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#1 Feb 26 2013 at 9:25 PM Rating: Excellent
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Windows XP Support Information

We regret to inform you that Final Fantasy XI / PlayOnline will no longer support Windows XP in accordance with the following schedule.

Due to the fact that Microsoft(R) has already completed the support life cycle of this product, we have found that continuing support for this OS is a difficult proposition.

At the time support for this product ceases, the software you are currently using will continue to function and games will still be playable. We will also continue to perform regular updates of existing software. However, after the date when we discontinue support, we will as a general rule no longer be able to provide support for problems arising as a result of the operating system.

Furthermore, customer support for members utilizing this operating system will still be available through the Square Enix Support Center.

[Support End Date]
March 26th, 2013

[Affected Operating Systems]
Windows XP

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http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/polnews/news21916.shtml

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#2 Feb 26 2013 at 10:37 PM Rating: Good
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LmAO first ps2 now windows xp. in before the XP only people rage!
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#3 Feb 27 2013 at 12:14 AM Rating: Good
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To be fair, PS2 is only a year and a half older than Windows XP, and Windows XP was only out for six months before FFXI was first beta'd.

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#4 Feb 27 2013 at 12:20 AM Rating: Good
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I don't see this as a problem for most serious PC gamers (as they're probably multi booting anyway). But I do see this as a problem with the people with old PCs. If they were to upgrade, they'd probably check out some of the newer games and let their FFXI subs run out, if/when the XP problems get too serious.
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#5 Feb 27 2013 at 2:25 AM Rating: Excellent
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I hope this means they'll at least try and fix the performance issues with newest gpu drivers and CPU models available.
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So an -old- game, that almost -requires- an old OS to even be able to play on it properly is now having it's support discontinued for it...

They better have a good backup plan for making it operate as smoothly on 7/8 as it does on XP >.>

The only reason my computer is still running on XP is FFXI. Only reason.

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#7 Feb 27 2013 at 5:48 AM Rating: Excellent
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Wow I've had like 4 pc's in the last 9 yrs of playing FFXI.
What's your secret to making them last? I really enjoyed playing on XP and was sad when I went on to vista.
(I am on windows 7 now and it works very well.)

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#8 Feb 27 2013 at 6:20 AM Rating: Good
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The only reason my computer is still running on XP is FFXI. Only reason.


If you're not having problems with running the game on XP then you're probably fine.

They're not cutting off the XP users, they're just going to stop troubleshooting XP issues.
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Janeash wrote:
Wow I've had like 4 pc's in the last 9 yrs of playing FFXI.
What's your secret to making them last? I really enjoyed playing on XP and was sad when I went on to vista.
(I am on windows 7 now and it works very well.)

Have a decade old PC sitting in the other room that's basically been on 24/7 since I got it, only being off with power outages, occasionally moving it, and giving it a good air dusting on occasion. If there's any one secret I can bestow, it'd be to simply not download stupid sh*t like anything some random FB app wants. Laptop owners should probably up it a notch and add, "Don't spill stupid sh*t on it!" to the agenda. Though, I've seen people spill things on towers they keep on the floor, too.

While the above PC is generally used by my family now, I still do frequent checks on it to knock down useless programs they download, annoying toolbars, the usual spy/adware, and heaven forbid a virus. They love grumbling at me about it being slow, but running on 768mb RDRAM in this day and age is just asking for sluggishness on HD videos and the like. So, yeah, lay off the ****, don't click that link in a strange email, and know some deals are really just too good to be true. If you're running through PCs every 2.25 years for reasons not tech upgrades related to work or obsessive gaming, I've really gotta ask what you've been doing.

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I have never really downloaded anything like that on any of my pc's. :(
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#11 Feb 27 2013 at 7:53 AM Rating: Decent
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*sniff* I'm going to miss Windows XP.
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#12 Feb 27 2013 at 8:58 AM Rating: Excellent
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If you're not having problems with running the game on XP then you're probably fine.

They're not cutting off the XP users, they're just going to stop troubleshooting XP issues.

Exactly. People make it sound like they won't be able to play on XP anymore. They're just going to quit supporting it, which they never really did much of in the first place.

I'm sure anybody who wishes to could play FFXI on XP until the last server is taken down.

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#13 Feb 27 2013 at 9:03 AM Rating: Excellent
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Yeah..that's the impression I got when I called Square when I saw no xp on Seekers. They're still supporting it if you got it installed as in it'll work. This just shows they won't support problems.

I'm still working on getting my old computer rebuilt but that's 2-3 months down the pike.
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This is the year I finally stopped coding websites for I.E.6 and was able to truly enjoy the beauty of PNG files, as much as I loved XP as an OS, I have to agree that it's a move in the right direction.

Now... what to do about all these win 2003 servers...
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Now... what to do about all these win 2003 servers...

You can't get rid of yours either, huh?
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So an -old- game, that almost -requires- an old OS to even be able to play on it properly is now having it's support discontinued for it...

They better have a good backup plan for making it operate as smoothly on 7/8 as it does on XP >.>

The only reason my computer is still running on XP is FFXI. Only reason.



I upgraded to 7 the second it was released and have never had an issue with XI. Vista, yea that didn't go so great, but there's no reason you can't run the game on 7.

All that dropping support means is if you can't get the game to run, they aren't going to sit there and troubleshoot with you. This is a pretty common practice. I generally recommend everyone upgrading from XP anyway. If you have an app that won't run on it, you can always use the Windows XP mode that is free with the pro version.

Edited, Feb 27th 2013 2:47pm by Torrence
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So an -old- game, that almost -requires- an old OS to even be able to play on it properly is now having it's support discontinued for it...


I haven't run FFXI on Windows XP since I (stupidly) installed Vista. I had a few problems with Vista, but that was only because it was an unfinished piece of excrement, and I now run it perfectly on Windows 7. Unless I'm running a magical version of Windows 7 which is different from everyone else's I'd say FFXI works pretty **** well on it. A lot of problems are actually caused by newer graphics cards rather than W7.

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*sniff* I'm going to miss Windows XP.


OMG iam dropping windows 8 and going to xp just for that!
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How is windows 8 currantly coping with FFXI?
I am interested incase I need to upgrade in the future.:D
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It runs it without issues 99% of the time.

I get the occasional "Playonline has stopped working" but I got that with 7 too, and it's less than once every two weeks.
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I wonder how this will play out three days after the expansion is released and they need to to start patching all the errors and glitch's that'll come with it.
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So an -old- game, that almost -requires- an old OS to even be able to play on it properly is now having it's support discontinued for it...

'Required OS'

What is this rubbish? I play XI on XP and Win7 64-bit and see no difference at all, what isn't working "properly" here?
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LmAO first ps2 now windows xp. in before the XP only people rage!

In my job we have fully moved to Windows 7, almost 1000 PCs and laptops - although all new equipment came with W7 since its release.

Pain but it has to be done, Microsoft are fully cutting off XP support next year and more companies are jumping ship.
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It runs it without issues 99% of the time.

I get the occasional "Playonline has stopped working" but I got that with 7 too, and it's less than once every two weeks.


Oh lovely I can rest easily then :)
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No probs with Win 8. I have run not had any FF problems.
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KojiroSoma wrote:
So an -old- game, that almost -requires- an old OS to even be able to play on it properly is now having it's support discontinued for it...

They better have a good backup plan for making it operate as smoothly on 7/8 as it does on XP >.>

The only reason my computer is still running on XP is FFXI. Only reason.

Edited, Feb 27th 2013 12:39pm by KojiroSoma


Your PC must seriously suck if you need to keep XP to run XI.
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Windows XP is dying!!!
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KojiroSoma wrote:
So an -old- game, that almost -requires- an old OS to even be able to play on it properly is now having it's support discontinued for it...

They better have a good backup plan for making it operate as smoothly on 7/8 as it does on XP >.>

The only reason my computer is still running on XP is FFXI. Only reason.

Edited, Feb 27th 2013 12:39pm by KojiroSoma


Your PC must seriously suck if you need to keep XP to run XI.


Snarky and unhelpful comments aside, it's quite possible that the PC does suck enough to need XP.

After I got hacked a few years ago, I got a security token and then a separate laptop for FFXI like a lot of people were saying to do for extra protection. The only thing it was used for was XI and I'll be damned if I was going to spend more than what I had in my pocket on a XI-specific laptop.

If I didn't come across a nice laptop with Win7 on a boxing day sale a couple months ago, I'd still be playing on that slow old laptop because on an 11 year old game that's all I needed.

Edited, Mar 4th 2013 10:20pm by TribalProphet
#30 Mar 05 2013 at 1:02 AM Rating: Excellent
This sounds like a good excuse to go out and buy a new computer for me. :D

Altho, I'd like to point out, I'm a PS2/PS3 player, so I'm just using FFXI's lack of support for WinXP as an excuse to buy myself a new MacBook Pro. :3

Edited, Mar 4th 2013 11:03pm by kappachan
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As for the Win 2003 servers, we virtualized most of them to get them off the dying hardware and now we're trying to peel away all the crap they actually had to run.

VMware clusters are surprisingly great for server migration projects - way easier than the bare metal restore I'm going to attempt tomorrow...
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As for the Win 2003 servers, we virtualized most of them to get them off the dying hardware and now we're trying to peel away all the crap they actually had to run.

VMware clusters are surprisingly great for server migration projects - way easier than the bare metal restore I'm going to attempt tomorrow...

Yeah, we're learning that over here. The boss finally sprang for a new server since our main production server is old as dirt and slowly dying, so we're setting up some virtual servers on it. I can't get over how gorramn nice it is to just go "oh we botched the configuration? No worries, just reload the snapshot from before we made a mess of the server" and be back up and running within minutes.

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"But getting an extra server is so expensive and so we thought we could just use the one we already had!"

We've learned that we can throw a lot of things at Windows 7 and it runs it just as good, if not better, than 2008R2. Like camera servers and AV servers. Drop them on a headless workstation and hide it in the server closet. It's cheaper and it helps people resist the temptation to force the system into additional roles, because it can't handle anything else.
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