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#1 Dec 18 2012 at 2:50 PM Rating: Excellent
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Akihiko Matsui wrote:

I spoke to the Salvage lead about the plans for future adjustments.

As a result of our discussion, since we have implemented the higher-tier Salvage expansion, we decided to increase the drop rates on equipment that could be obtained in the previous salvage areas.

Also, in addition to the above adjustment, we will be making changes to the Bhaflau Remnants so that equipment will not drop only from the NMs that Reactionary Ramparts spawn, but the regular monsters it spawns as well.

Due to the fact that increasing the NM spawn rate would affect the yield of Alexandrite, we will be keeping cotton purses and higher equipment drops rates as special bonuses for defeating the NM, but will be implementing these changes with the objective of increasing the chances to obtain equipment.


http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/29259-Is-anyone-particularly-happy-with-the-new-gear-from-New-Salvage?p=387621#post387621

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Rather than make individual topics for every response Matsui makes, I'll use this thread to compile his responses.

Akihiko Matsui wrote:

Hello, Matsui here.

Thank you for all of your posts.

I have spoken with the lead developers for Meeble Burrows and received some comments I would like to share with you.

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With the most recent version update, users now receive more research marks based on having more users as part of their group. I believe that presenting larger groups with bonuses and increased item counts and records is a good adjustment, but increasing research marks is going too far. I think that research marks are essentially being given out for free.


By increasing the amount of research marks being given to larger groups, our goal is to encourage users to cooperate with others. The following are comments from a couple of users that capture the ideas we had envisioned for this content:

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Let’s gather 6 players regardless of job, come up with a plan and have some fun!

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I usually go with a group of 4, but since we would get more points if we had 6, I want to find 2 more players.


There are more detailed explanations behind this adjustment, but the above two comments capture our reasoning well. We feel that this content has a good flow to it now, so we will be leaving it as is for the time being.

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Since I usually play in a group of 3, I didn’t get a strong sense that we are getting a lot more research marks after the recent version update. However, I did get very excited looking at the trading list for wizened worms. I understand that this is simply a bonus element, but I would really like to see Powder Boots on that list. More than that, I would be extremely happy to see Dervish Sword on that list. (In actuality, I only got fish bones both times. lol)

This leads me to my question: are the probabilities for this content the same for all users? For example, as a WHM I earned 21 worms, but a WAR was able to earn 43 worms and 6 morions in the same program. Will the WAR have a better chance because of the higher number of worms, or will the probabilities be the same? Maybe I shouldn’t focus so much on bonus content, but I would really like to know.


The probabilities are all random.

We did think about rewarding users based on their results, but we decided to make the probabilities all the same so that users can enjoy this content without worrying about which job they are playing with.

As you said, this is bonus content after all.

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This may be a bit off topic, but I would like to know if the areas for the additional programs will also be Everbloom Hollow, Ruhotz Silvermines, and Ghoyu’s Reverie. I feel that users would get bored if the same areas are used all the time. Even though Abyssea was also a “copy and paste” map, it had a sense of freedom, because it was a field. The Meeble areas are all caves, so they feel very closed.


Since the name of the content is Meeble Burrows (a burrow is a hole or tunnel dug by a small animal) it would feel strange if the map was open and free.

To answer your question, we will most likely use the new areas added in the Seekers of Adoulin. We will put some thought into this, though.

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I feel like objective 3 should be more difficult, but do many people disagree?


Our goal was to set the difficulty of objective 3 so that a party of six players would be able to complete it regardless of their jobs, as long as they use all of the support enhancements.

There was talk of a hard mode at the time of development, so we would like to look into this idea as well as related items when the time is right.


http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/29296-Meeble-Burrows-Update!?p=387960#post387960

Akihiko Matsui wrote:


Walk of Echoes Weapon Adjustments

Hello,

Since the implementation of the bonus walks to Walk of Echoes is taking longer than anticipated, I spoke to the lead developer in regards to making weapons that call for items from Walk of Echoes easier to create.

We have 2 main ideas we are looking at.

- Remove the EX attribute from the coins

- Add pouches that allow users to pull out multiple Devious Die and Liminal Residues


Although this may make this content too easy, we are looking into adjusting the difficulty of creating these weapons so that it is easier than finishing Empyrean weapons.


http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/29402-Walk-of-Echoes-Weapon-Adjustments?p=387961#post387961
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Oh god yes. It is about time that WoE weapons, which are inferior to empy weapons, get an adjustment. The coins aren't too bad at all as rare/ex imo, it isn't too hard to farm them. It's the frigging dice etc. They don't drop enough given how you -NEED- a big group to do the fluxes that drop them regularly... and given how no one does said fluxes almost ever.

It's also a dog's breakfast to get people going on it.

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Would still like to see a way to permanently learn a prestige weapon's WS a la Mythics, with the primary weapons offering the Aftermath aspect, but that might just be me hating content restrictions in general. :|a

Anyway, he'd also mentioned possibly looking into the macro system in regards to more lines or at least mass equipment swaps. I'd hope that goes somewhere, even if it may lead to the inevitable PS2 nixing.
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Akihiko Matsui wrote:

Hello,

Thank you for all of the feedback since the version update regarding Legion, Neo-Nyzul, the Salvage expansion, and Meeble Burrows.

Regarding the 600 skill cap mentioned in the explanation for the adjustments to Perfect Defense

I’d like to apologize that this was conveyed as if it was going to be immediately possible to reach 600 and it also was received like the development team did not understand the current situation. Also, I apologize that this was not followed-up on sooner.

I believe that in future posts there will be cases that we give similar explanations, and we would appreciate it greatly if you could take these to mean that “while it is currently not possible to do this, there is a possibility for growth in the future.”

It’s extremely difficult to have everyone come to the same understanding on the first try no matter how we convey or write it, so we would like to respond to this kind of posts in a shorter time frame by rephrasing the content or through other techniques in order to improve communication.

Embrava stats

I’ve been hearing that the reason for changing the regain effect to refresh was to turn it into a spell that would give a beneficial effect to not only the frontline jobs, but to backline jobs as well.

I’ve been looking over all of the adjustment suggestions that you all have submitted and discussed it with the job lead as well as the content leads, but this is something that needs to be done at this specific time, so we will be proceeding with the original adjustment plan.

Content adjustment

While I won’t be getting into the specifics about which aspects and such, I have been speaking the development team members about adjustments and re-adjustments for Neo-Nyzul, Legion, Odin, and Voidwatch (up to Provenance watcher) based on the adjustments to Perfect Defense and Embrava.
(Based on the above adjustments, if adjustments to the Salvage expansion are necessary we will look into that as well.)

However, in regards to Arch Dynamis Lord, since this is a monster that drops materials for upgrading relics, we plan on maintaining the current conditions.

Additionally, for Meeble Burrows, with the version update that is scheduled for the beginning of the year, the effect of Embrava will be made to reflect the adjustments similar to the Salvage expansion when we implement the new expeditions.


We will be working hard on development so that Seekers of Adoulin is enjoyable and also to reflect the need and importance of the above adjustments. Thank you very much.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/28932-Interim-Report-%E2%80%93-Sorry-to-keep-you-all-waiting!?p=390837#post390837

Akihiko Matsui wrote:

Thanks for all the feedback.

The adjustment to the difficulty of obtaining coins and other items was meant to slightly reduce the difficulty of obtaining Walk of Echoes weapons. (I have mentioned this in my previous post, so if you already know this, please just ignore it.)

We’ve also been taking to heart the opinions from those of you mentioning that it’s too late and there is no meaning to perform these adjustments now. On the other hand, I understand that there are those of you who feel that even though it’s late it is a welcome change.

Also, more specifically, there are those of you who mentioned that Devious Dice and Liminal Residue were fine and suggested methods for not removing the EX status on coins. Development schedule wise we still have time to select the options for addressing this, so please let us know your feedback.

There have also been a few players mentioning that they would like the Walk of Echoes weapons to be made stronger. Since these weapons were meant to be easier to obtain and weaker than Empyrean weapons, instead of increasing the stats we will be lowering the cost associated with them. (This doesn’t mean that we won’t ever be revamping the stats on them though.)

Additionally, we understand the feedback asking to adjust Walk of Echoes to make it fun. However, this involves recreating various systems and requires time and man-power. I will look into adjustments and changes to the Walk of Echoes content separately with the team to make it more enjoyable.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/29402-Walk-of-Echoes-Weapon-Adjustments?p=390842#post390842

Edited, Jan 2nd 2013 6:23pm by Szabo
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New Year's Greetings

Akihiko Matsui wrote:

Happy New Year.

Last year I focused on gathering and listening to your opinions. This year, in addition to that, I would like to place more of an emphasis on keeping you informed about the vision of FFXI.

I'm sorry that this is somewhat abstract, but first, I'll be putting all of my energy into raising the satisfaction levels of all you adventuring in Vana'diel. Then I would like to adjust the difficulty of content and each their targets as well as modify features so that past adventurers can return to FFXI.

This year marks the release of Seekers of Adoulin and although I took a somewhat long winter break, I will be working at full speed toward its release at the end of March.

I'm looking forward to a good year with you all.

*Sorry that my New Year's greeting was late. I'll start posting a lot more from tomorrow onward.


Mizuki Ito wrote:

Happy New Year.

Last year I spent a lot of time on Adoulin-related development and a full year has come to an end. We're currently in the midst of the final stretch finalizing Seekers of Adoulin.

The development team has a mountain of work this year as well, but as opposed to 2012 where the manpower wasn't being divided, this year we're working with Matsui to build a structure that allows us to better meet the feedback seen on the forums.

Everyone is working passionately on Seekers of Adoulin, so please look forward to a great year of FFXI.


Yoji Fujito wrote:

Happy New Year!

Since the middle of 2012, I started popping up a bit more around the forums. Thinking back, I think I might have been a bit too much of a tongue-in-the-cheek kind of character, but I hope you're all enjoying it.

In preparation for the release of Seekers of Adoulin, the entire development team is working extremely hard and even I, who is normally calm and composed, am running around as busy as a bee. For real!

This year we'll be developing new content and stories centered around Seekers of Adoulin, but we'll also be putting in all of our energy to tackle some of the outstanding issues as well. (Such as the PS2 blackout issue, as well as fishing and synergy revamps.)

We appreciate your continued patronage of FFXI this year as well!

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/29659-End-of-the-Year-New-Year-Greeting/page2


Edited, Jan 8th 2013 7:31pm by Szabo
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Akihiko Matsui wrote:

Additionally, we understand the feedback asking to adjust Walk of Echoes to make it fun. However, this involves recreating various systems and requires time and man-power. I will look into adjustments and changes to the Walk of Echoes content separately with the team to make it more enjoyable.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/29402-Walk-of-Echoes-Weapon-Adjustments?p=390842#post390842

Edited, Jan 2nd 2013 6:23pm by Szabo


Love this. Make it...fun? We are very sorry. That would involve fixing it. Hinestly making the coins tradable would probably pique at least a bit of interest (one more thing to sell)... But really they need to adjust the lower tiers so they can be cleared with fewer players. In my experience, once you actually get people in there clearing tiers a couple hours later people start snowballing in.

The hard part is getting the first 10 or so people so you can do timely clears without too much trouble. That or they need to adjust difficulty across the board and only allow 18 people in a flux at a time. It's not feasible to get the 25+ people you need to reliably clear the final fluxes, which, as people tell me when I try to organize runs of lower fluxes, people only want to join a shout for flux 15 (despite the fact that lots of the lower tiers have items worth 2-4 million gil, and can be cleared in half the time, and if you do those lower fluxes a few times eventually people start showing up and you can do the higher fluxes)

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Akihiko Matsui wrote:

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Happy New Year!

I'm really happy that you are placing such an emphasis on increasing the satisfaction levels for current adventurers as well as looking to bring adventurers back.

However, I feel a bit uneasy that there was no mention of acquiring new players. Even though it's a 10 year old game, XI is still awesome and I’d love to see new adventurers coming in.


Sorry to worry you, but we're not giving up on acquiring new players.

From a task perspective, focusing on new players and adjusting low-level content is easier.

However, focusing on that would mean that adventurers playing now would have to wait quite a while to then address their needs. So we'd like to add and adjust high level elements. (This is the general principle, though there exceptions on an individual basis.)

Our main goal is to make FFXI fun for everyone currently playing, so that you can tell your friends who haven't played yet, or those that used to play, to join and play with you and that the game is much more fun now that it was before.

I believe that at this current point in time, this is the most important aspect for new player acquisition.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/29659-End-of-the-Year-New-Year-Greeting?p=392195#post392195
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Akihiko Matsui wrote:


Overall Battle System Adjustments for the Future

Hello.

Thank you for the vast amount of feedback regarding battle.

We’ve received a variety of different adjustment suggestions and amongst them a suggestion for enfeebling. However, instead of thinking about this in terms of individual points, I’ve been reading over everything from the viewpoint of battle overall.

Towards the end of last year I made a series of posts about the plans we have; however, this raised the issue of requests for more specific, concrete details, which in turn made it difficult for all of you to hold discussions. With that said, from an overall battle system perspective, I would like to share a couple of ideas the development team is currently thinking about.

Please note that all of these ideas have not been finalized. Also, please know that the below is not the entirety of the overall battle adjustments.
We’d appreciate it greatly if you took the content listed here to not represent the cure-all solution, and see it more as things we will be doing while working to solve the issues.

Balance between two-handed and single-handed weapons

This is a topic that has been discussed in several threads, particularly one about making adjustments to single-handed weapons, and we would like to perform adjustments.

As has been mentioned, food and other choices are quite limited due to the fact that status modifiers are far greater for two-handed weapons and there is a higher need for accuracy when using single-handed weapons.

For example, we are currently looking into the possibility of adding some form of merit that would enhance the modifiers for the single-handed weapon main weapon slot.

Regarding Dark Knight

This is a topic that has been discussed in several threads, particularly one about dark knight being too powerful. As was commented during VanaFest, we feel dark knight is becoming powerful, and at the same time decided to put off the adjustments we had looked into at that time. I believe there are many who remember this.
We are currently looking to adjust Desperate Blows and Last Resort.

Currently, the haste cap for equipment and magic is the same for all jobs, but haste from abilities is a separate category outside of this cap, and Desperate Blows is the ability with the highest value of haste.

However, simply reducing the value of Desperate Blows would only cause dark knight to become weaker, so we are considering giving a portion of the total haste effect granted from Desperate Blows to Last Resort, and giving the remaining amount back to Desperate Blows.

Current

Desperate Blows +25%


Post-adjustment

Desperate Blows +10% (*Value with 5 merit points)
Last Resort +15%

Simply put, this adjustment will allow you to gain this effect in the case you use dark knight as your support job.

While currently, it might be difficult to imagine the situations where a front-line job would select dark knight for their support job, we would like to look into this based on this possibility.

Regarding Defense

This is a topic that we have received feedback on asking to increase the boons of defense. Due to the attack/defense ratio, the meaning behind adding defense past a certain value starts to become pointless, and we would like to make it have meaning.

As a merit, for example, the more you increase your defense, the lower the damage taken will be and the boons for Defender would become large.
On the other hand, while under the effects of abilities that decrease defense such as Berserk or Last Resort, the damage you take would become higher than what it is currently.

Merit Point Weapon Skills

This is a topic we have seen in threads asking to increase the cap on the merit point weapon skill category.
Instead of adjusting the cap value, we are currently looking into adjusting the modifier values so that these weapon skills can be used with a single merit point.

We are envisioning to make it so 1 merit point will yield a 65% status modifier, and each point afterwards will grant an addition 5% for a maximum of 85% (no changes to the max value).

Elemental Magic

We have received a variety of feedback on elemental magic.
The first thing I’m thinking of doing is making adjustments to the damage calculations.

Here’s my current image of how elemental magic is going to work:
The damage output on earth element spells will initially be lower compared to the rest of the elements, but have the best cost performance overall. Also, INT will have an even larger impact on the damage output. As a result, players will basically try to raise their INT and magic attack to get closer to the damage output done by lightning element spells.

Breakdown by element

MP Efficiency: Earth > Water > Wind > Fire > Ice > Lightning
INT Offset: Earth > Water > Wind > Fire > Ice > Lightning
Initial Damage Output: Lightning > Ice > Fire > Wind > Water > Earth
Maximum Damage Output: Lightning > Ice > Fire > Wind > Water > Earth

Breakdown by spell tier

MP Efficiency: I > II > III > IV > V
INT Offset: V > IV > III > II > I
Initial Damage Output: V > IV > III > II > I
Maximum Damage Output: V > IV > III > II > I

The charts below explain my idea in detail.
* The magic attack does not include any offsets.
* “INT+0” and “INT+100” represents the INT difference between the caster and the target.


 
Tier I 	    INT+0	    INT+100 
	Before	After	Before	After 
Stone	10	10	42	160 
Water	16	25	66	165 
Aero	25	40	92	170 
Fire	35	55	108	175 
Ice	46	70	126	180 
Lightning 60	85	149	185 
 
 
 
Tier II    INT+0	    INT+100 
	Before	After	Before	After 
Stone	78	100	175	350 
Water	95	120	195	355 
Aero	113	140	213	360 
Fire	133	160	233	365 
Ice	155	180	255	370 
Lightning 178	200	278	375 
 
 
 
Tier III    INT+0	    INT+100 
	Before	After	Before	After 
Stone	210	200	360	550 
Water	236	230	386	560 
Aero	265	260	415	570 
Fire	295	290	445	580 
Ice	320	320	470	590 
Lightning 345	350	495	600 
 
 
 
Tier IV   INT+0	    INT+100 
	Before	After	Before	After 
Stone	381	400	581	850 
Water	410	440	610	865 
Aero	440	480	640	880 
Fire	472	520	672	895 
Ice	506	560	706	910 
Lightning 541	600	741	925 
 
 
 
Tier V 	     INT+0	    INT+100 
	Before	After	Before	After 
Stone	626	650	855	1200 
Water	680	700	909	1220 
Aero	734	750	967	1240 
Fire	785	800	1014	1260 
Ice	829	850	1058	1280 
Lightning 874	900	1103	1300


As far as casting time and recast time goes, here’s my current idea:

- Tier I~V spells will all have same casting time / recast time.
For example, Tier I spells will have a casting time of 0.5 seconds and recast time of 2 seconds. Therefore, both Thunder I and Stone I will have the casting time of 0.5 seconds and recast time of 2 seconds.

The charts below explain my idea in detail.


 
Tier I 	     MP Cost	    Cast Time	  Recast Time 
	Before	After	Before	After	Before	After 
Stone	9	4	1.5	0.5	6.5	2 
Water	13	10	1.75	0.5	7.75	2 
Aero	18	16	2	0.5	9	2 
Fire	24	22	2.25	0.5	10.25	2 
Ice	30	28	2.5	0.5	11.5	2 
Lightning 37	34	3	0.5	13	2 
 
 
 
Tier II    MP Cost	    Cast Time	  Recast Time 
	Before	After	Before	After	Before	After 
Stone	43	36	3.25	1.5	14.5	6 
Water	51	43	3.5	1.5	15.75	6 
Aero	59	51	3.75	1.5	17	6 
Fire	68	60	4.25	1.5	18.5	6 
Ice	77	68	4.5	1.5	19.75	6 
Lightning 86	77	4.75	1.5	21	6 
 
 
 
Tier III    MP Cost	    Cast Time	  Recast Time 
	Before	After	Before	After	Before	After 
Stone	92	64	5.25	3	22.5	15 
Water	98	75	5.5	3	24	15 
Aero	106	88	5.75	3	25.25	15 
Fire	113	101	6	3	26.5	15 
Ice    120	115	6.25	3	27.75	15 
Lightning 128	129	6.75	3	29.25	15 
 
 
 
Tier IV    MP Cost	    Cast Time	  Recast Time 
	Before	After	Before	After	Before	After 
Stone	138	112	7	6	30.75	30 
Water	144	129	7.25	6	32	30 
Aero	150	148	7.5	6	33.25	30 
Fire	157	169	8	6	34.75	30 
Ice	164	190	8.25	6	36	30 
Lightning 171	213	8.5	6	37.25	30 
 
 
   
Tier V 	     MP Cost	    Cast Time	  Recast Time 
	Before	After	Before	After	Before	After 
Stone	222	156	8.75	10	39	45 
Water	239	182	9.25	10	40.25	45 
Aero	255	210	9.5	10	41.5	45 
Fire	270	240	9.75	10	42.75	45 
Ice   282	272	10	10	44	45 
Lightning 294	306	10.25	10	45.5	45



Please note that we will be making additional adjustments on elemental magic using this change as the foundation.

Regarding Content

To start off, we are looking into adjustments for new Nyzul, Legion, Odin's Chamber II, Voidwatch (up to Provenance Watcher), Salvage, and in the event there is further necessity, new Salvage as well.

Below is what we are looking into for adjustments.

New Nyzul

Adjustments to the warp range of floors

Legion

- Adjustments to monster levels
- Adjustments to attack power and defense

Odin's Chamber II

Adjustments to monster levels

Voidwatch

Expand the usage range of the void clusters to Provenance (Provenance Watcher)

Salvage

- Re-examine the drop rate of level 35 equipment
- Make a change so that monsters other than the NMs that spawn from ramparts in Bhaflau Remnants drop the same equipment

Walk of Echoes

- Adjustments to monster levels
- Remove EX status from each type of coin
- Add sacks that contain multiple Devious Dice and Liminal Residue


Past this, we will continue to make adjustments as necessary, and we will be making it so strategy and play style variations can be developed instead of having to win with a huge amount of fire power in a short amount of time.

While I am repeating myself, the above are by no means finalized. There are many other topics we are looking into at the moment (enmity, TP given to enemies, etc.), so I would appreciate it if you could read over all of this on the basis that there is a possibility that the implementation order and adjustment method changes.

Thank you very much.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/29831-Future-Overall-Battle-System-Adjustments


Edited, Jan 11th 2013 8:19pm by Szabo
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Some interesting stuff there. Thumbs up to the walk of echoes adjustments. I'd love to actually make a couple fake empys someday.
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I still don't under stand the resistance to upping the amount of WSs we can merit. It's a time sink that the players are asking for and when you get down to it only a couple are must haves for their jobs and the rest can be skipped with little lost. Least everything else seems interesting and well thought out.
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I'd take it over them changing nothing, at least. Losing 5% on one job/WS could mean gaining 65% on another to make it more useful.

Nuke changes feel like something I'd have to play with before I could really judge. Might make Occult Accumen not so much lulzy.
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I'd take it over them changing nothing, at least. Losing 5% on one job/WS could mean gaining 65% on another to make it more useful.

Nuke changes feel like something I'd have to play with before I could really judge. Might make Occult Accumen not so much lulzy.


I agree, being capped at 3 WS's fully merited is not the way to go. As it stands 1/5 upgrades under the new system would be 4/5 now and even 4/5 is pretty good for the most part. This gives a lot more flexibility as now you can 5/5 two weaponskills and still have enough to open up 5 more at the current 4/5th's strength.

Also, the new magic tiers are going to be interesting. I did some quick math and it looks like the M value for each tier has a starting value with Earth elements having the strongest M value and the value decreases as you go through the elements. For instance, Tier V Earth starts at 5.5 M and each spell down the list decreases the M value by 0.3 until you get to Thunder which has 4.0. This is going to possibly change our gear options of INT vs MAB in the future.

Addition: It looks like the old eyeball rule of 2 INT = 1 MAB might be flipped after this adjustment to where 1 INT = 2 MAB.

Edited, Jan 11th 2013 5:15pm by ImmortalAlchemist
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Holy RDM nuking buff....

Fast Cast T4's for 1K base damage roughly....SCH too.

BLM gets some nice stuff but that increase @ T5 kinda hurts BLM, SCH might just be the best nuker now...

Interesting changes to other stuff too. /DRK would be neat. LR is pretty decent and with 15% JA haste on it as well seems nice. The change to defense seems interesting. But really turtling isn't really viable in this game due to timers, but boosting Defender, and Cocoon is kind of nice.

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Unless I am missing something, those nuke adjustments are pretty lame.

Stone V now costs less than Thunder/Blizzard/Fire IV despite having a higher base damage and, thanks to their weird INT scaling idea, better scaling.

The tier 1-2 spell adjustments are cool for low levels, but I doubt they'll be enough to make people start spamming low tier magic.

I guess the tier III changes are OK. The tier IV and V changes are pretty senseless.

This is like fixing the fact that no one uses Scythes by making Resolution a two hit skill and adding a four hit 'Scythe Resolution'. Sure, the underused weapon is now a logical choice but it doesn't actually change the playstyle of the job and the net result is just a nerf. It's like New Coke, you get a new flavor but lose the old one that most everyone was happy with.

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Why do they insist on fixing defense and 1-handed calculations through merits?


Because everything is generally "fine" till end-game? You know, after you're done leveling?
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Well, most BLM builds stacked INT and MAB like crazy anyway. That much isn't going to change.
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This is like fixing the fact that no one uses Scythes by making Resolution a two hit skill and adding a four hit 'Scythe Resolution'. Sure, the underused weapon is now a logical choice but it doesn't actually change the playstyle of the job and the net result is just a nerf. It's like New Coke, you get a new flavor but lose the old one that most everyone was happy with.



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All changes have a net result being a nerf.

This is what happens when jobs X, Y, and Z complain enough to the developers that their damage isn't exactly the same as jobs A, B and C (but conveniently leaving out what jobs A, B, and C don't have in the form of other abilities, magic, stances, etc.)

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SunriderRagnarok wrote:
Why do they insist on fixing defense and 1-handed calculations through merits?


Because everything is generally "fine" till end-game? You know, after you're done leveling?


It's better to simply fix what's broken than leave it broken and force players to fix it themselves through merits. I betcha they make you give up the opportunity to merit something highly beneficial in exchange for having 1-handers simply not suck. To me merits should focus on enhancing what we already have rather than fixing broken calculations or mechanics.
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Theonehio wrote:
SunriderRagnarok wrote:
Why do they insist on fixing defense and 1-handed calculations through merits?


Because everything is generally "fine" till end-game? You know, after you're done leveling?


It's better to simply fix what's broken than leave it broken and force players to fix it themselves through merits. I betcha they make you give up the opportunity to merit something highly beneficial in exchange for having 1-handers simply not suck. To me merits should focus on enhancing what we already have rather than fixing broken calculations or mechanics.

Doesn't take much to just add a new merit slot, heck it is likely easier than going through the jumbled coding that this team inherited. I am all good with merits to be quite honest. **** people have been asking for more stuff to merit because they have been sitting on capped merits for so long. Now SE has suggested making more merit stuff and people don't like it...

No wonder they hate changing this game, damned if they do, damned if they don't.
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Well, most BLM builds stacked INT and MAB like crazy anyway. That much isn't going to change.


I only see it changing equipment decisions where a person is deciding between two pieces where the INT outweighs the MAB in terms of the new ratio. But these values given in the developers post aren't set in stone, but I do like the direction they are going.
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No wonder they hate changing this game, damned if they do, damned if they don't.


And you've hit the key reason why very few companies succeed at truly understanding their customers.

While SE's customers did technically ask for the ability to merit more, they didn't really mean merit more things poorly.



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catwho wrote:
Well, most BLM builds stacked INT and MAB like crazy anyway. That much isn't going to change.


I only see it changing equipment decisions where a person is deciding between two pieces where the INT outweighs the MAB in terms of the new ratio. But these values given in the developers post aren't set in stone, but I do like the direction they are going.


I remember getting my super shiny new Shadow Trewss from Einherjar, and getting a pitying look from a min/maxer along with a tell that "you know the mahatma slops are still better, right?"

Well yes, in the damage formula, they were technically more powerful. The difference was no more than 5-6 points of damage on most nukes. But *******[/i] did I look stylish nuking. Smiley: laugh

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