't recall any right now. It HAS been a long time since I've attempted to try this out so they may have changed it or removed it....or i could be blatently wrong here since it's been a long work day for me today.

Don't the new mobs in Sea kind of look like Quetzacotl from FFVIII? :)

it's /sea "(Garlaige Citadel)"

I'll stick to the patch/update release notes.

I doubt they'll add a new avatar and not mention it in the notes.

QFT. I'm gonna go home and /recast Alexander /recast Odin /recast Sylph etc until I hit paydirt.

Just because you can check recast doesn't mean it will ever be implemented for players. Do a recast for tier II ancient magic, or -ga V spells, or meteor, or Ustsusemi: San. These are all spells that are currently in the game and are currently used by NPCs, but will probably not ever be given to PCs.

It stands to reason that even if they add a new summon and it can be verified via /recast, that doesn't necessarily mean that we will be able to use it. And honestly, doesn't that sound like an SE kinda thing to do?

NEW SUMMONS!!!
[sm]But not for you, lollerskates![/sm]

Edited, Fri Nov 18 19:33:43 2005 by lauplebaud