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I disagree. What little I got to play of Beta 4 before I got 3102'd was an incredibly polished, interesting, and fun game. The game I played in alpha and betas 1-3 has steadily progressed from "okay this looks promising" to "damn they're actually going to pull this off, aren't they?"

The NA marketing team is doing a huge campaign this go round. (They were too embarrassed last time.)

Now, if all the reviewers also get hit with 90000 and 3102, there's going to be blood. But Yoshi P swears it's fixed.

While my primary concern with XIV is leveling secondary jobs at a reasonable pace, you most definitely wouldn't be saying this if you played Aion. Holy ********* the 40-50 push was nauseating, nevermind the risk of getting ganked in zones where it was applicable, and basically forced when they raised the level cap from 52+.

Rest just comes off as spiteful hating because XI seems like your true love.

So you're saying that validates him pissing in XIV's cheerios with what's basically trollbait?

I can get hating on XIV for its leeching of resources from XI to it. I can get it maybe not being his thing even though we've only seen early-game content. I can get someone still having things they'd like to do in XI so they're not really interested in jumping to another game with its own likely steep time requirements. What I don't get is someone willfully posting his malicious prophecy with nothing but opinion backing it. What I don't get is this stupid sense of pride some seem to carry for MMOs and that talking about any other game not your own in a positive light is utter sacrilege.

People are allowed to like multiple games. People are allowed to walk away from games they're tired of. XI can learn from XIV just as XIV can and likely has learned from XI. So, will some people quit XIV after trying it? Sure. Will some return to XI? Maybe. Is he afraid he'll lose friends to XIV's release, thus making his XI life harder? Probably. But being a bitter tool just because isn't really cool. Doesn't matter if this is an XI board or not. In fact, I'd argue this a cross-game board first with many XI players actually interested in XIV.

Or perhaps to mirror the stupidity, "I hope XIV thrives, is reviewed spectacularly, and SE shuts down XI in six months to focus on it!"

The last certainly won't happen, but I'd hope you'll understand that despite my own criticisms of XI, I don't want to see it go. I want to see it grow and improve just as much now as I did when I was playing 20 months ago. I simply stopped because it wasn't growing enough to satisfy me for reasons ranging from Tanaka to some of the "old school" drivel you see people dredge up for the very reasons why XIV will fail because it isn't XI 2.0. sh*t, the concept of needlessly incessant grind is why I ripped on Aion in my last post. Let's not pretend XI isn't short on those, either. I'm sure XIV will have its own just to placate those... types of players.

Edited, Aug 23rd 2013 4:46am by Seriha

I don't think anyone here hates XI, most of us have played since 03-04 up until very recently. To talk about leveling though, when XI's leveling has become a joke, honestly? As for graphics, they were toned down to make the game accessible to more people. At this point these arguments will all be a matter of opinion. We'll just have to wait and see what happens, I'm pretty sure both can survive. The Japanese are also very loyal to local products, which puts XIV ahead of many other MMOs. Not to mention it releasing on consoles which are highly popular there compared to PCs.

Well, FFXIV managed to beat its concurrent beta user record...so it's something. I know PSO2 is more exclusively Japanese, though quite a few NA people managed to get in on it too. Either way, I still stand by my point that both will co-exist, and both will move ahead.

Edited, Aug 23rd 2013 10:05am by Montsegurnephcreep

No, I am saying that it is funny that you are accusing him of having XI for his "True Love" on Zam=10

But BLMs in XI spam the same two spells, and always have. First it was Blizzard IV and Thunder IV, then it become Bliz V and/or Thunder V. Abyssea shook things up and we got to cast a much wider variety of spells, but we also had to sub bard, so it was a wash in some respects.

Oh suuuuure you still get to sleepga and stun things, but 90% of your efforts go into Blizzarding crap to death (and trying for those sexy crits in Abyssea. I broke 8,000 on a super crit Blizzard V and for a brief instant was the happiest little Tarutaru in the universe.)

At 42 THM my legacy character has a bar and a half of abilities, and that's without equipping anything from cross class. The THM storyline also encourages you to sleep **** and run away.

Edited, Aug 23rd 2013 11:47pm by Catwho

Can you in any way back up your statement with anything beyond your opinion (you know, specific examples etc and a comparison to how it's been done better) or should we all just write your posts off as another opinion that doesn't matter? It's cool to have an opinion and all but charging in and stating "it's gonna fail cause I don't like it" just makes you look like an someone with an overwhelming case of butthurt.

Note: I'm not saying you don't have valid reasons for your opinion, but you haven't exactly given us a reason to take you seriously on it.

Yeah, sure, let's just take a sensationalist post out of context.

In the actual interview you'll find the following:

Bolded the important part, and even then they'd seemingly consider a hybrid model first.

As is, the game has basically exceeded their expectations and is currently undergoing a maintenance to improve server stability, add more worlds, and add a bit more capacity to the existing worlds. There are seriously people who can't play right now because the game is that in demand. Whether or not that holds in the long term, hard to say, and I'm of the mind they will be needing to add even more servers on top of free transfer options soon.

But yes, the game is gonna die in six months, sure. And F2P is the devil in all its incarnations, too.

When people are fighting to get slots on the FFXIV servers even knowing that in a month they are going to be charged money, there's no way that XIV would be going F2P this go round. 1.0 stayed free for many months because the game was unplayable. ARR has the opposite problem - it's so damn fun everyone wants to play.

Edited, Sep 4th 2013 9:00am by Catwho

Noticing patterns doesn't really mean anything if you don't react to them. "Oh, the company gets worse and worse year after year? Guess I'll just play the next game as well!"

Considering 1.0 of all games picked up players towards the end, I'm not overly worried.