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To me, the whole Evolith system is just a rip of WoW's jewelcrafting & socket system, only it's done incredibly wrong.

They need to introduce a reliable way to obtain materials for, and frequently craft these Evoliths if they really want this to succeed. If I can't go on the AH and find 50 of the "second-best" Evoliths of any slot of my choosing for a reasonable price, then it will fail, because the gear just won't work without evoliths, and most people aren't going to want to spend forever obtaining an item with "meh" stats just to spend forever trying to jump through ridiculous hoops for Evoliths just to pull it out of "Meh" status. FFXI has a tendency to design systems like this with the idea of "Fun" but accidentally (because it's so close to "fun" and an easy mistake) make them "Torture".

1,000 VW Plates for 1 +10 STR evolith = win in S/Es eyes.

They should just make the evolith system more or less like the tatter system, maybe slightly toned down. The old evoliths just seem like so much work for absolutely no reward.

A lot of comments here argue that the existing system is highly flawed, to which I'm certain a vast majority including myself would agree on. However, no one has actually addressed the benefits of what could be done to ensure we have a system which does indeed work well. Why don't we try to look more positively at this, since SE is clearly looking into revamping the entire system. They even said as much in their own post!

Instead of reminding us why the current system is so horribly flawed, why not think more about the potential of a customisation system which actually works. FFXI is one of the few long-running MMO's left which doesn't really have one yet.

*scratches her head* Short of theorycrafting on how specific evoliths would look aside from "unique" ones, I'm not sure what else you'd like to see out of a proposition. Let's look at something like the Phorcys Korazin: STR+16, ATK+5%, MATK+7, Increases WS Damage. Running off what I said earlier, this would probably get 1 socket tops, and I'd suspect people would dump STR equivalents into it. Let's just level 99 stuff could be in a +9 STR evolith, bumping it up for STR+25.

Okay, that makes the piece a fairly hefty WS piece. Let's say an HQ crafted armor gets 4 sockets, then. To be comparative, they can put 3 of the +9 STR evoliths in, giving it +27 STR. Maybe there won't be an ATK+5% equivalent, instead something more like ATK+15 for that level. The Nyzul body will be better, sure, but someone could then use the crafted/evolith'd until they get that or find some other reasonable alternative. A strong enough purpose for the system? Well, I'd say it'd depend on the depth of the evoliths.


Aye, I'm aware of the current system. Was mainly a postulation for the revamp. If augmented goods could be traded/bazaared (unlikely AH'd), it could lead more to a market where "finished" equipment is sold to the end user as opposed to individual pieces. I'm not sure I like this since it'd cut down on the overall demand for potentially crafted pieces in the process since people could just sell them off once no longer needed. Cleaning out all the sockets and at least selling the blank armor can work, as it'd still let the evolith market thrive.

Edited, Aug 9th 2012 2:43pm by Seriha

I didn't know there were that many. I mentioned it a few times, but purely from the angle that a huge system was put in place and I felt bad for the developers who programmed all that in only for it to be completely ignored because when you look into it, it is *very* extensive and would only require revamping the stats and limitations, not the giant network put into place. And that some exclusive NMs spawned by Scylds would be a good idea.


New! Evoliths for the ammo slot! Instead of carrying around the little Evoliths in slots in weapons/armor, players will now be able to equip the big purple goose eggs on their equipment grid!



Under Tanaka. The very reason it was broken was besides having to line up multiple things (for equipping, then again for effectiveness), they were far too stingy in the amounts given. I often used the 2-Hour recast timer as an example. Should have been -5/10/15/20 min or -4/8/12/16 min.



Your wish will be granted. That Evolith will be a prize from Brenner. People'll be lining up to do that to get such a coveted purple petra.

Yo, the evolith weapons make pretty nice looking town gear. They remain rare as hell.

I pretty much forgot they existed... now I wanna go make an offhand Concordia to wear around town tonight :)