Take Care FFXI.Follow

Today, as of 10/22/2012, SE threw the update that broke the camel's back.

I played since 2004 a few months after ROZ came out and made tons of friends. Played through ROZ sky, COP came out and explored sea, then TOA came out had a blast in assaults/nyzul exploring again around 2006/7.

When WOTG came out the game did not feel the same. Easy leveling, easy everything. Then abyssea came out soon followed by Void watch. Had semi fun grinding 700~ monsters for no body but got a decent amount of cruor to gil and leveled some crafts. Have only one or two friends left that come on every so often to do a few VW runs but that is it.

I now have 400K gil from leveling gold smithing to 106 last night and was going to convert more blinkers to reach around 6-7 million gil again and farm a little more from VW runs. I had a little over 3 million cruor so this was possible.

"emergency update hit"



Now I'm stuck with low gil and no supplies to craft from. This is what breaks my heart as now I have no real desire to do voidwatch again and do not want to go back to grinding in dynamis.

Take Care FFXI, I've played you through my high school and college lifetime but now it's time to move on. Long life and take care everyone :)

Edit:
After reading all of the posts I can only respond like this:

I don't want to troll/bring people down at all, sorry if I did in any way. This game is great but it has changed so much that it is not the same anymore. I respect everyone that will play it into the future.

I use to do dynamis, sky, run laps through sea, and recently burnt AV several times to the ground with brava/brds/good DD. The linkshell died so I resorted to VW to increase cruor/sell blinkers and crafted to pass the time. Now that brava, smn PD, (next update) and all cruor conversion (including cells in about 2 weeks) has been nerfed I do not have anything to do.

Dynamis has changed, sky is gone and dead, sea runs are rare, VW on random monsters payout has been put to nearly nothing, and my server valefor barely has any shouts going on and just a few event linkshells that does stuff (mainly farming for EMP weapons).

I've made many friends on a new game that isn't considered a MMO but is vast and is almost like one (I wont say what game to avoid backlash). It brings a fresh breath onto what I like to do, adventure. To quote a post on here that I saw awhile ago.. I am just burnt out.




Edited, Oct 23rd 2012 5:55pm by Angryffxiusergbye

Good riddance.

The economy doesnt run on one item alone. I'm sorry they broke your exploit for easy gil. There's 4000+ other methods of making gil. I know you're going to be back next week anyhow. And i really dont see the need to make a new ZAM account over this rubbish without even saying who you are/were. So as far as i'm concerned, i'm sorry SE didnt also BAN all the people who exploited this. Now that would have been pure comedy gold.

Think you're upset? Everyone is whining and ******** ingame over absolutely nothing now and it's anoying. It's one fricking item. And not even a good one at that. I'm sorry you're not smart enough to find a non-bandwagon way to make gil. Personally i hope you never return. Harsh much? good.

Let's face it, when characters could basically bot their way up to max gil without any real effort whatsoever, then something needed to be done. Primarily due to cruor burn parties and the chocobo blinkers you could purchase with them, we were seeing many people reaching max gil in relatively short periods of time, which meant that they could in turn just go and buy whatever they want without care for inflating prices, making it harder for other purchasers in the process.

Not to mention, gilsellers have made a major comeback in recent months, and being able to easily make several million more gil through the cruor they're getting from the cleave burn parties they sell spots to, it's no wonder they nerfed the prices. Were there other ways around it besides hitting the prices? Sure, but it was something that needed to be done somehow for the sake of the game's economy.

It is sad, but I feel this needed to happen. As I hinted earlier; this should of been done sooner considering how many times I heard someone had funded a relic by cru to gil conversion. (Heck, I know a guy who was doing that and is now sitting on tons of cru.) I know for a while also there wasn't much to spend gil on; that's prolly another reason it got ignored/un-nerfed so long, not to mention Tanaka was proly out of it.

The only thing I can say is "never have all your gilmaking eggs in one basket." Blinkers were ever just med/lunch money to me, I never depended on it. I had about 2 other ways to make gil, so cutting one off is not going to hurt me much. I'll proly just try to build enough gil to finish gearing my bst, then work hard on gil so I can finish out cooking. ^^



Edited, Oct 22nd 2012 4:44pm by maryadavies

If you were doing Voidwatch right, your millions of cruor got turned into atmacites anyway. I burned through five million cruor in one night just upgrading two atmacites to max. Had 90K cruor left. I've since zipped back up to nearly a million cruor, but I quickly found a different way to make money. As will everyone else in a few days/weeks.

My advice? Start hoarding gil like mad while you can, cuz deflation is on the way again. And that's a good thing.

Not sure why people pay a monthly fee to have others play a game for them, but whatever....

The current game mechanics DO affect me because it makes it harder to play the game. My idea of fun is not taking a character to Gusgen mines til level 30, then hightailing it to an FC party in Abyssea to 99. I'm aware that no one is forcing me to do that, but again, the mechanics make it so I have to adapt to social convention or pretty much solo my way to the top. This game obviously isn't leveling-friendly anymore. It's focused on what to do when you get to 99, even if you have no idea how to play your job, having never played it in a meaningful way.

Hence, the game is a joke. Just my opinion.

What would be funny is if all the other ways of making gil need the blinkers to work, oh well time to see if you need to buy gil to do anyhthing in game again or farm for 20 hours -.-

The method didn't distribute gil, it created it.

Heaven forbid a tedious task no one actually enjoys be streamlined. I was flirting with resubscribing, but I only wanted to help out during linkshell events, not play the game like a job again.

If I have to waste time grinding gil, I may as well get some real work done and get paid for it. C'est la vie.

The thing is, you don't need gil. Very good gear is completely free, and if you have a good linkshell, even a small one, you don't need to merc your way to Empyreans or even relic weapons these days. There's a tiny shell on Bismarck that has some very insanely good players where they have Empyrean weapons falling out of their pockets, because they're good enough to take down the NMs with four people and they go out and farm them every day. No amount of paying for pop sets for gil can replace a dedicated linkshell, and friends are free.

Should of been done 2 years ago.

However it does prompt the question, is this the begining of nerfing the things that need to be nerfed (years too late)?

I can see them nerfing quite a few other things, XP for isntance is incredibly easy right now and adding 2 new jobs which people will cap in a day can't be something they will think is a good thing.

I think this is a good thing honestly, these things are what ruined the game. Only problem is they are taking action far too late.

I'm sure the Abyssea haters would delight at the prospect of EXP gains being nerfed, I don't see it happening. All leveling does is expand your farming options, not create gil out of thin air. It's all cyclical from there. Nerf Abyssea? Gotta hit book burns, then astral burns, then (level synced) TP burns, then whatever doesn't meet some standard of ideal EXP gain. Something like that is far more likely to be ill-received both by old and new players alike,as not only is the level process rarely fun, but recreating the old days of "decent EXP only if you party" will scare off any potential fresh blood when you've got a lot of games out there that could practically guarantee at least one level a session via far more varied content than standing in place killing crabes/beetles/crawlers/colibri for hours.

Besides, leveling is only a partial educator. Endgame activities depend more on the activity itself. What we know of GEO is that it'll have nukes and basically portable spheres. If you've played BLM/SCH/RDM, you should hopefully know the ins and outs of nuking. There sphere thing is just a twist on BRD/COR buffing with everyone else going on to decide where they want to stand to get a particular effect from the node. RNF may be harder to gauge because we know much less about it right now, but if it's meant to be a tank, just look to PLD and NIN to see what they do, then adapt. From the sounds of things, it'll be closer to PLD. Otherwise, hopefully SE has AF/Relic/Emp stuff in from the start. Acquiring such is also part of the "new job" process, and barring gear overlap, people will need other new things, too. It's not like hitting 99 suddenly stops a class' growth.

I am really having mixed emotions over all of the commotion surrounding this nerf. First off, I've never cashed in on blinker, like Catwho, I spent my cruor on atmacite upgrades.
To the OP, |Take care|, although as previously mentioned, with 106 goldsmithing I am really hard pressed to think that blinker gil should have been your primary income source.

My deeper concern surrounds the continuing perpetual issue that yet again S-E doesn't solve the root cause of this problem... the RMT.

I mean seriously, why is it that every one of us with a functioning brain stem can see the RMT in game sticking out like a sore thumb, and S-E choosing not to punish them but to instead punish us. I just don't get it.

While there may be a "legit" FC party somewhere, those loaded with a shouter and members whose names don't look familiar and are all /anon (jeebus, this isn't Serket anymore) are not.

When we see AH bots spam bidding 1000 gil on everything that has an npc price that is higher, why can't S-E. The average player doesn't make 3000 bids a day.

Simple concept, follow the money, punish the guilty.

Please, stop with this "beat up the playerbase" when each and every one of us would rather see you "beat up on the RMT".