Fyn ranty thread #9001: LiarsFollow

More specifically, people who lie about being prepared for something when they're actually not, just so other people will stick around and help them.

Recent example of mine: Shouting for LB10 help.
Don't tell me you have a rarab tail when you actually don't, just to try to get me to help you.

You will be wasting your time and the time of everyone else you invite, but most importantly of all, you will be wasting my time.
It's that last bit there that's really unforgivable and will make me wish you never pass level 95.

Any related stories to share? Surely I can't be the only one who's dealt with something like this.

The worst is when you tell them ahead of time you don't have a lot of time, but if it's something that can be done in 30 minutes, then sure.

10 minutes later they're asking for a teleport to get to the first of five cutscenes.

Think the following pretty much sums up my prior endgame LS experience:
"Be there at 8pm!"
8:20pm rolls around...
"Okay, we're all here, let's go!"

It painfully reminds me of dealing with my father where in the past he'd have to pick me up from school at certain times, only to be a half hour or more late religiously. It eventually got to the point where I started telling him 30m earlier than when I finished whatever, and sometimes I still wound up waiting. Needless to say, my driver's license couldn't come fast enough.

Yea, eventually I just stopped offering myself up unless I knew I had a big chunk of time to devote. I don't think that people do it on purpose though, they just sometimes don't properly gauge how long a task is going to take.

I wanted to do an assult.. got invited.. sweet...
guy said "i dont have that staging point how do you get there?"
me.. "im out"

It's different when you know it's a newbie.

When it's someone who is on his third job to level 99, though...

This one time there was a guy who wanted help with a quest, but he didn't know what Google was so he didn't know exactly what to do for the quest. I was so mad I kicked a cat over a fence.

Yeah had something similar happen trying to help someone with Fenir battle last week, they were anon so couldn't see rank but asked liked 5 times if they could get into Toraimarai Canal and of course we get there and turns out they cant open gate and stuck waiting for an hour to get some one to come open it.

The points you make are a bit irrelevant in regards to the instances that everyone else has mentioned. In Fynlar's case, the person legitimately lied to him to get his help, and the other instances people were referring to were instances of the players shouting for help on something, then making them wait as they're progressing through the quest line, especially when those that came to help had a limited amount of time. Walkthrough or not, it's rude to get help for something, then make them wait for you to get to the point where you need their help.

It's one thing if something comes up in the middle of what you're doing where you've got no choice but to drop what you're doing and tend to it (i.e. the case of the grandmother), but it's another matter entirely to say that you're prepared for something when asked in order to get help for it, then when you've actually convinced them to help you, you turn around and admit you weren't prepared at all. I understand completely when something pops up in real life, and I'd expect/hope they'd get up and leave the game to take care of that, but that's not what people are arguing about. They're talking about people not bothering to check to see if they're properly prepared for an event, or just blatantly lying to get help. It's just common courtesy to not keep people waiting if you can help it, which is what Fyn and everyone else was complaining about.

Myri, would you be more receptive to help someone if they were honest with you about how prepared they were for the fight, or if they lied about how prepared they were (saying they were more prepared than they were) only for you to find out as soon as you agreed to help them?

+1

If I am late, go without me and it doesnt matter.

Been too many to describe, "We are leaving now" tends to mean "Come join us and go do your CS's and get your KIs while we wait".
I remember the old days of End game events starting at 6pm, Gather time 5:30PM. 6:30 "Sorry I am late, can you wait for me".
A few of us left a well known linkshell because we planned our own run to gain access to Sky, we got a few LS members along and ended up shouting at times to fill the party. Once the leader got on "Why didnt you make it an LS Event!!" What he actually meant was "Why cant we take all the level 30's - Snk/Invis every single one of them so they have access before they are level 75". As a result of us just doing it, we managed to get sky access in a very short amount of time. We made it clear we wasnt prepared to wait (unless we stated).

It does only take a second to /tell "Can I go get my CS's, KI's or anything else needed". Not just say CAN I COME!.

Moments like all the above is exactly why I am happy the way the game is in regards to no longer needing full parties or alliances to accomplish anything. In a full week of game play I find my self doing 6 months worth a few years back.

I can't be sure, but I think he's trying to be comical. Either that or just clearing a blockage.

It wasn't funny in your first post, and it's not funny in this one, either.

I want my job to be DRK, not WAR+1.

All the people (yes, all three of you) getting trolled by Myri's obviously sarcastic post(s) is hilarious to me.

Except from Vlor, I see him get trolled all the time here so by now I kind of expect it :s

Edited, Jan 28th 2013 4:43pm by Fynlar