All Worlds Maintenance (May. 8)Follow

http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/polnews/news22201.shtml

Their not adding anything. Their nerfing Delve into oblivion. 20m hard limit on all NMs and walls in the dungeon that only go down once you kill those same NMs. Basically unless your a member of a big shell you have no chance of farming points or getting the KIs.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/33165-Long-Holding-Times-for-Delve-NMs?p=430442&viewfull=1#post430442

Psst if you don't speak Japanese your not supposed to know about this yet.


Edited, May 7th 2013 3:24pm by saevellakshmi

damn , sadly i havent done any SoA stuff yet because im still working on getting sam to 99. oh well hopefully by the time im rdy for it people will have found good ways to do it.

If you are casual, you may have a very difficult time getting your clears if you haven't already.

With that said, the option still exists to kill these NMs inside the fracture.

Unfortunately I'm well behind the curve. I know people much further behind than me. I guess we're all just screwed and that's all there is to it.

I do appreciate the thought. It's just kind of discouraging to see I'm almost literally a day late and a dollar short from getting it done before these seemingly unnecessary changes. FFXI makes me wish I had a crystal ball even more than real life does. If I'd just known what was going to happen I would have done things differently.



Maybe I better start hoarding my gil for clears. Of course then I won't have any for other things, but what the heck.

So it's a case of "People are getting through our badly designed content too quickly! Lets not make more things for them to do and get like anyone else would do, but instead lets completely nerf the crap out of it so they have to take a longer time to get it done because we already blew it by introducting this too quickly and putting the wrong digits down for damage"

It's a mouthful, but it comes down to "SE logic"... :/

Why expand on giving people more things to do when you can keep them busy for even longer if you completely nerf the **** out of it after all your important nagging customers got what they were after already?

Everyone feels this is a dumb move. Everyone except for SE that is apparently...

SE is being nice for once and alerting everyone they should do their T4/5 NM runs tonight. I got nothing.

Though several days ago, SE did mention they would be updating Delve on the 8th, they just were uncertain how it would be done.

I highly doubt that.

No, it's not that we were getting through it too quickly. The major problem was people complaining that it was taking way too long to defeat the outside NMs, echoing the same situation that happened with the whole Pandemonium Warden years ago. That and there have been many instances lately of other groups coming up to a ??? to pop one, but one group is sitting there slowly, slowly whittling away at the NM.

Right now I'm watching a group in Ceizak just repeatedly throwing Diabolos at Tax'et, and they've been at it for over an hour now with it still at 75%. At best, their current rate of progress will make the fight last three more hours, but with access to its Benumbing Blaze later on, it's possible that this fight will take far, far longer.

They wanted this content limited to the best of the best people beating it (and they said that from the get go), and really only the best players will be able to take them down in that 20 minute span once the changes are made.

I think this'll end up being a much needed change all in all.

Took us nearly an hour to do the grasshopper (with lots of zombie-ing because of rage), but then we did the raptor in about fifteen minutes.

You just can't underestimate them. We'd have been done with grasshopper without any problems if we had started out with soul voice buffs. Melee HAVE to eat sushi - these mobs cause you to whiff even with capped and merited skills.

This paragraph has me loling with how much they just don't get it.

Who the hell is going to risk inviting a bunch of gimps for these fights now? Assuming it even happened before (which was a surefire recipe for those 4+ hour marathon fights, assuming they could win at all), it certainly isn't going to happen now with a 20 minute time limit.

You know your event is poorly designed when you have to practically beg your playerbase to invite folks to it.

From what I have seen, for several mobs even though the "trick" to weaken them has already been discovered, I know in several cases it's a form of "make the mob use X move repeatedly to lower its resistances." Too bad you likely won't have a whole lot of time to exploit that weakness now, since you'll likely use a good chunk of the 20 minutes just getting them to use that move enough times.

Does SE seriously think people are gonna just run around helping pick-up groups do this content after they've already beaten it and have no rewards from doing it again?

When content requires help in this game, that's what linkshells are for. This is a good thing, this content should be moving us back toward proper endgame linkshells which is how FFXI is supposed to be. A tight-knit group of players helping each other accomplish their goals in this game. That has always been what FFXI was about right up until Abyssea ruined it all.

Ever since Abyssea, SE has had this Grand Community concept that everyone is in it together and will love thy neighbor and all this stuff. Listen, I'm a really giving guy. I love helping people. But the idiots that Abyssea raised are helpless, I'm not going to spend 2 hours teaching someone how to do their job so that I can help them get some win that gains me & my friends absolutely nothing. The current structure of this game enforces thrusting clueless players from Abyssea/Voidwatch into this more challenging content that they've never experienced before. TP'ing in -DT gear? Not MPKing your alliance? Watching your enmity level? These are all alien concepts to most players these days.