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#1 Oct 17 2012 at 9:58 AM Rating: Good
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Anyone read this?

They moved staff from every other project they have to bolster XIV making every other title suffer because of it for the last 3 years, 300 inhouse staff working on it full time as well as a large out-sourced amount of people. They are putting almost everyone they have into rebuilding the game and throwing all their money at it.

They also mentioned that almost all their online 6.3 billion yen profits were from FFXI.

They showed off about Dragon quest 10 which has 16k players but refused to give sub numbers for XIV. FFXI had around 500k subscribers at peak and even now has vastly more than both of those games combined.

Anyone else rage reading that when they put so little effort into keeping FFXI updated? I came back recently and lasted a week cause it's almost the same crap as when I left last year. FFXIV could very well do terribly and they end up with a flop yet they throw money at it, FFXI starts losing players due to paying no attention to it and they just put out crappy mini-expansions and then ignore it for years.

Who runs this company, spongebob squarepants?

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=146002&page=1

Link to the pdf in first post in the link above.

Some peopel mad about them delaying versus and other titles too.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=484892

They are betting the farm on XIV when the fail rate is very high on these games and player retention is nothing like it used to be in games like XI. They are going to kill themselves with this I think.


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#2 Oct 17 2012 at 10:20 AM Rating: Decent
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First a link would be nice. Now to the dissection of your opinion.

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They moved staff from every other project they have to bolster XIV making every other title suffer because of it for the last 3 years, 300 inhouse staff working on it full time as well as a large out-sourced amount of people. They are putting almost everyone they have into rebuilding the game and throwing all their money at it.


This is simply because the sheer amount of money they already thrown at the game. The finer points of it are more or less intact, sounds, story, structure, environment, etc, essentially the more time consuming elements that have been funded since around 2006 or 07 when it began development. Putting as many people on this as they can speeds up the re-release of the game which from the sounds of it, is going to go a lot better. However I am sure there are people like me who were in the beta for the last attempt, and simply couldn't give a rats ass about 2.0 based on how SE snubbed us during testing....and then released a flop with most complaints being the very things testers were displeased with.

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They also mentioned that almost all their online 6.3 billion yen profits were from FFXI-They showed off about Dragon quest 10 which has 16k players but refused to give sub numbers for XIV. FFXI had around 500k subscribers at peak and even now has vastly more than both of those games combined.
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Makes sense considering that FF14 was FTP for a lot of the year, also makes sense considering that 14 sucked on launch and DQ has never been a renowned game outside of Japan.

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Anyone else rage reading that when they put so little effort into keeping FFXI updated? I came back recently and lasted a week cause it's almost the same crap as when I left last year.


I am quite confused by what you deem little effort. They have added and planned many new things over the last year. New Nyzul, New Limbus, New Salvage, New dungeon crawl, Legion, Expanded Void Watch, announced an expansion, have adjusted jobs, announced 2 new jobs, added more equipment, added more crafts, adjusted the PC version UI.

That is quite a bit of stuff, and far out paces what was added from 2007-2010, and the utter lack of apparent sh*t giving during WoTG.


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FFXIV could very well do terribly and they end up with a flop yet they throw money at it, FFXI starts losing players due to paying no attention to it and they just put out crappy mini-expansions and then ignore it for years.


It could flop, but its not like they haven't already lost money on it. So it wouldn't be anything serious. They have a couple games slated to come out next year, the remake of FF10 is going to sell extremely well. As far as FFXI is concerned it has seen more love in the past 2 years than the 3 proceeding them, and it is already slated to receive the largest content update in half a decade with the new expansion. Which will inevitably bring more people into the game for some period of time, and have a lot of old hats re-sub.

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Who runs this company, spongebob squarepants?


A team of dudes who have done this thing for a long long time, and have both experienced high and low times, yet somehow have still been able to produce entertaining titles across multiple genres.

(and no I did not read the financial report because I don't really care to.)





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#3 Oct 17 2012 at 11:13 AM Rating: Excellent
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A team of dudes who have done this thing for a long long time, and have both experienced high and low times, yet somehow have still been able to produce entertaining titles across multiple genres.


That'll be the same dudes that turned Square Soft into Square Enix because of a certain other Final Fantasy product which pretty much killed the company at the time... So you're quite correct, they do have experience in putting too much cash into a product which they can never hope to recover! As for DQ, the PS1 game still looks pretty damn sweet by todays standards and is well worth a play - legend of the cursed king was it?
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There is a wonderful essay called "Mythical Man Month" from Fred Brooks of IBM which explains that in IT projects, adding more people to the project does not necessarily mean the project is going to be delivered any faster. "A baby takes nine months to gestate no matter how many women are assigned to the task," he says. And then he backs it up with math to prove it.

Why? Because anyone added to a new project needs some training (at the very least a few weeks to get acclimated) and taking resources off the project to train the new guy slows you down even more. Project management 101 at this point.

This is why I'm not surprised that the release was delayed until 2013.
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Where is the link?
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