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#1 Mar 20 2014 at 5:27 PM Rating: Good
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Did they ever fix this?

I remember reading that they added a Windowed Mode but simply put for some reason or another it simply did not work very well, nowhere near as well as the 3rd Party Option we're not supposed to talk about.

Did they ever improve upon it, so that said 3rd Party Option is no longer necessary?

I find myself lost and confused often and I'm trying to figure out a way I can access the internet while playing a game and I'd hate to have to do the whole "laptop at my side" thing. I don't want to download any 3rd party things, I'd rather do it legitimately if at all possible.
#2 Mar 20 2014 at 5:38 PM Rating: Good
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Apparently not.

Ick.

It causes the text to get all distorted and squished, and there's a lot of gamma issues.

All I wanted was a "Borderless Window" so I could "Fullscreen" it but it really be in a window so I could alt-tab freely.

Edited, Mar 20th 2014 7:39pm by Lyrailis
#3 Mar 20 2014 at 8:22 PM Rating: Excellent
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Just use Windower, they don't ban for it, never have. If you don't want to "cheat", disable the base addons and plugins.
#4 Mar 20 2014 at 10:55 PM Rating: Good
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If you run the FFXI Config utility, there should be an option to start in windowed mode. It doesn't do anything except let you play the game in a window, which sounds like what you want.

Also in the config utility, you can adjust the text size. Once you're back in FFXI proper, you can use the config menu off the main menu to adjust the aspect ratio.

Edited, Mar 21st 2014 12:57am by MouserRDM
#5 Mar 21 2014 at 12:03 AM Rating: Good
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MouserRDM wrote:
If you run the FFXI Config utility, there should be an option to start in windowed mode. It doesn't do anything except let you play the game in a window, which sounds like what you want.

Also in the config utility, you can adjust the text size. Once you're back in FFXI proper, you can use the config menu off the main menu to adjust the aspect ratio.

Edited, Mar 21st 2014 12:57am by MouserRDM
Windowed mode in the config is quite the disappointment, I prefer borderless window when I game as I like the game to take up the whole monitor but still be able to USE my second monitor for guides. While I could set it to window and hit full screen, this makes me take a hit in game performance and also I find the bar on the top of my screen distracting.
#6 Mar 21 2014 at 5:43 AM Rating: Good
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MouserRDM wrote:
If you run the FFXI Config utility, there should be an option to start in windowed mode. It doesn't do anything except let you play the game in a window, which sounds like what you want.

Also in the config utility, you can adjust the text size. Once you're back in FFXI proper, you can use the config menu off the main menu to adjust the aspect ratio.

Edited, Mar 21st 2014 12:57am by MouserRDM


I tried this.

What happened was, is the same thing that happens in the POL Viewer Window -- there's no way to force the game to a certain window size -- if it is off by a single pixel, it will distort the font noticeably and there's no option to set the Window Size while windowed.

And as mentioned earlier, there's no "Borderless Window" (which is basically Full Screen, but technically in a window that fills exactly the entire screen) option; the game will not let you drag the title bar off-screen to try and emulate borderless window yourself.

And trying to resize the window to get the "perfect" window size so that the font/graphics don't get all distorted is nearly impossible.

And also, the gamma issues -- everything was really dark in the official Windowed Mode.
#7 Mar 22 2014 at 2:24 AM Rating: Good
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Pretty sure you can do all of that stuff in Windower.
#8 Mar 22 2014 at 8:12 AM Rating: Excellent
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That's the mode I use all the time. I haven't noticed too bad a problem, but I may not be picky either.

I just maximize it and go. But yeah, it could be better and maybe if you're brave we can ask on the official boards for a fix.
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#9 Mar 22 2014 at 8:35 AM Rating: Good
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That's the mode I use all the time. I haven't noticed too bad a problem, but I may not be picky either.

I just maximize it and go. But yeah, it could be better and maybe if you're brave we can ask on the official boards for a fix.


It surely wouldn't be too hard for them to code a Borderless Window mode, because every other game I ever played has it, just about.

And maybe sometime I'll take a screenshot of what I mean by distorted text. It really bugs me for some reason, I don't know why. But until then, I guess I have no choice but to use that thing that must not be mentioned. *grumbles*

To SE, I'd say: I wouldn't use Windower if your windowed mode actually worked the way it needs to. Fix it and I wouldn't touch that 3rd party thing with a 50 foot pole. I don't need/want any of its addons, I *only* want Borderless Window so I can alt-tab freely.

Edited, Mar 22nd 2014 10:36am by Lyrailis
#10 Mar 22 2014 at 9:48 AM Rating: Good
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Huh. Well I don't know what's up with your particular system.

This is it looks like for me, in official windowed mode, running under WINE on my Linux Mint 16 box:

http://i1184.photobucket.com/albums/z330/alicesara/Screenshotfrom2014-03-22114309_zpse31515f6.png
#11 Mar 22 2014 at 1:58 PM Rating: Good
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http://i.imgur.com/HndYZQn.png

This is what it is doing to me. I cannot get the game to cover up the taskbar at the bottom, nor hide the stupid border along the top and it appears to be squishing the first few lines of the chatlog to compensate for the room that is taken up by the taskbar/top border.
#12 Mar 23 2014 at 12:21 AM Rating: Decent
have you set the taskbar to autohide? I ask this because even modern programs like google chrome won't cover the taskbar except in boarderless fullscreen, which the official windowed mode doesn't do. Also, I checked and being covered by the taskbar shouldn't have any effect on the way FFXI is rendered. Though from the context of your post (it seems that you have been away for a number of years), it may just be that it is so long since you played, that 2002 era text rendering from a port of a PS2 game no longer looks as good as it used to (compared to other games), and by going back to it, you are unintentionally comparing it to more modern games.
#13 Mar 23 2014 at 6:09 AM Rating: Good
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alphamone wrote:
have you set the taskbar to autohide? I ask this because even modern programs like google chrome won't cover the taskbar except in boarderless fullscreen, which the official windowed mode doesn't do. Also, I checked and being covered by the taskbar shouldn't have any effect on the way FFXI is rendered. Though from the context of your post (it seems that you have been away for a number of years), it may just be that it is so long since you played, that 2002 era text rendering from a port of a PS2 game no longer looks as good as it used to (compared to other games), and by going back to it, you are unintentionally comparing it to more modern games.


The text rendering bug does not happen in fullscreen mode, though.: It ONLY does it with the official windowed mode. I tested Windower's Borderless Window mode, and it doesn't have the text rendering bug either.

So it isn't a problem of me comparing FFXI to modern games.

As far as hiding the taskbar... that'd be awkward to turn that on and off every time I go to play FFXI; I just don't see that being feasible. I like my Taskbar being visible when I'm not playing games; I'd have to keep turning auto-hide on and off every time I go into a game and that's just not a reasonable solution to the problem.

But if you're sure that FFXI's text rendering has nothing to do with the fact the window is being squished by having to allow for the taskbar room, then the taskbar isn't even the cause anyways.

Though that reminds me. I do remember seeing a "Menu Resolution". Maybe I'll try lowering that and it might be able to fit the menu on the screen without distortions.

EDIT: nope, that didn't work either. Tried setting it significantly lower, still distorted.

EDIT2: Wow, seriously, a ratedown for this? *rolls eyes*

Edited, Mar 23rd 2014 6:38pm by Lyrailis
#14 Mar 24 2014 at 4:38 AM Rating: Good
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Just use Windower or quitcherbitchin'. Nothing is going to fix SE's klugeriffic windowed mode.
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#15 Mar 28 2014 at 4:54 AM Rating: Good
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Yeah, there's a fix out there for people who have this problem. It may not be SE official, but honestly a large number of PC games are "finished" by modders (Civilization games, Elder Scrolls, almost every other MMO, etc.) Leave the dev team to coding things that are completely untouchable by 3rd party hands.
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