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I'm just asking for more money where the mouth is, and less arm chair quarterbacking. We have an overabundance of the latter and an imperceptible amount of the former.

You've shown us time and time again that your situation in life is far from common, so no, just because you can complete something does not mean the rest of us can.

Here here! [:beer:]

I don't have time to spend 80 hours per week on this game anymore, so Im lucked out on completing R/E/M weapons. I restarted about a year ago. Hencefore, I can't play any DD jobs because it was required to get those weapons to be able to play the jobs at events. If I can defeat a hard enemy ingame for better or comparable weapons, im all for it. Less time sinks, yes please! More difficult mobs YES! PLEASE!

I hope the Devs understand that I want more difficult content and less time sinks. Being able to play how I like and be able to participate with each event is a big reason to play this game for me. Dark Souls is a good example how you can combine difficulty and very little timesink. Want an easier time playing Dark Souls? Sure, grind the lowbie area till you are all powerful. Want a tough ride? Play the game normally.

Now all I have to pray for is a good group to do the new Skirmish and Delve content with. Im willing to spend 2-3 GMT evenings per week for that. Any good EU groups on Asura perhaps?:)

Played Dark Souls and after I got fed up with jogging back to boss battles I decided to cheat. Guess what? Even at level 999 you're still not invincible and enemies can still curse you / nudge you into bottomless pits. Then again I don't recall any games making me so angry I laugh about it after.

Jealousy is not a new sentiment. It's particularly prevalent in those who discount what others have achieved.


Edited, May 1st 2013 9:14am by TheBarrister

As someone caught in the throes of both an Empyrean and a Relic upgrade, I look at those new weapons and I think "I'm so glad I'm a bard. I'm so glad I'm a bard."

I actually put in a formal suggestion on ways to ease the 1500 plate requirement, such as having one rare/ex plate drop per completed kill. (I suppose just getting the magian trials would work as well.) At the rate of one plate per kill, it'll still take someone three years to upgrade to 99.

IDK that would require us trusting SE actually did market research and knew what they were doing. Whomever is designing their monsters has a serious case of Killer Game Master where they honestly thing it's them vs the players. I really hope I'm wrong and they created boss's with ridiculously high HP / defense but moderate offensive capability. That or dramatically change our HP scaling from level 76~99, honestly we should be packing 2500~3000 HP by now and fighting monsters / boss's that do corresponding high amounts of damage.

It seems the KIs are reduced by 5000 bayld for every coalition you've earned rank 4 with. The reduction is a joke, in my opinion.

Sorry, doing some reading, it seems not to be connected with having rank 4, but rather # of tags used? Exact requirements still being figured out.

Edited, May 1st 2013 11:18am by xypin

It's a 5% decrease, not 0.5%.

Sorry, I had my information wrong, it might just be linked to # of tags used, but exact requirements are still being examined. People are giving out their info in the BG colonization thread.

Buying marrows from other plays does not remove gil from the economy.

Well, we can start over the misconception that one area of an MMO is a time sink while another isn't, then we can move on from there.

Well, keeping in mind that SE's listed stat mods are different than what we identify them as. There's a multiplier reduces the final boost. This value starts high and reduces as you go up in level, but since the 75 cap (where it was 0.83), it's been sitting at 0.85. SE's WS mod %s account for that value, while ours instead leave it out until the damage calculation, because there's a floor function involved (it's not, say, 85% of your stat, it's 100% of your stat, floored (rounded down) to the nearest whole number, and then times 0.85. this doesn't make much difference with a 100% mod, but for other ws, it can; hence why we say the merit ws have a WS mod of 100%, not 85%). Thus, the real difference between what it was, and what it is now, from our understanding, would be this:

 
   Merits|  1  |  2  |  3  |  4  |  5   |  
Before   | 20% | 40% | 60% | 80% | 100% |  
Actual   | 86% | 90% | 93% | 97% | 100% |  

The values are still a bit weird, but the difference between an 86% mod and a 100% mod are a lot more negligible. Let's use one of those DEX mod WS to demonstrate:

Say the player has... oh... 150 DEX in their WS set (it's an arbitrary, easy to work with number, not an actual reflection of what one should or would have, and DEX is better to show than STR because of fSTR's own addition.). That amount of DEX would increase their base damage like so:

 
Before:  
 - 1 Merit: Weapon Base Damage +25 during WS 
 - 2 Merits: Weapon Base Damage +51 during WS 
 - 3 Merits: Weapon Base Damage +76 during WS 
 - 4 Merits: Weapon Base Damage +102 during WS 
 - 5 Merits: Weapon Base Damage +127 during WS 
 
Now:  
 - 1 Merit: Weapon Base Damage +109 during WS 
 - 2 Merits: Weapon Base Damage +114 during WS 
 - 3 Merits: Weapon Base Damage +118 during WS 
 - 4 Merits: Weapon Base Damage +123 during WS 
 - 5 Merits: Weapon Base Damage +127 during WS 

So, 1 merit now gives you better damage than 4 merits did previously. I think you all should understand that a difference of ~25 weapon damage is enormous, though I should point out that the difference gained by 4~5 weapon damage isn't a moot point, and +109 vs +127 is still a significant amount of extra damage per weapon skill on average, which means that that the difference between being 1/5 and 5/5 will still be clearly visible, and will become more visible the longer the fight drags on. It's just a lot more forgiving.



Honestly, damage sponges (mobs with ******** of HP, defense, and/or regen) should not ever be considered a good gauge of what is difficult. There's nothing unique or difficult about them, they're just grindy. SE's main problem is that they don't understand how to take advantage of their own in game mechanics to create the aspects of true difficulty and challenge that most players really want.



I won't deny that player HP has just not scaled well at all since the level cap went up. I mean, even before then, there's a crazy HP growth cut off. Take a subless Hume war, for example, HP goes up at +14/level from 1-10, +16/level from 11-30, +17/level from 31-50, +19/level from 51-60, and then it suddenly drops off to +8/level from 61-75. Post 75, the growth rate isn't nearly as constant, and jumps between +8~9 alternating, with occasional back-to-backs of either +8 twice or +9 twice. At the opposite end of the scale, a subless hume smn grows at +9HP/level from 1-10, then +11/level from 11-50, +13/level from 51-60, and then +7/level from 61-99. For some reason, SE decided to cut HP growth for players by ~50% after level 60, and didn't think to correct that when the level cap went up. At 75 cap, this cost wars/sams/mnks about 170HP, and smns about 90, so between 100~150 HP in all.

That's not a huge difference at 75, but when you tack on an extra 25 levels, well... a level 99 hume war's base HP is 1329, when it should be around 1824, if not higher, while for smn, they'd move from 948 base HP, to around 1182. So that 100-150 HP cut at 60+ has cost us upwards of 300-500 HP for most jobs, and that's only assuming the real growth would mimic the patterns set by the first 60 levels. And that's without subjobs.