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#1 Oct 14 2014 at 6:35 PM Rating: Good
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Edit:

The below is my post when I thought I was unable to return to FFXI. I still mean all the sweet and nice things within it, and it's still an issue SE needs to deal with.. but yea, GlobalConnect is like Honey Badger. It don't give a ****.

So yea, Pawky isn't dead no more.


First, my explanation, in video form.


I haven't been in these forums in forever, primarily because I left FFXI when my credit card was cancelled during the time the info got stolen. I just never re-upped because I was no longer able to keep up with the progression grind. I was also more interested in playing FFXIV with my fiancee. She never really got into XI.

It's insane to think that I spent nearly 6 years playing pretty much solely FFXI, with rare deviations. In my final 4 years, my playtime gradually ran down, spiking back up when they introduced Abyssea. I have had so many friends, and so many fun nights on this game. And while I would never be able to capture that same feeling again by going back, it was always comforting that I could.

I will miss wandering the zones, hunting NM's. I will miss sitting in Sky, marveling at its design. I'll miss seeing the insane shouts that sometime crop up. I'll even miss my spinning little moogle.

I long to see my little house again, with all my trinkets and toys gathered from years of play. I miss even the vacant friend list I have, with names that haven't logged on in years. I wish I could go into the field once more as my Beastmaster. Or as my Dancer.

I didn't want it to end this way. I would have preferred to be there when the servers went dark. I was there near the beginning, I would have loved to be there at the end.

I know here on Zam I have friends and enemies. I have contributed, trolled, mocked and joked with many of you. And while I will bet that many of those whom I knew in my infancy here are gone, there are likely a few steadfast fixtures lurking around.

To those whom I met through here, thank you for your friendship. If this is truly the end, and I can find no other solution to resurrect my account, then this will be my final set of posts here at the XI boards. I don't often come to Zam anymore, just not much of a forum lurker/dweller as I used to be. It could likely mean my time here is done too. But then OoT exists, or at least I think it does.

To those whom I have never met, I wish you well in the game. I do not hate XI, I don't even truly hate SE. I'm just terribly sad that this is how my time ends.

And to all of you, treasure your moments in game. Some may say it's sad to enjoy a video game that much, but truly XI has been, and continues to be, a social game. Sure, you are able to do more with fewer, but having friends makes the game that much better.

With that, I withdraw for now, and hope that somehow this is not the end of me.

Edited, Oct 15th 2014 4:38pm by Pawkeshup

Edited, Oct 15th 2014 4:40pm by Pawkeshup
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#2 Oct 14 2014 at 9:17 PM Rating: Good
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Awww...

That sucks....

I was away from FFXI too, for about 3 years. During that 3 years, I was away one, subbed up for a few months, then quit again for another 1.5 or so years.

Resubbed in March, and I was like so lost on where what was on my characters. Remembered my way through most of the game's areas, remembered how to do most of the stuff, and had huge blasts of nostalgia, everything from graphics to sound effects of certain spells I used to hear all the time.

Nowadays, I'm going somewhat strong again.

For the OP: I hope sometime you get that issue sorted out, though it is sadly unlikely. I don't get why SE has such rigid policies and this "NO EXCEPTION!" attitude towards things like people changing where they live, and/or why it is so difficult to do anything with accounts whatsoever at all. It seems to me they should be trying to welcome as many players as they possibly can, instead of turning their backs on people who WANT to pay up.
#3 Oct 15 2014 at 10:19 AM Rating: Excellent
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For those with payment problems; I understand they might be adding paypal directly to the system (Re: From XIV board but it is relevant.)

I'm calling tech support right now to confirm that.

Me, I am proly going to go to XIV in a month myself, and let my brother have the account (there will be some crysta left; I felt I owed him that). Most of my friends are now in XIV; I have a little core group that I've been doing Seekers missions with; I want to see the end of that. I mean to keep my cooking guide as up to date as possible and make sure I finish testing the kits before that happens; hopefully I can with FFXI AH and stuff since yes, I care. ^^

As for you, I do hope you can get the issues sorted out. Having that happen always sucks the big one, no matter who it happens to.

[Edit]Quoting from what I put on BG: (Elizara is my username over there)

Elizara wrote:
[Edit] Okay, that's relevant(and proly true), but tech lady said to watch the Lodestone and also the FFXI front page for the official announcement for when they finish getting it working.

[Edit 2] Okay, XI version of Camate's post: Here. For those that don't want to click links:
Camate wrote:

Hello, everyone.

We definitely understand the frustration that certain customers are unable to pay for their subscriptions due to the removal of the PlaySpan payment option – specifically those customers who used Ultimate Game Cards and PayPal.

At the moment, we are working on implementing a PayPal payment option and we hope to have this up and running soon. In the meantime, if you do encounter errors when attempting to register your credit card please contact our Support Center for assistance.

I apologize for the inconvenience in the meantime, but rest assured that we are doing our best to provide a payment solution for everyone.




Edited, Oct 15th 2014 1:10pm by maryadavies
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#4 Oct 15 2014 at 1:29 PM Rating: Good
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Damn, I wish I could post there. Looks like they are of more help than FFXIV's official forums. But since my account is inactive, I can't. Bleh.

PS: They didn't let me do squat when I called, so I'm pretty sure the community rep and their call center aren't on the same page.

Edited, Oct 15th 2014 3:30pm by Pawkeshup
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#5 Oct 15 2014 at 1:33 PM Rating: Excellent
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Pawkeshup wrote:
****, I wish I could post there. Looks like they are of more help than FFXIV's official forums. But since my account is inactive, I can't. Bleh.

PS: They didn't let me do squat when I called, so I'm pretty sure the community rep and their call center aren't on the same page.



yeah the call centre is useless. Bout time Camate/anyone responded we have been posting about it for 2 weeks now.

Edited, Oct 15th 2014 12:33pm by Olorinus
#6 Oct 15 2014 at 2:13 PM Rating: Excellent
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I didn't check until some people started raising a STINK about it on BG. I was a little sad though that Playspan was just cut off. It took that long before the stink started erm...showing...off the official boards. I had thought they could leave playspan alone so you could direct buy crysta, but they just cut it off.

I had no problem reloading, but then my credit union debit card seems to work fine. I'd just gone though Playspan all this time b/c before my mom died she'd said she'd pay for it..I didn't want her anywhere near the account itself so the plan was to go with the cards. Unfortunately it never gelled..but I still used it. Until now..But I'm going to be switching Sq.Enix accounts to my personal one in about a month or so anyway and let brother have fun on FFXI..tho I don't know if he'll like the changes.

Edited, Oct 15th 2014 4:18pm by maryadavies
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#7 Oct 15 2014 at 2:38 PM Rating: Decent
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Well first, Playspan is at fault, not SE. Ultimate Pay decided to refocus, not them. So they bailed on SE, not the other way around, also... well, I'll let my post from the official forum just speak for... me...?

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So... yea...

I just had the most interesting conversation with a SE rep named Jordan R. I was prepared for a fight, to argue like Hysterior said. But, if you live in North America... you don't need to fight.

You see, I hadn't tried to change my card. The standard procedure for any credit check is to verify that the place requesting the funds has your address or other personal info. So, I had assumed that is how GlobalConnect worked. Also, from all the feedback from support, it seemed that yes, I needed someone in Canada to pay, and that my US card was worthless on my account.

Yea... not so much...

GlobalConnect is based on IP, not your account info. It doesn't care, so long as payment and IP match. Now, I know this won't help many people. You have to have a NA account for this to work, outside of there, I don't know who they use. It doesn't fix all the issues. I still don't know what will happen when I try to get a new authenticator, or use the virtual one. I am still not sure how it will work when I need to restore my account for any reason. But, yea... All because someone actually listened instead of copy-pasting a script, or telling me it's just not possible... I have my accounts back.

I wish I had better news. I wish they had let me change my country, and I think that's still a thing that needs to happen. But the news is, if you have a North American account, and have a North American payment method, you can pay. I am not sure if you opened your account in Japan, and then provided a Japanese payment method if it would allow it or not. I assume not, but then I'd have assumed (and did) that my US card wouldn't work on my Canadian account. Maybe... try... it?

Honestly, I am glad I was wrong, I don't care if I have egg on my face for not trying this sooner. At least it works.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/197446-The-inability-to-change-your-country-and-the-end-of-my-time-with-Square-Enix?p=2502467&posted=1#post2502467
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#8 Oct 15 2014 at 2:38 PM Rating: Decent
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Wow, gawd I love Zam... I haven't had a double post in.. geez so long :D

Edited, Oct 15th 2014 4:40pm by Pawkeshup
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#9 Oct 15 2014 at 3:13 PM Rating: Excellent
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Yay Pawkeshup! Glad to hear you got it fixed finally.

May that paypal come soon, I bet you are not the only one cursing about this POS business; some can't use their cards, so playspan was their only option.

I mean XIV has those time cards but we don't get nuffin >.<.

Edited, Oct 15th 2014 5:14pm by maryadavies
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#10 Oct 15 2014 at 4:30 PM Rating: Good
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Pawkeshup wrote:
Well first, Playspan is at fault, not SE. Ultimate Pay decided to refocus, not them. So they bailed on SE, not the other way around, also... well, I'll let my post from the official forum just speak for... me...?



I'm glad it got fixed.

I'd like to point out, however, that SE has known for months that playspan was cancelling UGCs, yet they dropped playspan without a plan, despite the fact they are still operating, just without UGCs. Ultimate pay didn't go away.

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PlaySpan will be discontinuing UltimatePoints (Upoints) later this year. As part of our business focus, we have decided to terminate our own branded virtual currency and focus on enabling and supporting our merchants branded in-game currencies.

https://site.ultimatepay.com/



AKA, they would have been happy to just sell crysta directly for SE. SE decided to blow up the whole thing. Probably as part of a brilliant plan to make more money by cutting out the middle man... except SE is TERRIBLE at payment/customer service stuff. So, as I've been saying all along, this is SE's fault. They decided to discontinue ultimate pay without a backup plan for folks whose CCs get rejected. There was no reason to cancel the whole thing without notice because a single ultimate pay option was discontinued.

They probably didn't tell people they were getting rid of ultimate pay altogether ahead of time (they didn't) because they didn't want to give playspan a cut of the profits from the crysta that people like me would have stockpiled in anticipation of future payment problems.




Edited, Oct 15th 2014 3:39pm by Olorinus
#11 Oct 15 2014 at 5:58 PM Rating: Decent
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YAY!

Welcome back, Pawke.

We probably don't really know each other all that well, but I do remember long long time ago seeing your posts around, and I'm glad you were able to come back.

Depending on how long ago you've played, I'm thinking that maybe you will enjoy your time in Vana'diel. I know I sure did when I rejoined in March. I'm having way more fun in Vana'diel these days than I ever had in the past.

Hope you enjoy your FFXI time!
#12 Oct 15 2014 at 10:36 PM Rating: Excellent
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Olorinus: That's what I thought. I saw that, and since I was using Playspan to buy crysta myself directly (As I hinted, when my mom was alive I'd wanted her to use that to get points for me so I could have a layer between her and the account so there wouldn't be a oops I deleted your charas; I just didn't bother going to the CC directly to buy crysta) and thought they'd not remove it.

Square just shot themselves in the foot, there. I hope we see the paypal option soon.
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#13 Oct 16 2014 at 7:33 AM Rating: Good
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Right, they would sell it, but then they would control the rate they charged as well. You see, before they were a trust-style company. You pay them for points, then purchase points for you, similar to how PayPal works. There was a fee for that interaction because, since you don't have your own card to use, they are charging you.

When they say "assist", they mean, "We now sell the currency, not you." Crysta would, in essence, be "owned" by UPay. They would set the rates and terms via a contract. Right now, SE still sells Crysta as well, something that would have to stop.

The reason for this is so they can mark up every currency so they make so many cents off of every dollar, and the terms they likely offered SE were ridiculous. Don't think they shut them down cold, they likely negotiated, but found the terms bad. UPay was always a stop-gap to begin with, and honestly I'd like to see time cards being offered somehow, though I know it's much harder with the variable fee you pay (maybe it's time to stop that...?).
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#14 Oct 16 2014 at 1:48 PM Rating: Good
Pawkeshup! I knew you. An old friend told me that they've been playing so I decided to reactivate my account. That led me back to these forums. Hi, old forums. :3
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