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#1 Mar 21 2015 at 1:37 PM Rating: Decent
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It seems strange to me that they are planning to nerf THF weaponskills and then announce a few days later they are effectively dropping the game in 8 - 12 months time. They said they will still make quality of life adjustments, so just release the last content and leave the rest. Are there multiple teams at work here making decisions independently of the rest ?
#2 Mar 21 2015 at 2:21 PM Rating: Good
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They aren't "dropping the game." PS2 and Xbox360 support is ending. That's all.
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#3 Mar 22 2015 at 2:15 PM Rating: Decent
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Really ? no content after November. Although it will continue on PC it looks like they are handing it off to the Koreans for tablet/cellphone optimization. I could be wrong but it sounds like its moving towards F2P. Regardless of what platforms it does or doesn't continue on, my question was more about why nerf stuff when you are winding it down
#4 Mar 23 2015 at 2:23 AM Rating: Good
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They aren't "dropping the game." PS2 and Xbox360 support is ending. That's all.


So apparently, no new content after 2015 isn't very significant to you?
#6 Mar 24 2015 at 8:39 AM Rating: Good
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For the record, they said no new "major" content. Whatever that means.

I could still see them adding quests, and HTBF stuff (that doesn't seem like major content). Expanding events like Delve or Skirmish also doesn't seem like it would fall under "major" content. The structure is already there, there would be nothing "new" in terms of content.
#7 Mar 24 2015 at 8:48 AM Rating: Decent
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They said their focus from 2016 on is going to be on balance adjustments and bug fixes. I wouldn't hold my breath for anything like what you said.
#8 Mar 24 2015 at 7:21 PM Rating: Good
Given how much stuff we've already gotten that I wouldn't have expected, more content of some kind after that date wouldn't surprise me either.

In any case, as far as the OP's question is concerned, given the part where they said they'll continue to do balance adjustments even after they stop doing major content releases, them doing balance adjustments right now (when there are still major content releases to come) seems like the least surprising thing in the world.

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#9 Mar 24 2015 at 10:08 PM Rating: Default
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They aren't "dropping the game." PS2 and Xbox360 support is ending. That's all.


So apparently, no new content after 2015 isn't very significant to you?


They didn't say that though. They said FFXI's Main Scenario will be drawing to a close and that there is no planed content updates to it planned following the final release of the last chapter in November.

This of course does not mean there will be no new content. They can add tons of battle content that is not related to the storyline of FFXI in any way at all, they can release a lot of activities that do not relate to FFXIs story in any way at all.

That being said....it is SE and I am skeptical that anything will be added past 2015, and I am also skeptical that the things added in 2015 will be of any real consequence to the game either. But they have not stated there will never be a content update again...just no more story related stuff.
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#10 Mar 25 2015 at 3:17 AM Rating: Decent
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They didn't say that though. They said FFXI's Main Scenario will be drawing to a close and that there is no planed content updates to it planned following the final release of the last chapter in November.

This of course does not mean there will be no new content. They can add tons of battle content that is not related to the storyline of FFXI


To me, these kinda fall under the same boat

This kinda reminds me of the people who were all like "oh good, they're dropping consoles finally, that means we're totally getting FFXI HD soon like we've been asking for for years now!" and I'm just sitting here like... yeah, keep dreaming, kiddo.
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"FINAL FANTASY XI's major version updates will conclude with the implementation of the final chapter of Rhapsodies of Vana'diel, but there will continue to be minor version updates that address bugs and contain various balance adjustments"

So technically this will be the last new content Period.
#12 Mar 25 2015 at 7:20 AM Rating: Good
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You know when this question will get answered? When they either [a] add some new content, or [b] don't add some new content. Trying to dissect the language they used during the announcement to predict the future is a waste of energy. Even if they spelled out every single contingency, they could still easily change their minds over the next 6 months because nothing is set in stone until it actually happens. Especially where SE is concerned. Trying to predict the future is just a bunch of mental *************
#13 Mar 25 2015 at 12:26 PM Rating: Good
Especially since they could change their minds.
#14 Mar 25 2015 at 5:29 PM Rating: Default
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Like they should change their mind about dropping consoles.
#15 Mar 27 2015 at 8:50 PM Rating: Good
In a way, that seems pretty weird. The main argument for dropping console support all along has been "It'll make it easier to make new content/upgrade the game/etc".

The date they've set for dropping console support? Months after when they've said they're planning to have the last major content release. Then what's the point of dropping console support at all? I'm not clear on what they get out of it in this case.

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#16 Mar 27 2015 at 9:21 PM Rating: Decent
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AFAIK they are doing it because Sony/Microsoft are wanting to drop support for their older platforms, not really because Squeenix wants to. I don't really know all the backroom logistics behind it though.
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AFAIK they are doing it because Sony/Microsoft are wanting to drop support for their older platforms, not really because Squeenix wants to. I don't really know all the backroom logistics behind it though.


This.

Sony and Microsoft have been actively purging online support for games from their respective consoles since 2010. IIRC Microsoft actually discontinued support for all Xbox games even if they were playable on the 360 in 2010 or 2011 and removing support for older Xbox 360 content since around the same time. Sony has been less over the top, but have been reducing their playable games from PS2, PSP since 2009.

Chances are both Hardware developers have told SE that FFXI's support is going to be dropped....or SE is just doing it because it is going to happen eventually and it fits with their planned timeline.



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#18 Mar 27 2015 at 10:13 PM Rating: Decent
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Fynlar wrote:
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They aren't "dropping the game." PS2 and Xbox360 support is ending. That's all.


So apparently, no new content after 2015 isn't very significant to you?


No new content is not really the same thing as "dropping the game." Right now it seems like half the community thinks "no new content" means the servers won't still be running this time next year.
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#19 Mar 28 2015 at 1:17 AM Rating: Decent
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No new content is not really the same thing as "dropping the game." Right now it seems like half the community thinks "no new content" means the servers won't still be running this time next year.


I never said that. I merely said that they are doing much more than just dropping ps2 and xbox support, unlike what you indicated in your post.
#20 Jun 22 2015 at 7:37 AM Rating: Good
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To me, these kinda fall under the same boat

This kinda reminds me of the people who were all like "oh good, they're dropping consoles finally, that means we're totally getting FFXI HD soon like we've been asking for for years now!" and I'm just sitting here like... yeah, keep dreaming, kiddo.


Have to agree. I was searching for performance hacks when I found out that any attempt to improve framerate or data transfer would seriously compromise the client. So sorry Charlie.

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#21 Jun 25 2015 at 7:03 AM Rating: Decent
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They aren't "dropping the game." PS2 and Xbox360 support is ending. That's all.


No your right they are not dropping the game "At the moment" but this does signify a big step towards pulling the plug or even F2P. Even though they stated that wouldn't be the case, it's safe to safe SE change their minds just like they did with FF7.

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They aren't "dropping the game." PS2 and Xbox360 support is ending. That's all.


So apparently, no new content after 2015 isn't very significant to you?

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For the record, they said no new "major" content. Whatever that means.
I could still see them adding quests, and HTBF stuff (that doesn't seem like major content). Expanding events like Delve or Skirmish also doesn't seem like it would fall under "major" content. The structure is already there, there would be nothing "new" in terms of content.


Let's be specific what's classed as major content - look at all the big updates since XI was released. Every major list that had a lot of content from small to big.
That's major content: New jobs, avatars, story, gear sets, NMs, new systems, new areas.

Effectively only bug fixes and tweaks is considered to be coming, I will be surprised if SE ever released anything "New to XI". What SE is doing is cutting the developers team to one. That means a single salary to consider who can fix the basics.
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