ATTN: New/Returning/Nostalgic PlayersFollow

Hello all. I’ve recently returned to FFXI for the umpteenth time and am enjoying myself immensely. I find it a bit sad, however, that it seems like nobody really tackles the old content anymore and the game is very abyssea-centric. That’s fine and all, and I enjoy abyssea as well, but I keep finding myself looking back on ‘the old days’ with warm memories and wishing I could relive those times. I realize that with all of the changes the game has undergone, nothing will ever be like it was back when CoP and ToAU were new, but I still think there is a lot of enjoyment to be had in tackling the older content.

What I’ve decided to do is create a linkshell that will be dedicated to reliving some of the old times and helping new/returning players experience the full depth of FFXI and not just the gusgen > c. nest > bostineaux > abyssea grind. That doesn’t mean that we won’t do page burns or abyssea at all, to keep everyone leveling, but I’d like to focus on things like ZMs, Promys, ToAU, Dynamis, Campaign, etc. (whatever the majority of members end up wanting to do). Completing rank missions or things like divine might or o-hat runs, even if the rewards aren’t as functional today as they once were, can still be fun. I’d also like to focus on helping new and returning players find their way in the new vana’diel, with simple things like job quests, LBs, etc.

Essentially what I intend to do is create a LS in which recruitment is always open and everyone is welcome regardless of level or previous experience. The aim will be to help everyone advance towards their goals but to do so without solely focusing on exp grinding and instead having fun and taking on a lot of the older content along the way. At this point, I get a lot more enjoyment out of helping others than I do from getting another job to 99 and that's the mentality I'd like to see from anyone who is ultimately interested in joining. I’m currently located on Shiva, but I’m open to moving servers if there becomes a high demand elsewhere. If you’re interested, post here, PM me or try to catch me online by sending a /tell to Craine.

Hopefully I’m not the only one who feels this way and some of you will show an interest.

Great point. Thank you so much for your insight.

(I thought my post made it pretty clear that the point is simply to enjoy old content, whether the rewards are still functional and worthwhile or not... I guess I wasn't clear enough).

Edited, Aug 26th 2012 9:06pm by MCraine

That is contingent on the content actually being enjoyable. Farming eyes for six hours for whoever wants one and finding somebody who still has alchemy leveled (probably the most useless craft to have past 60 now) to synth them and then spend two hours getting somebody a paintbrush (they are stingy with that key), ten minutes getting them to do the painting right, and then five minutes fighting Hakutaku if you bring 99s... When there's stuff like this on the AH that you could just buy and have eight hours to better spend.

You can do something as a group because it's relevant. You can do something as a group because it's enjoyable. You should never subject anybody to something that is neither.

Because this rose-tinted attitude and snobbish sense of 'old game was better and more challenging' (read: time wasting) is rather cancerous around here.

Just trying to set you on the better path of not being another nostalgic bint in pink gear and all alone in his own linkshell.

I personally love the story of the Ohat.

OP you should've picked a better example than Ohat because people are naturally gonna pick on that. Divine Might? Yeah that's a fun fight. Ohat? It's every bit as irritating as Raelix said.

"People don't want their time wasted with irrelevant crap"

"HYPERCRITICAL ELITIST! BAAAAAAAAAWWW"

It didn't sound like you knew what content was relevant these days. Even Divine Might is on the cusp. You listed Promyvion like you've totally missed a particular update. Dynamis for currency is practically a solo event now. These things are still fun at least, but not something anyone would jump shells for.

You words precisely were "whatever the majority of members end up wanting to do" and that is not gonna be any of these things you listed in a group fashion.

So what you've created is the standard Social Linkshell. It's nothing novel, and it doesn't even sound like you're particularly qualified to run one.

Whether you want my straight up opinion or not, it sounds more like you're an old outcast player like me who sees that all the content they were snubbed on before can be done with schmucks and you wanna do it just to say you did. Better than being an old hotshot player who wants to create a points shell these days anyway. Cut the crap dude, anyone can see you just wanna scrape people together to help you on things you hadn't finished yet. Just skip the filler and join the crowd already.

Most anyone still playing FFXI has either 1. Sat through ten years of filler already or 2. Has better things to progress on to get them up to speed that they can do actually relevant things with their friends.

Edited, Aug 26th 2012 8:21pm by Raelix

Ouch. Harsh.

Raelix does have a point. All the stuff you're talking about doing is stuff pretty much any social linkshell does. Although, rather than farming Ohats, we just had a hoe-down in Besieged this afternoon because we're all trying to work on blue mage together.

Ahahahaha. This thread went well.

I see jtftaru still thinks he's the forum police .

Also what Erecia said. 10/10 would read again.

Not sure if worth posting on this topic, because most people seem to have made up their mind already.

Divine Might - still see people wearing DM earrings every day. I wouldn't say this is on the cusp... it's still very relevant. Until there's a better DW earring than Supp, this will continue to be popular.

Assault/Salvage - aside from the fact that you have to have 3 people minimum to even participate (please change this SE... please), there are many nice items available in the game that can only be purchased with imperial standing or assault points... how can you build these up if no one is willing to help? I'm not referring to end game pieces, but ones you would like to have while you are leveling - rare/ex weapons etc.

Sky Gods - still some pretty nice pieces available, especially with augments. Situational at best but where you can use on muliple jobs, it fills the gap from dinging 75 to aquiring better end game gear.

Sea - same thing here... not really high end pieces compared to what you can obtain now, but still great as a filler for multiple jobs, plus who can't make use of coins for Boxers/Brutal/Loq?.

I agree Ohat is pretty much a waste of time now, but it's so easy to do as a level 99, if you just want the hat for the heck of it, why not? It's decent for ranger at least for the R-acc. The OP just threw that in as example of older content from a nostalgia point of view. It wasn't really called for to jump all over it and use it as the sole argument as to why his idea sucks...

My LS basically does 3 things.. AF3/Empy runs, VW, and Dynamis for gil. Once in a while I'd like to do some old content just for a change- at least until SoA comes out and gives us entirely new stuff.

Edited, Aug 27th 2012 8:53am by Ramzixi

My theory has been that there are many more people that talk about doing old content than there are that are willing to do, or remember at all, that content. There's also that I doubt they're willing to do some content the way it was originally intended to be done (level capped or 75 max for starters) so it isn't "true" nostalgia. So far there's never really been updates from the people who take initiative to start up.

If you are having fun participating in an in-game activity, and the people in your party are also having fun, then the event is relevant. Maybe the effort::reward ratio isn't what certain people would consider worthwhile, but that's why they're doing their own thing and not in your party having fun with you doing whatever you're doing.

If you and your party are having fun, and you're not hurting or intentionally inconveniencing other players, then you're doing it right. This is a game, after all.

Just my two cents.