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#1 Jan 25 2013 at 3:43 AM Rating: Good
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Ladies and gentlemen!

The event that adventurers' dreams are made of—the Mog Bonanza—has made its glorious return!

Without a doubt, linkshells throughout Vana'diel will buzz as adventuring comrades discuss the extravagant prizes they've set their sights upon, the numbers they'll employ to usher in their fortunes, and how they'll flaunt their winnings.

Learn how your dreams might be made reality via the Mog Bonanza!

*Bonanza marbles will be available for purchase from Tuesday, January 29, 2013, at 12:00 a.m.
*Please remember that all prizes won in the Mog Bonanza are valueless virtual items for use in the game FINAL FANTASY XI only. Prizes cannot be transferred to another player in exchange for real-world money without violating the PlayOnline Member Agreement and risking termination of the accounts of all parties involved
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#2 Jan 25 2013 at 4:24 AM Rating: Decent
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Rank 1 = mythic
Rank 2 = cat's eye mythic
Rank 3 = Ker's cuirass, unless I can figure out the amount of gil rank 3 would be worth, if that's a decent enough amount I could be convinced to take that instead
Rank 4 = Ark (something besides the scythe)
Rank 5 = AA statue that I don't have
Rank 6 = tough choice but I think I'd go with the mog missile
#3 Jan 25 2013 at 4:54 AM Rating: Good
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rank 4:wyrm bears for all!
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#4 Jan 25 2013 at 5:48 AM Rating: Excellent
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What's a wyrm bear? Is that anything like a jelly baby?
#5 Jan 25 2013 at 9:32 AM Rating: Excellent
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The rules say a character must be created 32 days prior to purchasing marbles. That means you can create mules today and be able to purchase marbles before the sales period ends.
#6 Jan 25 2013 at 10:25 AM Rating: Good
According to this go round's bonanza, I already have two Rank I worthy prizes in my possession - Ghallarjorn and Sagasinger.

Sad thing is, Sagasinger is just a toy. I mean, it's fun to play with, but I wouldn't waste a Rank I coupon on it.

Soooo:
1. Mythic
2. Gil (I still need my 99 Ghorn)
3. Sigyn's Cuirie. Probably.
4. Behemoth Tongue.
5. Another statue to send to a mule
#7 Jan 25 2013 at 12:20 PM Rating: Good
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Is it just me or does the selection of rewards seem crappier this year? Pulse cells? Come on, that's blerg. Also where does some of this stuff actually come from? Like the Mass Chalemie?

1. Mythic or Dharp
2. Probably gil
3. probably gil, maybe Ker's Cuirass cause it looks nifty
4. meh. Maybe the Mass Chalemie, not because it is particularly special but cause I don't have it and I am a brd.
5. one of the battlefield items.
#8 Jan 25 2013 at 1:18 PM Rating: Good
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catwho wrote:
According to this go round's bonanza, I already have two Rank I worthy prizes in my possession - Ghallarjorn and Sagasinger.

Sad thing is, Sagasinger is just a toy. I mean, it's fun to play with, but I wouldn't waste a Rank I coupon on it.

Soooo:
1. Mythic
2. Gil (I still need my 99 Ghorn)
Assuming it's your main character, the only choices for Rank 1 and Rank 2 are mythic and Cats Eye, respectively. Let's see, 450m-600m worth of alexandrite (granted you can't sell or transfer it) or 4.6m gil...
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#9 Jan 25 2013 at 1:28 PM Rating: Good
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What's a wyrm bear? Is that anything like a jelly baby?


Is that a typo for warm beer? {Run Away!}
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#10 Jan 25 2013 at 3:09 PM Rating: Excellent
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Assuming it's your main character, the only choices for Rank 1 and Rank 2 are mythic and Cats Eye, respectively. Let's see, 450m-600m worth of alexandrite (granted you can't sell or transfer it) or 4.6m gil...


Is it just 4.6 mil? Really?

Either way, can anyone imagine someone being fool enough to use a rank 2 prize to get empy AF3+2?

I can't even...

I don't see how that is worthy of a rank 2 prize.
#11 Jan 25 2013 at 3:26 PM Rating: Decent
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Iron Chef Olorinus wrote:

Either way, can anyone imagine someone being fool enough to use a rank 2 prize to get empy AF3+2?


Without a doubt. In fact, I expect them to post on this forum that they did so and for 80% of the posters to reply "derp" and 20% to reply "It's their gil they can do what they want."
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Iron Chef Olorinus wrote:
Either way, can anyone imagine someone being fool enough to use a rank 2 prize to get empy AF3+2?

About as bad as somebody blowing that Tier 1 Nomad Bonanza win on a pre-Heavy Metal stage Empy weapon.

Didn't that actually happen? Or did it end up being an Aymur or something? I forget...
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#14 Jan 25 2013 at 7:13 PM Rating: Good
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Raelix wrote:
Iron Chef Olorinus wrote:
Either way, can anyone imagine someone being fool enough to use a rank 2 prize to get empy AF3+2?

About as bad as somebody blowing that Tier 1 Nomad Bonanza win on a pre-Heavy Metal stage Empy weapon.

Didn't that actually happen? Or did it end up being an Aymur or something? I forget...
It was allegedly a yoichi.
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#16 Jan 25 2013 at 7:59 PM Rating: Decent
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Ah right. The 'I already have a relic but don't want to level another DD' relic.
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#17 Jan 25 2013 at 8:49 PM Rating: Excellent
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Seriously like every update announcement has been of the form "The [newish content] comes [verb]ing in!" It's like they literally don't have any idea how else to announce something, and just keep editing the old line of text with slightly new words.

It's just bothering me, that's all.
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#19 Jan 25 2013 at 11:00 PM Rating: Good
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... yeah, alot of the prizes are pretty gimp.
Why empy armor? It should be NNI floor 100 or neo salvage armor.. or legion or meebles boss drops... or the HQ abjurations like Khepri or Huginn.
Empy armor is just silly.

HUGE lol at level 90 Empy weapons too...
How is a free weapon equal to a 450 mil weapon?
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Xilk wrote:
How is a free weapon equal to a 450 mil weapon?


Let's break this down, do you go out of your way to help EVERYONE that asks for help with 85 - 90 progression on some of the Empys? I.e The Khim paths, especially post Abyssea craze? Especially for people who can't brew it constantly or just started the game and working their way through all of this?

You'll be lying if you say yes. That's who pick the weapons in prizes because not everyone was or is lucky enough to get the supposed "free weapon".
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About as bad as somebody blowing that Tier 1 Nomad Bonanza win on a pre-Heavy Metal stage Empy weapon.

Didn't that actually happen? Or did it end up being an Aymur or something? I forget...

JP winner picked an Aymur, NA winner picked a Yoichi
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Xilk wrote:
How is a free weapon equal to a 450 mil weapon?


Let's break this down, do you go out of your way to help EVERYONE that asks for help with 85 - 90 progression on some of the Empys? I.e The Khim paths, especially post Abyssea craze? Especially for people who can't brew it constantly or just started the game and working their way through all of this?

You'll be lying if you say yes. That's who pick the weapons in prizes because not everyone was or is lucky enough to get the supposed "free weapon".


Such a lovely condescending attitude w/ no substance...

Everyone can brew constantly. You cash solo farm enough cruor to brew any nm.

There is a time investment to a level 90 empy weapon, however the investment to collect all the ancient currency, or alexandrite for a mythic or relic weapon dwarves the time to make a level 90 empty.

The empycost is balanced (sort of) in the next 2 trials. The bonanza rewards imply that these are equal level rewards when they are obviously not.

I have spelled it out in crayola now, what was obvious before and matched the response attitude to boot!
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#23 Jan 28 2013 at 7:06 AM Rating: Excellent
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Don't get me started on how ridiculous the requirements are in the first place to get a mythic. Even though the worst part is 30k alexandrite, there's a whole lot more to the picture.
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Xilk wrote:
Theonehio wrote:
Xilk wrote:
How is a free weapon equal to a 450 mil weapon?


Let's break this down, do you go out of your way to help EVERYONE that asks for help with 85 - 90 progression on some of the Empys? I.e The Khim paths, especially post Abyssea craze? Especially for people who can't brew it constantly or just started the game and working their way through all of this?

You'll be lying if you say yes. That's who pick the weapons in prizes because not everyone was or is lucky enough to get the supposed "free weapon".


Such a lovely condescending attitude w/ no substance...

Everyone can brew constantly. You cash solo farm enough cruor to brew any nm.

Actually, no, they can't, as he already mentioned, players (like me) who haven't done the Abby grind to gear up can't solo farm 200k per brew, and don't see ever being able to do so. Abby to new players is largely closed, people these days don't have the patience while newcomers learn the arcane and highly convoluted mechanics Abby requires one to know off by heart.

His tone was valid.


Edited, Jan 28th 2013 9:51am by Kragorn
#25 Jan 28 2013 at 9:02 AM Rating: Excellent
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Xilk wrote:
How is a free weapon equal to a 450 mil weapon?


Let's break this down, do you go out of your way to help EVERYONE that asks for help with 85 - 90 progression on some of the Empys? I.e The Khim paths, especially post Abyssea craze? Especially for people who can't brew it constantly or just started the game and working their way through all of this?

You'll be lying if you say yes. That's who pick the weapons in prizes because not everyone was or is lucky enough to get the supposed "free weapon".


Xilk is correct to an extent though, at least in regards to choosing a Mythic vs. an Empyrean. Once you've obtained the level 75 version of a Mythic weapon, you're pretty much past the biggest hurdle of getting it to level 99. The 30,000 alexandrite, the 100,000 ampoules needed for the Balrahn's Eyepatch, the 150,000 Nyzul tokens, the three ToAU beastmen kings, the four Salvage bosses, and a full clear of all Assaults lie there before you can even obtain the weapon. That's an extraordinarily large amount of time and gil to devote to one weapon, but once you have said weapon, the trials to obtain the level 99 version are arguably the easiest of the three "ultimate weapon" types.

On the other hand, look at Empyrean weapons. While it's dependent a bit on the jobs available to you and the one you're doing, making the level 80 version could take you a couple days to make if you wanted to, and the 85 version another day or so after. Granted, the 90 version can be a bit more arduous depending on the path, but even that can be taken care of in a couple days if you handle it casually. The lv. 80-90 NMs you need to kill for the items to upgrade drop +2 Empyrean armor items, and the lv. 85 and lv. 90 version mobs have NMs involved that drop +1 Empyrean seals, so there's plenty of incentive for others if you wanted to do shouts.

If you don't have the help to make an Empyrean weapon, then you're going to have an even harder time making a Mythic weapon, since there is far more time involved there with events that absolutely cannot be soloed, and then there's the incredibly high price tag due to the Alexandrite (420 million given conservative estimates on my server). Once they obtain that Mythic weapon though, the majority of their troubles are over. Yes, the ZNM tier IVs can take a bit to farm the pop sets for, and it will take you a few days to do the Salvage bosses, but the only difficult part left would be the Mulcibar's Scoria from Pandemonium Warden for the level 99 version. With the Empyrean weapons, getting to lv. 90 is the easy part. It'll take you either an extremely long amount of time farming up the plates yourself, or 150 million gil for plates alone. Then you have to include the Riftdross or Riftcinder for the 99 version, which is another 27-60 million (again, my server's numbers), and you can see that the big hurdle for a 99 Empyrean would still lie ahead for those that pick an Empyrean weapon from the Mog Bonanza.

Granted, Abyssea nowadays is starting to die down a bit, but I still see plenty of individuals in there all the time farming up seals and +2 items, and I'm certain that they'd be willing to help if someone was there doing the same mobs for Empyrean items. Cruor farming is a thing of the past, so brewing is a bit limited, but I personally don't believe that finding help for making them is.

Edited, Jan 28th 2013 10:14am by Vlorsutes
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#26 Jan 28 2013 at 9:24 AM Rating: Good
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Kragorn wrote:
Xilk wrote:
Theonehio wrote:
Xilk wrote:
How is a free weapon equal to a 450 mil weapon?


Let's break this down, do you go out of your way to help EVERYONE that asks for help with 85 - 90 progression on some of the Empys? I.e The Khim paths, especially post Abyssea craze? Especially for people who can't brew it constantly or just started the game and working their way through all of this?

You'll be lying if you say yes. That's who pick the weapons in prizes because not everyone was or is lucky enough to get the supposed "free weapon".


Such a lovely condescending attitude w/ no substance...

Everyone can brew constantly. You cash solo farm enough cruor to brew any nm.

Actually, no, they can't, as he already mentioned, players (like me) who haven't done the Abby grind to gear up can't solo farm 200k per brew, and don't see ever being able to do so. Abby to new players is largely closed, people these days don't have the patience while newcomers learn the arcane and highly convoluted mechanics Abby requires one to know off by heart.

His tone was valid.


Edited, Jan 28th 2013 9:51am by Kragorn


I still see shouts for abby exp parties, seal farming parties and wiki has it all out lined and easy to understand.
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