Old BCNM75s do-able at 99?Follow

I'm curious about the old Lv75 "uncapped" BCNM fights.

I was giving thoughts of finishing the Black Belt (and of course getting other things in the process), and I was wondering if the old BCNM75 battles were uncapped, or if they are capped at 75 (thus impossible for me)?

Also, I don't suppose they removed the caps from earlier BCNMs along with removing the caps for the CoP mission fights, did they?

Edited, Aug 21st 2014 8:58pm by Lyrailis

So that means camping Nue, et. al. for the Brown Belt then, lol. I have the Purple, but not the brown and sadly the Brown Belt items are BCNM50. blah lol. But with ~800 players online at any given time and 90% of the active ones being in Adoulin, it is unlikely anybody else is after this stuff (esp the Morbol)..

Edited, Aug 21st 2014 9:20pm by Lyrailis

Kindred Seal BCNMs were never "capped" (as in, you could even buff/Meditate outside the battlefield and keep your buffs/TP upon going in) so yeah, they are still uncapped now, and generally easy wins at 99 (especially with IL gear). It's probably feasible now if you're really decked out to just power your way through the KS99 adamantoise's regen nowadays, but that was the one KSNM fight that still took some degree of effort pre-Adoulin. Not sure how it's like now.

ENMs on the other hand have all been level capped, meaning the previously "uncapped" ones still level cap you to 75.



The tiger fight is a 50x Beastmen Seals fight, not a KSNM. As such, yes, there is a level 50 cap.

Pop windows/conditions for most old world NMs were eased a long time ago though. Not sure if Nue was included, but he technically should qualify being as Beaucedine Glacier is a non-expansion zone. I would try camping him for a bit and see how you fare (and don't just go afk for an hour after killing him without a drop either; most of these NMs seem to be able to respawn again much sooner than 1 hour now)

Edited, Aug 22nd 2014 12:37am by Fynlar

Moborlger is something I tend to find up a lot in Ordelle's caves these days and since they added the waypoint there, it's even easier to check if it's up or not.
If you find it really difficult to get this guy then you have a really good chance after server maint and get the clear for your RoE at the same time.
(People don't seem to camp these the way they used to.)
Although it does sound fun revisiting those old BCNMs, you might want to hold on to those seals for the black belt bcnms to give yourself more chances at beastly shank ect.

Nue usually pops within 30 mins of killing PH for me and is also another RoE NM. (Maybe I'm just lucky I don't know.)

Deadly dodo was the NM that gave me trouble back in the day but then I was camping against another person who needed it for his trial weapon and didn't want to team up.

Dodging Extremely Bad Breath isn't that hard even as a melee, you just have to be already running before the move starts being readied (the 25% universal movement speed boost they implemented a while ago may help with this and not as much of a head start may be needed anymore).

If I remember this fight correctly, EBB starts getting used after you see the "Evil Oscar takes in the air around him etc etc" message three times. As his HP drops, the intervals between these messages shorten.

This is why you both go /SAM to Meditate up to 1200TP, sometimes the warnings that EBB is coming start very early on in the fight, you wouldn't need any defensive JA's as it'll whiff all over you and there is no defense to EBB. Start the fight doing your SC and it will most likely be dead, you could play it even safer and wait for Meditate to be ready for a 3rd time so you can pop it as soon as you have let off your first SC to finish off the Morbol with another WS or 2.

Other useful things - if pty is wiped it'll start regening (thf can flee/run off at first sign of EBB then kite, chances are you can both run off at normal run speed but I found you need to start running soon after the first warning to get out of the large range of EBB. Nothing wrong with a Thf making use of /SAM for specific purposes either, otherwise many ppl will say I'm over complicating an easy fight, its more that I'm just warning that EBB can come very early sometimes, other times the DoT alone from the pair of you would prob be enough to kill it without it going off.

Yes Diamondis, it is now 3000TP instead of 300, they made that change a couple updates back. Now instead of being able to weaponskill at 100 it is 1000. Everything got bumped up by a factor of 10 even the tp gain.

Most likely, yes. They figured writing it 1002TP is better than writing it 100.2 and if they just wrote 100 then the .2 is there but invisible.

What I WISH they would do, would be to include the . in Skills. For example... 92.1 Alchemy Skill or 423.8 Great Axe skill.

I really don't see why they don't; the numbers are clearly kept track of. Why not show them?

Basically the change was made so that "tenths" of TP is now visible.