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#1 Oct 05 2012 at 2:31 PM Rating: Decent
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Hi everyone. I've just started playing the game (on SHIVA i guess)
Anyway, I landed in Bastok a few days ago. I am now a 12-something warrior and 6 red mage. However I can't really bring in any money... I just can get items dropped by monsters which are either cheap Crystals or very rarely stuff to sell and not some of the best or even stuff merchants won't buy (such as the beastmen's seal)
Also items keep falling from my "sack" during my grinding since i've got room for only 30 of them at a time which would cause me to get back to the city very often to sell them all off .
With the money I got from random fights I could barely buy a Zeruhn Mines Map (worth 200 gil), so yes I'm pretty poor.
So what's the first way to earn many in Vana Diel (or whatever it's called) ?
Should I go to work? -but I have no equipment for that
Should I carry out a few missions or quests? -the few ones I did only paid me back with honour... HONOUR????!!!
#2 Oct 05 2012 at 2:49 PM Rating: Good
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First you need to make sure your sorting out your inventory to stack your items up to make more space. Collect stacks of crystals and sell on the auction house, I'm assuming you get the signet whenever you go out to fight.

You can also buy something called Voiddust from Voidwatch Purveyor's. It costs 2000 conquest points and sells for a tidy sum on the auction house. One can be found in Bastok Mines - (H-10)

Always try and check how much you can get for an item/stack of items at the auction house rather than selling it off to NPC's. Some of it might bring in more than you think. Auction house is found in Bastok markets.
#3 Oct 05 2012 at 2:55 PM Rating: Excellent
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Welp,

a) I wouldn't worry about it too much.

b) throw out things that sell for nothing to make room for things worth money - except beastman seals. (so things like flint stones etc, though as the below poster said everything adds up, it is often not worth your time to trek back to town just so you don't toss junk - balance time spent to worth. More time spent walking to town is less time spent farming profitable mobs)

c) Beastman seals: SAVE THOSE. They can make you more money later. Also there are npcs in Jeuno that can store them for you so they won't be clogging your inventory forever.

d) the "honour" as you so call it (more commonly called "fame") actually will help you expand your inventory so don't look down on it. You need a certain level of fame to unlock quests to expand your inventory

e) Save up around 10K. Yes. That does sound like a lot of money, now doesn't it. However, you can use it to buy a mog sack from an artisan moogle. This gives you a second inventory with as many slots as your main inventory. You can get ANOTHER one if you get a "security token" so even if you don't care about your account security it is worth getting for the inventory alone.

SOME low level drops worth saving (All prices current for Asura, other servers will vary)

Honey: 10K a stack

Wild onions: 2K each 30K a stack (These drop off Goblin Thugs)

Silk Thread: 1K each, 30K a stack

Beehive chips: 15K a stack

Crystals also sell fast. Check what the AH price is before listing them, then list them, perhaps shaving off a couple gil to get them to sell faster. Always wear signet.

Also get yourself a few more levels (15 is good), then go party in gusgen mines (don't worry about your gear, no one cares) - you will get a gil bonus every time you complete a page

There will be a book at the beginning of the dungeon, shout "Book Burn Party, please invite me" or something, flag up, and you should get in, then ask them what page and interact with the grounds tome, select the training regime matching the page they told you to get (page 1 or 2). Select "yes" when it asks you if you want it to repeat.

Each real life hour you'll get some gil when you complete the page.

Also if you see a skull drop while you are in gusgen, let people know you need it for your subjob quest and lot it. Otherwise, it is considered rude to lot random trash while you are in parties, so if you need something, let people know before you lot and don't just lot everything. The game will autolot it for everyone.

Edited, Oct 5th 2012 2:07pm by Olorinus
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#4 Oct 05 2012 at 2:58 PM Rating: Good
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Seems like you're running below 10k gil so here are a few tips to make it to the 100k:

1. Inventory

Inventory is huge in this game and you should always focus on making sure you got it cleared for drops when you're farming mobs. Remember, from Bastok to Jueno, everything is valuable whether they be 500g to 1k gil at a time. Whenever you have a full inventory, you should head right back to the Auction House.

2. NPC Items as Last Resort

Do not be tempted to sell items to npc before checking the AH. Thats what ffxiah is for. Every extra gil adds up so be mindful of what you're doing.

3. Sell Fast Demand Items on AH First!

You only have 7 slots on the AH, so I recommend putting consumables to 5 of the slots and non-consumables (armor, slow selling items) in 2 slots. That way you got a constant flow going and it won't stall your farming. Crystals and crafting materials are priority.

4. Check Crafting Guilds for Cheap Materials

This was a problem back when the RMTs were around, but check the guilds for cheap materials and check the comparison on the AH. Oftentimes you'll score extra gil there. Do not buy overpriced guild items. Since you're in Bastok, I believe bronze ingot and silver ore are demanded.

5. Save your beastmen seals!

You need every one of them for when you push into endgame for the higher levels of moneymaking/armor aqcuisition.


These are simple tips to break into 100k very fast. Focus on leveling first as this requires great deal of farming. Once you hit 100k then you'll start focusing on making your first mil. Just remember to learn how to use the AH along the way.

#5 Oct 05 2012 at 3:03 PM Rating: Good
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cokkish1 wrote:
Hi everyone. I've just started playing the game (on SHIVA i guess)
Anyway, I landed in Bastok a few days ago. I am now a 12-something warrior and 6 red mage. However I can't really bring in any money... I just can get items dropped by monsters which are either cheap Crystals or very rarely stuff to sell and not some of the best or even stuff merchants won't buy (such as the beastmen's seal)
Also items keep falling from my "sack" during my grinding since i've got room for only 30 of them at a time which would cause me to get back to the city very often to sell them all off .
With the money I got from random fights I could barely buy a Zeruhn Mines Map (worth 200 gil), so yes I'm pretty poor.
So what's the first way to earn many in Vana Diel (or whatever it's called) ?
Should I go to work? -but I have no equipment for that
Should I carry out a few missions or quests? -the few ones I did only paid me back with honour... HONOUR????!!!


Hello!

Try checking out http://www.ffxiah.com to get info on what sells well.

I suggest going after the bees on the hills around bastok. There is one hill outside Bastok mines that you can climb. At different levels there are bees that will drop honey and will probably still give you a little xp. Apparently a stack of honey is selling for 2000 on shiva (6k on Leviathan where I am at) and sells pretty quickly.

Another thing to think about is going to Konchstat Highlands and hunting sheep for sheepskin. I checked FFXIAH and found that a stack of sheep leather sells for 28K - 30K on shiva, at least for now Smiley: smile. You'd need a stack of dark crystals some windurtian tea leaves and distilled water, but the skill level to make them is very low.

So, one of many paths to making gil is to sell a few stacks of honey, farm some sheepskin (getting xp in the process), invest 6k for dark crystals (you can get them from fungar in Jugner Forest, but you need to get to a higher level) tea leaves and distilled water and make about 20k or so selling a stack of sheep leather.

Other people may have good ideas for starting players.

BTW, definitely do those quests. Some of them are fun and you can get gil doing some of the repeat quests. The "honor" helps you a lot later as you need to do future quests such as getting gobbiebags to increase what you can hold. It also helps you sell for a little more and buy items for a little less as you get higher.


Good luck!

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#6 Oct 05 2012 at 11:55 PM Rating: Decent
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Make some friends, join a linkshell, and mention that you're having trouble affording gear and spells, despite all of your efforts. Chances are, someone will give you a nice little bankroll to get you going.

There are PLENTY of people in this game who rake in a million gil (or more) per day. I know I average around 800k - 1.2M per day from farming Dynamis and doing a little crafting. When a new player enters my Linkshell and complains of having trouble getting started, I have no second thoughts about sending 100k to their delivery box so they can buy gear, spells, food, etc. I know I'm not alone on that. 100k is **nothing** to a lot of people, but it's a small fortune to a new player. Use this to your advantage! It's just a matter of making some friends and tactfully explaining your money issues. Don't whine and don't beg for handouts, but state your situation like you did in this post, and somebody will hook you up. I promise.
#7 Oct 06 2012 at 3:08 AM Rating: Good
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Moat carp is a decent seller still, and was what I used to keep myself afloat way back in the day.
#8 Oct 06 2012 at 3:16 AM Rating: Good
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Altair wrote:
Moat carp is a decent seller still, and was what I used to keep myself afloat way back in the day.


it's even better now as they are 10k a stack and lots of people are questing their lu shangs.
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#9 Oct 06 2012 at 11:04 AM Rating: Good
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Janeash wrote:
Altair wrote:
Moat carp is a decent seller still, and was what I used to keep myself afloat way back in the day.


it's even better now as they are 10k a stack and lots of people are questing their lu shangs.
It's all to do with the demand on working towards a Shaper's Shawl I believe.

Assuming the OP is from Bastok, enter North Gustaberg via the city entrance and climb up Zegham Hill (climb it from the southwest corner) and kill bees there if you are able. Beehive chips drops decently there.

I was going to advise doing a lightning crystal synthesis with Yagudo necklaces to make copper ingot, but you're not from Windurst. I'd suggest a trip there with lightning crystals if the Explorer Moogle is available, going across the river in East Sarutabaruta where there are Giant Bees (not Bumblebees) to kill for beehive chips to the side so it's not just fighting the Yagudo. Crawlers for silk thread too. Giddeus is a decent place for the same stuff (minus silk) when you get stronger. Grab a page and have at it.

Edited, Oct 6th 2012 12:34pm by Jevilwolf
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#10 Oct 06 2012 at 5:06 PM Rating: Excellent
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Also another thing you could do; Back when I started, I used to resell scrolls from the NPC. (In windy, people were too lazy to find the npc.)

I think this can still be the case, I see people sitting by the AH spamming scrolls all the time. Go and see what sells on teh AH (check on FFXI AH and see which sell decently fast and that can make you a profit) and since the AH's are linked now, you can do it from any town. ^^

Edited, Oct 6th 2012 7:06pm by maryadavies
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#11 Oct 08 2012 at 8:11 AM Rating: Good
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I did an experiment on a lvl 1 mule a couple years ago in which I put 50k on it and tried to go as far as I could in a craft. I flatlined out at 40 on insect paste. I stopped because I made millions from that alone. The recipe is earth crystal, millioncorn, distilled water, and a little worm. The corn/water/worm are very cheap via npcs (70 gil, 11 gil, 3 gil), and you can farm the earth crystals. Each synth equates to a stack of paste and hqs don't matter. (The recipe itself is 29? I just lost interest in the experiment at 40).

Currently on Lakshmi, stacks sell for 15k+ so it's a **** of a profit.

Try it out.



Edited, Oct 8th 2012 10:13am by Artemas
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#12 Oct 08 2012 at 10:21 AM Rating: Good
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Get some pickaxes, head down to zeruhn mines, and make those mining points bleed. Zinc ore can be traded for tenshodo fame in bastok, in addition to nearly insta selling on the AH for about 800-1000 gils. The other ores you obtain sell a bit slower but also can net you some gil.

Make sure to purchase pickaxes from the NPC. If HELM is not your style, just get some crystals and sell those. These are normally the quicker and easier ways to make money right from the get-go. As you level up a bit much more money making methods become available, from mob farming, cruor trading, etc.

Good luck.
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