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#27 Jan 25 2013 at 11:55 PM Rating: Decent
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Well, can't brew lock anymore either, so you'll need more cruor for brews. It's also still used to buy teleports, voidwatch items, temps etc in abyssea.

In short, it's less useful overall than it used to be, but it's a lot more balanced.


Just curious, but did they fix NPC buff/debuff lockouts in general? It's kind of weird to simply fix it just for brewing.
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#28 Jan 26 2013 at 12:40 AM Rating: Good
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Zafire wrote:
Iron Chef Olorinus wrote:
Well, can't brew lock anymore either, so you'll need more cruor for brews. It's also still used to buy teleports, voidwatch items, temps etc in abyssea.

In short, it's less useful overall than it used to be, but it's a lot more balanced.
Just curious, but did they fix NPC buff/debuff lockouts in general? It's kind of weird to simply fix it just for brewing.
I believe it was fixed for all "buffs" and was aimed towards brews and Tabula Rasa.
#29 Jan 26 2013 at 1:08 AM Rating: Good
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It fixed "stopping time" for all buffs and anything else that was frozen before. For example, checking chests in abyssea with a cor roll on you would freeze the roll whereas now it doesn't. Same goes for auto-refresh from traits or atmas now as well. Before any regen/refresh/regain would freeze, but now will keep building as you check chests or talk to npcs outside abyssea.

A minor downside to this is not being able to talk to npcs to freeze poison, bio, etc while waiting for a friend to get in range to take dots off at low levels. Of course, losing evp isn't an issue until past 30 now, and dying in general isn't an issue like it used to be.
#30 Jan 26 2013 at 2:46 AM Rating: Decent
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I used it to keep myself alive from poison as a low level a lot, back when it did twice your max health. Just click an NPC and go afk or something, hoping a passerby healed you by the time you got back. Was a good time to get stuff done :P

Edited, Jan 26th 2013 3:47am by Zafire
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#31 Jan 26 2013 at 8:16 AM Rating: Good
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As far as parsing VW, I've only ever seen it used so some d-bag who never bothers to proc can wag his epeen and berate everyone else for their alleged lack of damage. So while it can be used for good, I've only ever seen it used for evil.
#32 Jan 26 2013 at 8:49 AM Rating: Good
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As far as parsing VW, I've only ever seen it used so some d-bag who never bothers to proc can wag his epeen and berate everyone else for their alleged lack of damage.


Pretty much this
#33 Jan 26 2013 at 9:23 AM Rating: Excellent
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As far as parsing VW, I've only ever seen it used so some d-bag who never bothers to proc can wag his epeen and berate everyone else for their alleged lack of damage. So while it can be used for good, I've only ever seen it used for evil.


Someone in the party used it on a Bismarck I was leading when I asked if the party should do march march min mad or march march mad mad (this was before dharp was common). It helped us pinpoint that the party was having ACC issues and adjust accordingly.
#34 Jan 26 2013 at 11:49 AM Rating: Excellent
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Camiie wrote:
As far as parsing VW, I've only ever seen it used so some d-bag who never bothers to proc can wag his epeen and berate everyone else for their alleged lack of damage. So while it can be used for good, I've only ever seen it used for evil.
It's almost impossible to give constructive criticism in this game. This is why those that do parse smartly only discuss the results with their linkshell/friends and not random pick up groups.
#35 Jan 26 2013 at 4:15 PM Rating: Decent
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As far as parsing VW, I've only ever seen it used so some d-bag who never bothers to proc can wag his epeen and berate everyone else for their alleged lack of damage.


Pretty much this


Umm considering you've been in alliance when I've done Morta, and I always parse at least the first two to three fights, you've definitely been in a situation where parsing has been used properly.

That being said, I rarely discuss details inside party chat and prefer to use /tells. Unless someone specifically requests the info be put out there.

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As far as parsing VW, I've only ever seen it used so some d-bag who never bothers to proc can wag his epeen and berate everyone else for their alleged lack of damage. So while it can be used for good, I've only ever seen it used for evil.


Maybe you don't do the high end voidwatchs or are in the back line. That "alleged lack of damage" is win or lose. The higher end T6 / Bismark / Morta / Prov NMs all have "f*ck you, you lose" TP moves. The longer they live the lower your chance of winning, especially once buffs start wearing. If it's not dead (or almost) by the time songs and rolls start to go then your damage is going to grind to a halt, and then it'll be spamming stupid damage / status effect moves, fanatics will be down and your procs will grind to a halt unless your incredibly lucky. Over time stupid procs like "PUP JA, BST pet JA, HV Dark Nin" and such will start accumulating along with a horde of BLU and SMN procs. WS procs take forever to do and are generally not worth it unless it's an HV / EV. All these things conspire to make voidwatch a "make it dead now" rush fight.

Now if we're talking about Pil / Akvan / Kaggen spam, or even LL fights, then it's stupid easy.

Edited, Jan 26th 2013 10:22pm by saevellakshmi
#36 Jan 26 2013 at 4:59 PM Rating: Decent
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Dantedmc wrote:
Camiie wrote:
As far as parsing VW, I've only ever seen it used so some d-bag who never bothers to proc can wag his epeen and berate everyone else for their alleged lack of damage. So while it can be used for good, I've only ever seen it used for evil.


Someone in the party used it on a Bismarck I was leading when I asked if the party should do march march min mad or march march mad mad (this was before dharp was common). It helped us pinpoint that the party was having ACC issues and adjust accordingly.


That's .5% of the time it's used, congrats on finding it. However, the other 99.5% is to stroke e-peens and have pissing contests.
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Umm considering you've been in alliance when I've done Morta, and I always parse at least the first two to three fights, you've definitely been in a situation where parsing has been used properly.

That being said, I rarely discuss details inside party chat and prefer to use /tells. Unless someone specifically requests the info be put out there.


That's probably why I wasn't aware of it Smiley: tongue


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Maybe you don't do the high end voidwatchs or are in the back line. That "alleged lack of damage" is win or lose. The higher end T6 / Bismark / Morta / Prov NMs all have "f*ck you, you lose" TP moves. The longer they live the lower your chance of winning, especially once buffs start wearing. If it's not dead (or almost) by the time songs and rolls start to go then your damage is going to grind to a halt, and then it'll be spamming stupid damage / status effect moves, fanatics will be down and your procs will grind to a halt unless your incredibly lucky. Over time stupid procs like "PUP JA, BST pet JA, HV Dark Nin" and such will start accumulating along with a horde of BLU and SMN procs. WS procs take forever to do and are generally not worth it unless it's an HV / EV. All these things conspire to make voidwatch a "make it dead now" rush fight.

Now if we're talking about Pil / Akvan / Kaggen spam, or even LL fights, then it's stupid easy.


I have seen the most parse epeening at Qilin, and he's kind of a wuss.

Edited, Jan 26th 2013 7:33pm by Fynlar
#38 Jan 27 2013 at 2:14 AM Rating: Decent
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I have seen the most parse epeening at Qilin, and he's kind of a wuss.


Yeah that's just f*ckers stroking their epeen. That or their trying to point out to someone in a not-so-subtle way to stop watching TV.
#39 Jan 27 2013 at 10:49 AM Rating: Default
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Catwho wrote:

I think that's why, actually, SE didn't really worry to much about the chocobo blinkers until the RMT started doing it.


Crap, I knew it was going to happen.. I was trying to get my first relic upgrade..... Now, another way to find money :(... Can't there be a way to determine who's a bot or not? sheesh....
#40 Jan 28 2013 at 2:49 PM Rating: Good
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saevellakshmi wrote:

That's not the parsers problem, though sometimes they can be idiots.


Agreed, I wouldn't care if someone is parsing, that doesn't bother me and I see the use of it. However this was a "so and so won" type of parser... which is not a helpful individual on akvan, since obvs, killing it faster is not what is needed. I got nothing but junk that run, when usually I walk away with a couple plates at the least. Bad luck? Sure, but our lights weren't capping because the DDs were so busy trying to "win" that the rest of us lost.

It's amazing how much crappier akvan groups seem to be getting overall these days. Meanwhile I was in a Kalusutrax group and a group doing that AU path imp, and it went waaaay smoother than some akvan runs I've done lately. Which is hilarious. But I guess the dregs have worked their way up to akvan. One day I'll get the drop. One day.

It sort of sucks being blu/pld at times because really other than hitting your procs there is nothing you can do to stop a run from going sour. Too gimped to be much use.
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