You were helped at one point too, and you didnt know your *** from the whole in ground either. You were just as much as a nuisance as what you complain about now.
**** right you are hypocrites. You hit your plateau, you are the king of the game. You fought for a forum that welcomed people. Instead you sh*t on people who don't live up to your 10 year standards.
As for shutting down the boards. No. I just found it humorous that the very people who sought to restore order to the forums, are the very ones that berate those they sought to restore order for.
You make me laugh. Lets have a noob friendly community...so we can sh*t on them about asking the same questions. "LRN 2 Google Noob!".
Wow you really torched that strawman. Good Job!
Tl;dr Being an willfully-ignorant, dishonest **** is not a behavior to condone.
I got nothing against people who want to learn. You know what shows you want to learn? Taking the time to at least glance at what something requires, or being honest that you haven't. At that point, I can choose to help you with what you actually need help with, instead of joining under false pretenses.
Funny thing is, we're not talking about brand new people to the game (where do I level from 10+), nor anyone on this forum. No one here has mentioned anything about "asking questions" or "knowing everything about everything FFXI by rote". (See, this is your strawman)
These are people doing generally higher level events (LB10, VW, Abyssea), who either directly lie to get your help, or lie indirectly by failing to mention that "Hey I'm forming a group for XYZ but I expect someone to hold my hand through it, because I can't be assed to do anything for myself". (Other common gripe is general event tardiness which I notice you've got nothing to say about... you don't wanna play devil's advocate here too?)
As for me, personally, yes there have been times when I've gotten assistance, and **** I'll even go so far as to say I've had my hand held through a few things. Some differences here: I didn't lie that I was prepared when I wasn't, if I didn't know what I was doing I said so, and I didn't imply I knew what I was doing by forming a group for something hoping that someone else will do/have done the learning for me.
If anyone is being berated, it has nothing to do with "10 year standards", and everything to do with "normal standards of human interaction". Ever helped someone move? If someone asks you to help them move, do you expect that they will be ready be moved when you come to help, or would you be totally cool with someone asking you to help them move, then them expecting you to come and pack their house, break down their furniture and hire the moving van. Or if we want to keep it to just "time-wasters" how about you set up a group of friends to have a paintball match on Saturday, then once everyone is gathered and ready to go you say "OK so guys where do I buy a paintball gun and gear?". People who organize events (which is what shouting for group _is_) are expected to be prepared to host said event. People who join an event with a given criteria are expected to meet that criteria (have your paintball gear ready). This is a pretty basic personal interaction thing, and just because you're behind a computer monitor or because its a game doesn't make you less of a **** when you fail at humanness.
Once again, if this thread helps one newbie recognize that being prepared makes people like to group with you, and lying/failing makes people blacklist you, then it's likely done more good then the last 10 "Hey guys what server should I join/how do I level/what's abyssea" threads combined. It's easy to forget that those other 2-18 names in your party list are also people sitting at a computer (just like you!), and not everyone is there to cater to your whims, and let you walk all over them. That's the best lesson anyone can learn by far, and makes this forum far more "noob friendly" than "here let me wiki/repost the answer for you".