A little rantFollow

YOU don't have to be a robot,YOU don't have to level the job that everyone else wants, YOU don't have to waste your time outside of RL.

YOU could always, LEAD a party and come on any job YOU please?

As someone who played this game for many many years I am upset this is how you feel. I understand it is a rant, but as someone who butt heads with the norm for his entire playing career it is what you make of it. Early in my career I did the conforming thing, then realized I actually didn't enjoy playing how everyone else wanted me to play. For the next 5-6 years I played solely how I wanted to play, and if it meant that I would have to accomplish things alone or in small like minded groups so be it.

My adventures took me from Windurst, to Bastok, through the Sky and the Sea. Ive climbed the highest mountaints, crossed the smoothest plains, trudged through the densest jungles and explored the bottomless caves all across the land. Ive been from a forgotten Empire to one in dire need, I have been a hero across time, and through parallel universes, preventing catastrophic calamities from befalling the denizens of Vana Diel.

I never had the best gear, but I can tell you that there is way more to this game than gearing up. Unfortunate that you haven't had the opportunity to enjoy it yet. There is plenty of content for solo/low man stuff that allows for a large variety of job combinations and play styles. However if you want to attain the best gear, you need to conform to playing in an acceptable proven way.

And I will return one day to continue on my path, I am an adventurer of Vanadiel, and when the call for a hero arises, little Mageoholic will be on his way to the scene, alone, or with friends.

(and that call for adventure will be when Steam sells SOA for like 10 bucks cuz I aint paying 20 or w/e they want atm.)

You may laugh, but this is actually a sound strategy. Youtube presents:

I do actually wonder how an all bst + sacrifice group would do in delve...

The sac can be a BST too. I've been in a few runs where a Twilight BST was the sac, even one where the same player did a couple runs on PLD and then switched to BST since he wanted to lose exp on a different job ;)



Or in alliance content like Delve... it's our $220.15.



If you have WHM SMN BST and your LS won't let you join events, get a new LS. As many people have said, WHM is extremely in demand for pretty much any event. Only reason I could see not wanting a WHM is if the player is just not doing their job well (and WHM performance is more based on paying attention as opposed to being highly dependent on gear)...

If your LS is just full of other WHMs who can't go as some other job, I can't see why they wouldn't let you contribute on BST or SMN if you're doing your job decently. I CAN see how a random shout group would cherry pick the ideal DDs (strongest DD jobs with super gear), but in your own LS? Get out if they won't let you play.

One word of hope: with new pet items coming for SMN and BST, those jobs may well get more powerful very soon, to the point where people will more readily accept them as DD jobs. With Delve H2H + Alternator, PUP has certainly gotten that way now, and the new SMN/BST pet enhancement items may push those pet jobs to similar performance levels. Yeah, there are still people who refuse to invite a PUP, but there are a lot more people than ever before who accept that PUP can definitely oull its weight as a DD these days.

And like others have said, there's a big world out there and lots of stuff you can do that isn't the currently popular endgame. You can solo a ton on BST, or do a lot of lowman stuff with your WHM plus a friend or two. Have you done all of the story missions for all the expansions? Got all your Relic/Empy+2 gear? Do Colonization Reives and build up Bayld to buy gear (including more new things coming soon)?

Even if you want to get some elite gear for your BST, you should be able to get into random shout parties on WHM to work on plasm for a Delve weapon and get the one-time required NM win to buy the item.

My thoughts and opinions are that you are either a troll/sock account here, or so completely insulated from actual game play mentality of your fellow players that it's unbelievable that you haven't not progressed out of the sandbox and past the issue of "why am I forced to play other jobs and can't play on my favorite unique snowflake job all of the time".

As long as brds are singing refresh songs on whms they should never have trouble with MP.

God knows I can't think of more than once or twice that the whm I am in charge of has gone below 30%of their max MP, and I've never been in a situation where they have had to stop healing at any point.

Eh different healers serve a different purpose. I think SCH shines more as a group healer over a single target healer. They have some amazing tools that allow for party wide damage mitigation, and party wide recovery options. WHM to me seems like the defacto single target healer, with all the same single target options as SCH, with the added bonus of CureSkin, and big emergency heals of C5 and C6.

and of course RDM, the brute healer, who just spams spells back to back to back without stopping, except when they have to convert, neither excelling in group damage reduction, or single target stability.

Thats not to say these healers are not interchangeable, they can most certainly perform in any spot, you just need to structure the core group a bit differently depending on what healer is doing what, and in some cases might require additional levels of support (specifically in the case of RDM main healing, which has declined greatly since its hayday pre /SCH Sublimation that allowed WHM to begin competeing with longevity.)

Edited, Jun 26th 2013 7:18pm by rdmcandie

I'm pretty sure I said that a WHM with proper support should be fine.

No I don't care that you did or not was just pointing out you being a douche for no reason. Instead of telling the OP things are possible you just need to find other people, and develop different strategies, you basically called him an ungrateful git, who is out of touch with how this community actually plays the game. Which is something that this community (ZAM specifically) has a historical record of not doing. Well those who do find themselves banned eventually.

Also I am a douche, but guess what, I don't expect people to like me or even listen to me, I offer my constructive (and sometimes deconstructive) opinions, some enjoy what I have to say some don't. But you are right, I am a giant internet douche. Love me or hate me, DGAF.



Selective quoting always has a great way of helping to shape ones argument does it not. I said everyone has the right to play, but that doesn't mean people have to play with you, that is the non douchebag way of saying you will have to conform to some degree to progress. Or you can go straight @#%^ about it, and call the guy a piece of sh*t who is out of reality, and mentally inept. OP is ranting because the people who they thought were friends discarded her because she doesn't want to level a job they deem useful. Sure she can level a new job, learn a new job, gear a new job to suck on the teet of the great pixel gods. Or she can find new friends, try new tactics, decide that she doesn't actually care for pixels.

You say she is incompetent, and demeaning towards others ability to play the game. That it was her attitude that was the cause of the problem. I say that the OP needs to understand that not everything is useful in every situation, you might need more than one job, and that many job combinations are capable of clearing content, assuming the people behind the job are competent.


As for this being the end result, it is only such if one does not accept that their play style might not attract popular attention. I played a melee RDM for the better part of 8 years, conforming to the status quo in events, until I said **** it. But I managed to complete storyline, gear progressions with small groups, solo, and even melee RDM in big groups at times. So no, it isn't a one way street, and I feel sorry for you as a gamer if you feel it is.



Is it so shocking to you that new people still grab this game? That people not based in a decade worth of epeen pissing contests and **** high fives do exist. Just because the game is a decade old doesn't mean the knowledge base is available, let alone one that chronicles the entirety of FFXI, FOTM community drama fests. The older a game gets the less actual Meta knowledge exists, when new people come, there isn't the young bumbling I help you, you help me community. Its a "I am sick of grinding the same type of sh*t I did 8 years ago, lets make the best so it takes less time"

It is highly ignorant of you to expect a newer player to understand the overarching community. From what I have gathered OP found a job they liked, and now have hit a wall where the community says, your job sucks. But instead of helping the OP to understand situation difference, you (yes personally you) have basically told this player that they have to play how you want, or they may as well GTFO because they are useless to anyone involved in the game.



Of course you do, but then again thats why you have no friends. At least I have 2 or 3.

(By the way, you would'nt know a derail if it bit you in the ***.)

Edited, Jun 27th 2013 12:52am by rdmcandie

Edited, Jun 27th 2013 12:56am by rdmcandie

Put a gun to my head for Delve farming and I'll pick the SCH over WHM. I like regen and phalanx as well as access for stuff. I can see how someone might prefer a SCH but I'm surprised that a WHM would be turned away.