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#1 May 10 2013 at 2:29 AM Rating: Excellent
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Am I the only one who clicked on this thread expecting actual baby photos [of Jinte]? o.O

Except if it were baby photos, it would be like looking at before and afters of Michael Jackson. Only instead of turning into a white guy, he changes into a chick!
#2 May 10 2013 at 2:33 AM Rating: Decent
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Jinte... The remaining of us wuv you vewy vewy much. =D

If anything.. come to Shiva where the linkshell is kicking and everyone is friendly.

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I have always enjoyed your snarky posts, and I have been witness to A LOT OF THEM, so I am either pretty tolerant, or you are pretty ok.

<3

(Also, I took the news of you being transgender the same way I reacted when I learned you were a girl after being pretty sure you were a guy for the longest time: "Huh, I never knew that. Live and learn, I guess")
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It's pretty rough to come back and dont see any of your friends on. It's why i'm trying to make sure i always have my friends on Skype, Email or even PSN / Xbox Gamer tags so i can keep in touch. I'd hate to never talk to some of them anymore.

I'm sure a lot of them still play, i'm just not sure how long you've been away. As i have frequently found out, if you canceled your account at one point, your friendslist will be a little wonky, and even people who -are- online will display as being offline in your friendslist. Your best bet is to go down the list, do a /sea for them, or even send them a message. Plenty of friends i know, despite not playing anymore, log in to POL occasionally to check their messages and will give you their contact information.

And if worse comes to worse, the playerbase has (mostly) matured. Very few of us are still the idiots we were before, we like to engage in conversation these days, sit around and talk to friends and help out. As rough as it may be, you could easily make new friends now. Ever since i started doing Delve and just talked to some people, i've had something close to 10 people that were inviting me as friends after a lovely chat. And even more i got to talk to quite pleasantly. Judging from your past topics and posts (i'm sorry, i dont know you personally or from the game) you dont seem like a bad person. You're intelligent and take time to explain things to people too, that goes a long way really.

You'll be just fine, i'm sure. And if you hang in there, no one really ever quits FFXI. They'll be back, and you know it.
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#5 May 10 2013 at 8:25 AM Rating: Excellent
Make new friends
But keep the old
One is silver
And the other's gold.

The circle's round
It has no end
That's how long
I want to be your friend.
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#7 May 10 2013 at 9:27 AM Rating: Good
That's the problem with life, things never really stay the same. (Even if you wanted them to.)
There will always be a time you can pick out from your mind that seems to stand out from the others and can never go back to.
(Well not outside your own memory anyway.)
However, you are young and there will be plenty more of those around the corner at the most unexpected places.

I started playing FFXI at a much later age then you (28) so at 13 the internet pretty much didnt exist then for public use. ><
The only escape I had was art which was a nice ice breaker at school when I came up with something noteworthy in class as I seemed useless at every other subject. (Probably because I was bored and always drawing when I shouldn't have.)

I can't even remember the name of those people I spent 5 years with in high school and wonder if I am getting alzheimer's 30 yrs too early.
I do tend to remember a time when UK schools didn't have a prom when high school finished and classes weren't labelled year 1-11 as they are now. (Yes thank you to the 1990's when things went Americanised and now I have to keep reminding myself what year my niece is in at high school because the system was different when I was a kid.)

I suppose all I can hope for is if I live old enough I'll still have my wits and a strong zimmer frame to get around with while I wait to get my electric powered scooter to get my around the shops! ^^

Excitement? ..... er nope!
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That's the problem with life, things never really stay the same.
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#9 May 10 2013 at 10:34 AM Rating: Default
Keep your head up and making new friends... thats what life is about change and it will continue to do so throughtout your life... make sure to join us all in FFXIV you never know who you could run into on the forums or in game at that point... we will know by june when our release is now ;)
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Good luck with finding a game community and dealing with the hormonal stuff
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I know there was a lot of "feels" in there, but really you just made me feel really ****ing old. As you know I just came back and.. everyone is gone. I put on 3 linkpearls and were greeted with the "Pearl Broken" message ;;
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#12 May 10 2013 at 12:40 PM Rating: Good
lolgaxe wrote:
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That's the problem with life, things never really stay the same.
Why would that be a problem?


People tend to hate change and feel comfortable where they are.
When change happens and people feel the need to move on, there lies the problem.
I think that's the issue the OP is feeling atm. :(
#13 May 10 2013 at 12:49 PM Rating: Good
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Not to step in on your post here Jinte, but really I've been in much the same boat for the past few years. I started on FFXI on '04 as one of those filthy PS2 owners who's fault it is that the game was held back! Back then, I was a part of a group on GameFAQs, the RPGElite. They had a presence on FFXI, and I joined up with them. Sh0plifter and the crew were great. I loved hanging out with them, but they were mostly burnt out already. They were struggling to get into the exclusive endgame scene and us newbies were left to fend for ourselves at time.

Eventually my wife picked up playing a mule on that PS2 account, and I got a computer capable of gaming, so I made Pawkeshup.

As Pawk, I went out into the world, got a new LS as RPGElite crumbled. That LS subsequently folded and I decided to take it into my own hands to give people a home. I ran the OrderOfThTaru for what seemed like a long time, but in reality was not. My wife as Bratia and I ran people through ranks and quests, and we made tons of friends. I could sit here and list them all, but I doubt any here would know them. I was one of the few who stalked the forums here from our group. But their names were engraved on my heart. They were my second, highly dysfunctional family.

I also had a second line of people, my static. Back in the olden days, statics were not unheard of. People would gather a stable party to guarantee levels. Mine consisted of Muligan, Ohtar, Oosul and Waldorf. Eventually we lost Ohtar, our PLD, and replaced him with Rellinger. They became some of my closest friends on here. I miss them so dearly on the game. We did more than just level, we broke the caps together, we went through some missions, and helped one another get gear. Muligan would also lead me to a new group of friends.

CoP started the break-up of the Order, simply because after all my time helping, I wasn't getting it in return. My thanks was to watch people leave the shell for the endgame scene and return to rebuilding the shell over and over. I had another shell around this time though, TheArgonauts. Batosi ran the ship, and his sister and her husband, the aforemented Muligan, were always there. So many others, whom I'd hop on vent to chat with as we raided. We hoisted many a "relic beverage" as we tore through the content.Eventually, Batosi's quest for a relic ended when he simply couldn't deal with the drama I myself was used to: The rebuilding of the LS for people who just drifted through.

I fell in with some former shellmates of Muli, endgamers the lot of them, and spent plenty of time running with Eisengraf's shell. Eventually I ended up in Coast2Coast, a social shell that held a lot of the former hangers on of various social and endgame shells with common membership. By now my friends were lost adrift. My list was slowly growing quieter and quieter. It would be days between times seeing someone on. The leader of the shell, Shin, married and left the game. We fell apart then.

After, I fell in with Waldorf's son's LS, or one he was a part of. I don't even know its name. Bratia and I stayed there as Abyssea dawned on FFXI, and we got some gear on runs there. But when the server merge happened, we were left outside the clique. We'd always had a social LS to go to, the current one run by a sweet Texan with a huge heart. But it's never felt like home, not truly. It's a gathering of disenfranchised strangers, people without a real place to call home, who make that shell their home as best they can.

However, it isn't home.

No, my home is gone, long lost and forgotten, not even a place I could go home to. I have a few friends, dear friends, left. But they number only a handful. Gone are the days of being in a group of like-minded people, something I've felt very pointedly of late. But the biggest blow was actually last year, when my wife told me she didn't love me any longer. FFXI is just another big reminder of that, and I took a year break because of it all. I'm happier now, RL. I've moved on, found someone new. But yet I keep coming back to this game. I really don't know the why of it now. I have almost no one to see on here, most of what I want to do requires help, and I am running low on content I enjoy that I can solo.

So I know how you feel. You're a ghost of the past. You live with all these memories every time you pass by this place or that one. And you feel that the best is past, and there really isn't anywhere to go. I wish I could offer sage words and say it gets better, but even now I find that I don't try hard to befriend anyone, because I know the bitter truth. They move on. They always do. And someday, so will I. I just wonder if anyone will be there to miss me when it happens.
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#14 May 10 2013 at 2:27 PM Rating: Excellent
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I leave and come back, only to leave again for much the same reasons you outlined, Jinte. Everyone I kind of "grew up" with in XI have all moved on to other things. My two best friends had a kid and have been mostly MIA for the last several years. Others moved on to other games, some were the "linkshell hoppers" whose only real loyalty was to the people who were willing to help them that very moment, and still more just disappeared into the veil.

My most recent return was probably the last one forever. I joined a fairly large linkshell and the people were super cool, but the magic was gone, I was too far behind, and for the first time my heart whispered that it might actually....be over. I'm sad, but excited for XIV - hoping that it will be a new and exciting experience that will recapture that wonder I felt when my level 1 BLM finally found her way out of Bastok and into the world.

I guess we'll see, but for what it's worth, I'm glad you are still with us Jinte.
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Pawkeshup, Immortal Lion wrote:
But yet I keep coming back to this game. I really don't know the why of it now. I have almost no one to see on here, most of what I want to do requires help, and I am running low on content I enjoy that I can solo.

So I know how you feel. You're a ghost of the past. You live with all these memories every time you pass by this place or that one. And you feel that the best is past, and there really isn't anywhere to go. I wish I could offer sage words and say it gets better, but even now I find that I don't try hard to befriend anyone, because I know the bitter truth. They move on. They always do. And someday, so will I. I just wonder if anyone will be there to miss me when it happens.


Not to step on your reply or on Jinte's post, but you're damn right.

I feel the same way about the game now, really. I feel somewhat weird that a game, in which you have to rely on other people and that all of that social interaction made awesome friendships (and sometime more) happens, really have become what it is right now. People can argue that the game has become easier, I say it destroyed the need for interactions and bonds (and still, I am sure you can also argue on that, but that's my opinion, really).


As a side note, I always have that kind of nostalgic feeling everytime I hear "Distant Worlds - Memoro de la ^Stono" on my iPod. It makes you remember all those friendships and the shared adventures.

I really wish I could add something philosophical or what not, but I am guilty of the same nostalgic thing you guys feel.


Am I weird for saying I miss Sky Farming because I feel it was one of the most social activity you could do as a LS ? Waiting and competing for 3 hours, you HAD the time to talk in-game or through voice chat !

EDIT : English being my second language, I end up ******** my sentences' syntax. Forgive me.

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Edited, May 10th 2013 7:06pm by MisterRandy
#16 May 10 2013 at 5:46 PM Rating: Excellent
Ditto, Pwk.

I'm very close to unsubscribing. I kind of want to quit, to be honest. Really, I just want to finish up WoTG at this point... but I simply don't know anyone in-game anymore the way that I used to. I know there are still good friendships in Vana'diel, but just not involving me. My in-game friends all left two or three years ago... try as I may, the game has just never been the same since. I'm even in a good linkshell with some really cool people, but they're just not -my- people.

My journey through FFXI was very similar, too. I didn't really do endgame when I first hit level 75... my endgame was helping others in the linkshell with leveling, missions, NMs, etc. I wasn't the official leader of my linkshell, but I was pretty much the leader, because the real leader was gone so often. Eventually, when I finally started doing endgame more often (and not having so much time to dedicate to the ls), things began to fall apart. Then, I simply got busier in RL. I could no longer lead, the actual leader was never around, and nobody else wanted to step up. The ls fell apart, just about everyone quit, and that was that.

I was really hoping the new expansion would breathe some life back into the game for me, but honestly, I'm totally underwhelmed. I'm just not feeling it. I think I'd enjoy it a lot more if I honestly had a core group of friends to enjoy the game with, but I don't. Everyone who is in the game is already rooted and settled. As long as I play, I'll always be a drifter, a shell of the enthusiastic linkshell leader who helped so many people on the old Garuda server. Although our linkshell wasn't an endgame ls, we were certainly badass! Only one or two other people from the old ls still play, and I haven't seen one of them in months. With that ls, this game was special. Without it, it's just a grind.

Really gives perspective on why WoW remains so popular. Personally, I think it has nothing to do with the quality of the game, and everything to do with the fact that simply so many people play it. I'd still be totally entrenched in FFXI if all of my friends from a few years ago were still playing. Those guys were the best... Zarovich, Kiabrightblade, Aeora, Orla, Pikko (yes, that Pikko), Makina, Zephiris, Zadine, Astoner, Felinus, Jetamio, Dragel, Gravatusmiasma, Galluspit, Meeker... there were so many others who came and went, and some of those guys are still around, too... but it's just not the same.

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And Jinte, keep your head up... yet be prepared for this to happen a lot through the course of your life. You've just got to learn to enjoy the journey as much as you can, because, ultimately, there's just one destination.

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Not to step in on your post here Jinte, but really I've been in much the same boat for the past few years. I started on FFXI on '04 as one of those filthy PS2 owners who's fault it is that the game was held back! Back then, I was a part of a group on GameFAQs, the RPGElite. They had a presence on FFXI, and I joined up with them. Sh0plifter and the crew were great. I loved hanging out with them, but they were mostly burnt out already. They were struggling to get into the exclusive endgame scene and us newbies were left to fend for ourselves at time.

Eventually my wife picked up playing a mule on that PS2 account, and I got a computer capable of gaming, so I made Pawkeshup.

As Pawk, I went out into the world, got a new LS as RPGElite crumbled. That LS subsequently folded and I decided to take it into my own hands to give people a home. I ran the OrderOfThTaru for what seemed like a long time, but in reality was not. My wife as Bratia and I ran people through ranks and quests, and we made tons of friends. I could sit here and list them all, but I doubt any here would know them. I was one of the few who stalked the forums here from our group. But their names were engraved on my heart. They were my second, highly dysfunctional family.

I also had a second line of people, my static. Back in the olden days, statics were not unheard of. People would gather a stable party to guarantee levels. Mine consisted of Muligan, Ohtar, Oosul and Waldorf. Eventually we lost Ohtar, our PLD, and replaced him with Rellinger. They became some of my closest friends on here. I miss them so dearly on the game. We did more than just level, we broke the caps together, we went through some missions, and helped one another get gear. Muligan would also lead me to a new group of friends.

CoP started the break-up of the Order, simply because after all my time helping, I wasn't getting it in return. My thanks was to watch people leave the shell for the endgame scene and return to rebuilding the shell over and over. I had another shell around this time though, TheArgonauts. Batosi ran the ship, and his sister and her husband, the aforemented Muligan, were always there. So many others, whom I'd hop on vent to chat with as we raided. We hoisted many a "relic beverage" as we tore through the content.Eventually, Batosi's quest for a relic ended when he simply couldn't deal with the drama I myself was used to: The rebuilding of the LS for people who just drifted through.

I fell in with some former shellmates of Muli, endgamers the lot of them, and spent plenty of time running with Eisengraf's shell. Eventually I ended up in Coast2Coast, a social shell that held a lot of the former hangers on of various social and endgame shells with common membership. By now my friends were lost adrift. My list was slowly growing quieter and quieter. It would be days between times seeing someone on. The leader of the shell, Shin, married and left the game. We fell apart then.

After, I fell in with Waldorf's son's LS, or one he was a part of. I don't even know its name. Bratia and I stayed there as Abyssea dawned on FFXI, and we got some gear on runs there. But when the server merge happened, we were left outside the clique. We'd always had a social LS to go to, the current one run by a sweet Texan with a huge heart. But it's never felt like home, not truly. It's a gathering of disenfranchised strangers, people without a real place to call home, who make that shell their home as best they can.

However, it isn't home.

No, my home is gone, long lost and forgotten, not even a place I could go home to. I have a few friends, dear friends, left. But they number only a handful. Gone are the days of being in a group of like-minded people, something I've felt very pointedly of late. But the biggest blow was actually last year, when my wife told me she didn't love me any longer. FFXI is just another big reminder of that, and I took a year break because of it all. I'm happier now, RL. I've moved on, found someone new. But yet I keep coming back to this game. I really don't know the why of it now. I have almost no one to see on here, most of what I want to do requires help, and I am running low on content I enjoy that I can solo.

So I know how you feel. You're a ghost of the past. You live with all these memories every time you pass by this place or that one. And you feel that the best is past, and there really isn't anywhere to go. I wish I could offer sage words and say it gets better, but even now I find that I don't try hard to befriend anyone, because I know the bitter truth. They move on. They always do. And someday, so will I. I just wonder if anyone will be there to miss me when it happens.


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Am I the only one who clicked on this thread expecting actual baby photos [of Jinte]? o.O

Except if it were baby photos, it would be like looking at before and afters of Michael Jackson. Only instead of turning into a white guy, he changes into a chick!
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Hugs for teh Jinte-poo!

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Am I the only one who clicked on this thread expecting actual baby photos [of Jinte]? o.O

Except if it were baby photos, it would be like looking at before and afters of Michael Jackson. Only instead of turning into a white guy, he changes into a chick!
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How many times have I asked you to stop posting those Tim Curry pictures?! Smiley: oyvey
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Went to Rocky Horror last Saturday actually :D

West Seattle, Admiral Theatre, first Saturday of the month. June 1st is next.

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FFXI started its decline a while back, when SE looked at WoW and became jealous. FFXI was their most successful game but it wasn't enough, they wanted to be WoW and they wanted all that money Blizzard makes.

They siphoned off developers and money and fed it into a new project (the wow killer!), as the years went on more and more money went into this new project and less care, money and time into FFXI. This new project finally launched and failed horribly, instead of shocking SE into putting more support into their successful game (FFXI) they went crazy and threw everything at the new failed one to try and rebuild it, in the proccess starving FFXI more than ever.

I quit FFXI nearly 2 years ago now, and this for me was a very sad thing. I was incredibly addicted and in love with this game and the world but it became obvious it was being starved and would go unloved just exactly as it has done, where many of you diehards are now is where I was back then. Even the new expansion turned out to be a cash grab to milk money from what remains of their addicted players, every bad thing they do drives more players away. They think they can net them all back with FFXIVARR but it's just not going to happen.

Ultimately this is a business decision, they are fine with killing off FFXI because they want you all to jump onto FFXIV. Whether to fall for their tactics is upto you but given the chances of FFXIV becoming even half as successful as FFXI as slim the chances of SE getting itchy feet again and cutting staff/content/updates or who knows what are pretty high. SE are not a company that does it for their players, they are one of the most greedy companies out there and the way they treated us all with FFXI is the way they will treat their players on FFXIV.

I'm glad I saw the way the wind was blowing before the new expansion, I'm glad I found a new game and most importantly I'm really glad that I will never fall for their ploy to get me to move to their next failed MMO title. My admiration and loyalty for SE as a company has been replaced with hatred and mistrust and the thought of being stuck with them again on another MMO would of been a horrible thing.

Thankfully ARR isn't good enough to even tempt me into this trap of becoming a customer of theirs again.
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Thankfully ARR isn't good enough to even tempt me into this trap of becoming a customer of theirs again.


This isn't the thread nor the forum for it, but you really should take another (serious) look at ARR. All the feedback has been largely the same regarding what we are allowed to know because of NDA and that is that: it's not even the same game as 1.0. Really, it's not.

I don't think SE ever wanted to be a WoW-killer. WoW players aren't really even the target audience. There's a pretty big style gap between WoW's RTS\mmorpg roots and SE's jRPGs. While there's a lot of us who like both, most fall into one camp or the other and are firmly entrenched. No amount of copying the UI and gameplay style is going to make that Alliance Paladin who just got done stomping some Orc in Alterac Valley suddenly want to hop on a Chocobo to ride alongside the Roegadyn on their way to find Bahamut's Labyrinth. SE isn't trying to make a WoW killer, they are just trying to make a better FF experience online.

Eventually SE was going to have to face reality and realize that the Ps2 wasn't going to last forever. They did a terrific job with it, and in recent years the programming tricks those devs employed to get the most out of it, and XI, were truly miraculous. However, they are just running out of space. How many xpacs can they realistically reuse maps and still charge people for "new" content? How long before they just can't expand our inventory any more? The end is coming, and that's why we don't see the new xpac on the Ps2 over here. I'm frankly surprised that Japan even got it. Sooner or later, it is going to have to go away.

That's not to say they didn't royally fubar the first iteration of XIV in their search for a "clean slate" - but they owned it and instead of scrapping it and stripping down VII on a smartphone with a materia cash shop to recover their losses or something equally asinine, they put a new guy in charge, actually gave him the resources he asked for and shut the old crap down.

SE may be a lot of things, but there is one thing that is certain. They love Final Fantasy more than any of their other IPs and because of that alone, they deserve a second look from all of us.

Edited, May 13th 2013 11:01am by Torrence
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