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#1 Sep 25 2014 at 12:19 AM Rating: Decent
Hi All,

I have been looking at returning to FFXI or FFXIV. I was wondering about a few points.

1- Are there linkshells open to low-level/returning players?
What I loved about FFXI was the community when I was playing. I only have jobs to lvl 37-ish (spent too much time switching jobs and BS to even hit 75 back then).

2- I know leveling has been made easier... but is it worth even trying with all my jobs so low level?

3- Is there a good job to get end level that isn't too expensive to gear (e.g. Mnk or Sam)... and not too many required subjobs?

4- (Not really related to this) Is Drk worth leveling? I love the job, but don't see much about it when I search.

5- Should I just look at FFXIV, and play that (only an option if the community is still nice and friendly).

Thanks for the help and advice.

Edited, Sep 25th 2014 2:50am by twin769
#2 Sep 25 2014 at 2:59 AM Rating: Excellent
1. Current gameplay mechanics minimize the need for those old school selective linkshells. You will likely be able to find a linkshell on any server that has a mix of veterans, newcomers, and returning players. End game content is usually instanced (such as entering a battlefield) or pop-based. The days of camping against 250 others for Fafnir or whatever HNM you choose died out a few years back. I find the vast majority of linkshells are social.

2. All jobs are incredibly easy to level for multiple reasons -- be it mage or melee. Even as a bard main you can DD your way through to 99 if you prefer. Look up "Trusts" for more information. However, once you reach higher levels there are more efficient ways of leveling quickly such as Abyssea. The amount of changes to the game are way too complex to be summarized in this response but you will easily encounter people in game willing to point you in the right direction. It's not nearly as overwhelming as it seems initially. There is really no being left behind in terms of levels these days because it is so easy to level. Also look up Grounds of Valor and Fields of Valor in relation to super fast leveling.

3. All jobs are cheap to level (not including purchasing spells and the like). Ideally it would be best to level a melee job that does not use consumables. You can save up gil while leveling and eventually find your niche to make gil. You will level so quickly on mage jobs that I wouldn't recommend it to a returning player unless you are really fond of questing and finding means to make gil early-on. There are various cheap options to gear yourself.

First of all, you will level so quickly and easily that you will outlevel your gear within the span of a few hours in one session. For this reason, many players including myself see gear as *nearly* pointless at early levels. The AH has a combination of a dearth of choice (due to people having no interest in listing low level armor and weapons) but also a surplus in terms of low level armor and weapons that are used for crafting, etc. It is normal for example, to find some level 20 gear, do some leveling, and not find any gear worth your while until you reach 50 or so. Additionally your Trust NPC's will make up for your shortcomings. It is important to note even if you desperately want to "do it right" you may not be able to due to AH constraints and not yet having sufficient craft level.

You will level so quickly that you may choose to level your "subjobs" to 49 or so. You need to experience it for yourself to realize just how easy it will be to level your subjobs to the appropriate level for your mains.

4. Level up all jobs you enjoy and want to play. As emphasized, it is so easy to level them now. I might also add here that Records of Eminence allows you to easily obtain iLV 117 gear without hurting your wallet. This gear is more than good enough to see you through "catch up" content such as CoP missions and the like which are now all more-or-less solo-able. For a lot of the high level content the herd mentality prefers PLD's, well-geared MNK's, RNG's, and BRD's. However it should be easy enough to find friends who will try high tier content with any job you choose. I don't really see anyone playing DRK hardcore these days, but that's just my personal experience. Another job which hasn't gotten much love from SE lately is NIN. Hopefully a main DRK will have more to say on this.

5. I left FFXI for a while to play FFXIV. I lost interest really quickly. I feel it doesn't bring people together socially the way FFXI does. However, the recent changes to FFXI seem to be an attempt to make it play like FFXIV. I recommend just trying it for a month to see what you think of the changes. While I'm not economist, the fact that the game is more than a decade old and that it is still $12.95/month means it is cheaper to play than ever after factoring inflation. You don't even need to buy an expansion pack to enjoy the fields/grounds of valor content and the like, so I think with just about 2-3 weeks of gameplay you will have made up your mind quickly.
#3 Sep 25 2014 at 3:26 AM Rating: Good
Wow, thanks. I will definitely give it a try (just getting it updated now). Thanks for the great, and detailed answers :)
#4 Sep 25 2014 at 10:52 AM Rating: Good
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twin769 wrote:
Wow, thanks. I will definitely give it a try (just getting it updated now). Thanks for the great, and detailed answers :)


Which server you on? Let us know as someone might be able to offer you a social shell to get you started. The above poster is pretty much on the money. One thing to note though is most spellcasters are pretty cheap to level these days too. They added new ways to get most of the worst/annoying spells and the only expensive ones left are the quested ones... which you can just do the quests for.

I hope you enjoy.
#5 Sep 25 2014 at 12:22 PM Rating: Decent
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However it should be easy enough to find friends who will try high tier content with any job you choose.


This is my problem. I can't access Oboro (NPC in Port Jeuno next to Qufim) to get JSE/Empyrean WS because I have nobody to do the difficult content with. Apparently it's so hard that everyone would want a mostly ideal setup for it.

At least that's the crap most people are feeding me. If that's really true, it's pretty frustrating. My only major gripe for coming back, though.

Edited, Sep 25th 2014 2:23pm by Zafire
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#6 Sep 25 2014 at 1:13 PM Rating: Good
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Difficult fights are pretty easy. The 20 SKS kindred spirits fight is really easy if you bring a decent whm and pld. DDs don't really matter but I went on blu and even on that difficulty I was able to stun lock them while the pld held the smn. Fight the smn last and have the whm Sacrosanctity before engaging if it hasn't used astral flow before the dds get to it. We did the first orb with rdm, blu, pld, sam, thf and even having the dds get wiped to the smn(lol we forgot about astral flow) the pld had already whittled it down to 50% we got back up and finished it weakened and still finished in 10 mins. Would have finished the orbs with that set up but the rdm got hit with Comcast revenge and had to be replaced.

The emyrean WS is a whole other matter you only need to get the -1 from the chest next to the moggle that handles the trials of Magians trade the items he ask(all pretty cheap now) for or have a 90 empy already to unlock the WS. The JSE weapons are hit or miss. Some are good others ok and some flat out suck. The blu sword is just horrible and only saving grace of it is it's item level, otherwise it's not worth the gil investment.
#7 Sep 26 2014 at 1:50 AM Rating: Good
Thanks everyone. I am on Sylph. My main character is Victarian.
#8 Sep 26 2014 at 2:39 PM Rating: Good
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Zafire wrote:
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However it should be easy enough to find friends who will try high tier content with any job you choose.


This is my problem. I can't access Oboro (NPC in Port Jeuno next to Qufim) to get JSE/Empyrean WS because I have nobody to do the difficult content with. Apparently it's so hard that everyone would want a mostly ideal setup for it.

At least that's the **** most people are feeding me. If that's really true, it's pretty frustrating. My only major gripe for coming back, though.



They really aren't that hard - a couple well geared players should be able to carry a party on D for most of them. I'd say a 3 song brd and a pld with priwen and one 119 DD, a non brain dead whm... and then two lesser geared DDs would be a party that could clear them fine.

I mean, my whm is pretty much "cure bomb only" and I had no problems being whm on D

Edited, Sep 26th 2014 1:40pm by Olorinus
#9 Sep 26 2014 at 11:57 PM Rating: Decent
I have looked into some server populations and the like. It looks like Sylph has about 6k and Odin has about 11k.

Would it be worth it to create a new character on another server with more people? My current character has:
- All jobs other than the newest (rune master and whatever).
- A few jobs at 37 (one in the 40s)
- About 50k gold
- Rank 3

A bunch of gear, and the like (levelled a bunch of jobs).

My umsderstamd is leveling is easy these days, a new character may not be bad.

If it is a good idea to switch servers, what is a good one (Odin)?
#10 Sep 26 2014 at 11:57 PM Rating: Decent
Thanks for any help and feedback on this :)

Edited, Sep 27th 2014 1:59am by twin769
#11 Sep 29 2014 at 11:16 AM Rating: Good
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twin769 wrote:
I have looked into some server populations and the like. It looks like Sylph has about 6k and Odin has about 11k.

Would it be worth it to create a new character on another server with more people? My current character has:
- All jobs other than the newest (rune master and whatever).
- A few jobs at 37 (one in the 40s)
- About 50k gold
- Rank 3

A bunch of gear, and the like (levelled a bunch of jobs).

My umsderstamd is leveling is easy these days, a new character may not be bad.

If it is a good idea to switch servers, what is a good one (Odin)?


You can server transfer... keep all your stuff and your character.

#12 Oct 14 2014 at 1:17 AM Rating: Decent
Just started up again with a lv1 whm. Got to lv10 really quickly. Honestly I use to enjoy the slow leveling. I understand why but it changes the game so much for me. Not sure how enjoyable it is for me anymore.
#13 Oct 14 2014 at 5:36 AM Rating: Good
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Just continue thru, might find what you are looking for further down the line!
#14 Oct 15 2014 at 1:34 PM Rating: Good
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Haxod wrote:
Just started up again with a lv1 whm. Got to lv10 really quickly. Honestly I use to enjoy the slow leveling. I understand why but it changes the game so much for me. Not sure how enjoyable it is for me anymore.


Eh, don't worry it slows down around 30. You will spend lots of time leveling if you do it outside abyssea. Also, this game has PLENTY of very slow things you can do (missions/quests etc) - work on getting your airship pass and your khazam pass and you'll see what I mean.

One hint I'll give you - go start the geomantic waypoint quest in Jeuno (gardens) before you explore too much. That way when you come across them you can get the warps. There are lots of nifty ones.

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Researchers_from_the_West

Edited, Oct 15th 2014 12:36pm by Olorinus

Edited, Oct 15th 2014 12:38pm by Olorinus
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