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#127 Feb 18 2013 at 6:50 PM Rating: Default
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You're almost right... he is calling people idiots and morons, he's just not doing it directly.
I'm sorry, my reading comprehension is a little low, you'll need to point this out for me.


EDIT: Added full quote. Point still stands.

Edited, Feb 18th 2013 8:49pm by xypin
#128 Feb 18 2013 at 7:02 PM Rating: Excellent
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Yeah, you cut off the rest of my sentence there. It's not reading comprehension that's your issue; it's reading between the lines.
#129 Feb 18 2013 at 7:07 PM Rating: Default
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Direct or not, he's being just as insulting as I am.


Direct quotes, or are you as full of it as he is.
#130 Feb 18 2013 at 7:23 PM Rating: Good
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Ok, I'll quote something I see as indirectly insulting.

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Exactly, so you don't know how much the PC version sucks compared to the PS2 version, because all you ever play on is your precious PC :P


I see the mere phrasing of this insulting. It's clearly sarcastic, and I see it as him saying to whoever he was referring that they are blindly loyal to something and unable to comprehend anything better than it despite the facts which, ironically, is exactly what he's doing, and I believe was also the point of the post to which his response was referencing.

Like I said, indirect, but to me equally real and just as insulting. If I was a real wuss I could hide behind the 'this is my opinion' card and shield myself from basically any response you have to this, but I'm not going to, and I welcome your opinions on if you think this is a veiled insult or not.
#131 Feb 18 2013 at 7:29 PM Rating: Good
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if you go out and buy a normal PC, it will barely play anything, until you spend thousands of dollars custom-building a "gaming PC


No, if you go out and buy a normal PC it will cost you thousands of dollars and barely play anything, because the places that sell electronics sell cheap **** for much more than it's worth. People like you are the reason big box stores can sell mid-tier Samsung and Sony for the same price of buying their top models online. People like you are the reason Bose and Dre and Beats are 90% of the headphone market, while gaming headsets are another 5%.

If I wanted to go out and buy a gaming PC for somebody who didn't want to spend a lot of money I could find something better than what the next gen of consoles is going to be for under $800. That's not going to have a huge system overhead, you can plug any controller you want into it, play it on your TV, whatever. Custom built? By me? Maybe $500, and it would be tuned, ready to go.

So what's the real difference between people like you (the vast majority) and people like me (small minority)? Some of us take offense to being treated like idiots when all it takes on our part is a little bit of time and an even smaller amount of research. You seem to revel in your own stupidity.
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#132 Feb 18 2013 at 7:33 PM Rating: Default
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You responded to the challenge instead of to a challenge. So don't see any kind of
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veiled insult or not.


I can see how that quote could come off as sarcastic. Being text though its anyone's call, and the :P at the end of it tends to be a light hearted notation. He is right that if you only have exposure to one thing you really don't know. No, I do not agree that the graphics and what a pc can handle is inferior to a ps2. 9 years ago I prefered the ps2 because I had that ****** of a pc.

Personally don't see it as an indirect insult on his end. Reading it already heatted about his personal claims though I get what you meant.
#133 Feb 18 2013 at 7:45 PM Rating: Good
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He is correct in a very minor way that, in theory, if you have experience in one thing and one thing only then you are unlikely to know any better about anything else. However, I disagree that this is true when comparing PS2 to PC in regards to FFXI. You do not necessarily need to own the PS2 version of FFXI to know that it's going to be inferior nowadays. I never owned the PS2 version yet I know of the problems it has face/does face atm. I know what it can do, graphically and otherwise, and any mediocre PC can outperform it. Also, he made his comment based on the assumption that the poster had never played the PS2 version... which was promptly corrected.

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Even if trolling, your stupid assumption betrays you. I had the PS2 version when it came out for my brother to play with me. It was garbage.


I, personally, can see no other way of reading that sentence as an insult based off of faulty assumptions (as well as being slightly defensive).

Edit: I rated you up because you didn't sound like an *** =P

Edited, Feb 18th 2013 8:46pm by Diamondis
#134 Feb 18 2013 at 8:03 PM Rating: Good
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I agree, any pc now whether for gaming or not can run the game nicely. I play on a ****** 5 year old laptop. It does what I want and need so not looking to upgrade now. His assumption made the proverbial *** out of him. While I have some dislike for what Raelix, not much as he is knowledgeable player, post what you quoted him saying I found no fault with. He did respond with "your stupid assumption" but it was directed at the assumption not Zelduh.

Like Xyplin said, directly insulting him as you originally did was rude. Disagree or even hate it all you want just try to stay civil about it man.
#135 Feb 18 2013 at 8:28 PM Rating: Decent
saying you like ps2 ver.. sure np that your opinion but when you start saying ps2 is way better then pc ffxi that a flat out lie. soon or later ps2 life was going to die anyways. at this point the dude is just trolling you all. he knows that ps2 cant keep up with a pc now. this is going to turn into the Boomerang vs bow. the dude was trolling the hell out them guys. this is no different

if you like your ps2 so much then fine. is it better then pc? no. is they dropping support? yes, it slowly happening. and stop crying about not having seeker pack for it while the pc/xbox got it.

also if you like gaming systems so much then buy a freaking xbox360
#136 Feb 18 2013 at 8:42 PM Rating: Decent
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I didn't mean Raelix was being insulting. I was still talking about Zelduh, and the final sentence was in reference to Zelduh's comment, not Raelix's.

I consider my insults to be valid and as civil as insults can be. I could've called him many, many worse things than stupid, after all... but I didn't. I called him stupid and I stand by that, and I will until he at least accepts that there's at least chance he may be incorrect. My insults are at least supported by this entire thread full of evidence against all his claims, and yet he soldiers on instead of holding his hands up or just stopping. If I'd called him a ****sucker I would've considered it rude and unfair since I have no evidence that he sucks ****.

This is a pointless avenue to go down, though, as we see differently on what constitutes as acceptable insults. Probably best to just stop here and agree that we have different opinions. See, I can do that with this topic because there's no way to quantify what we're discussing... unlike Zelduh's futile argument.

Edit: Though I will end my part in saying that, although I have no problem with xypin, I do still find it hypocritical that (s)he's OK with an entire thread devoted to calling this guy wrong, stupid, retarded, etc. just because it brings life to a slow forum, yet my post somehow crossed a boundary.

Edited, Feb 18th 2013 9:49pm by Diamondis
#137 Feb 18 2013 at 10:49 PM Rating: Excellent
Accurate descriptions are more fun than insults.

People like Zelduh are the sorts who keep people like me gainfully employed in tech support.

Edited, Feb 18th 2013 11:49pm by catwho
#139 Feb 19 2013 at 7:50 AM Rating: Excellent
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When this many people step in to call you a ******* idiot for something you said, you might wanna reconsider your position and attitude.

But since this happens once every few months, I don't expect that to happen.
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#140 Feb 19 2013 at 9:25 AM Rating: Excellent
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Is this the thread that's been over for two pages but everyone is trying to get the last word in mindlessly?
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#141 Feb 19 2013 at 12:11 PM Rating: Excellent
Zelduh is simply trolling, same way he is on the PUP forums.

Do not feed the troll.
#142 Feb 19 2013 at 1:55 PM Rating: Excellent
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Awww come on! How can you say no to this face!?

http://i413.photobucket.com/albums/pp214/KeiFreeman/FFXI/troll.jpg

Edited, Feb 19th 2013 2:56pm by Camiie
#143 Feb 19 2013 at 6:52 PM Rating: Excellent
Since this has derailed by such a staggering degree, I'm locking this.
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#144 Feb 19 2013 at 6:53 PM Rating: Good
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PC is not a gaming platform!
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