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Oh my! Anything special gear-wise or with Atmas?

Yeah, looks like anything works. Subbed /WAR to reduce evasion and up defense a bit, used Stormwaker for Phalanx/Stoneskin, so good!

Hannequets are better, especially if you no one is there. I'd highly recommend doing it on PUP/WAR though with a Stormwaker though. It'll take a little to get Phalanx up but it's worth it when it does. Aggressor/Defender works nicely for what you want to do as well. Plus with Cure IVs, you can pull more than a few.

I'm up 60 (180 to 240 right now) skill in guard in about 25-30 minutes so far so.

Too good, lol

Edited, Jul 23rd 2012 6:49pm by Shouta

Yeah, the "target distant mob while several beat on you" trick is a well established method used by hopeful/deluded monks chasing that holy blue guard number for years.

Guess the only difference now is that its not a complete waste of time. I mean, it is, since guard is still lol. But at least its now a much shorter duration waste of time.

You can put up two Ice and one Light to heal and get through spells faster. Or you can fight one, get Phalanx put on you then fight.

POIDH.


Well, I meant more having said targed mob in your group of mobs that are beating on you, just off to the side enough that you can't actually punch it, but you can still guard its hits. It takes a little finagling.

That said, Hannequets are awesome except when some jagoff comes in and yoinks the whole @#%^ing lot that you put time into getting up from EP to EM-T to start cleave burning right as your last ones get countered to death...
And provided you watch out for the murex, because you can't guard Thundaga III

Edited, Jul 23rd 2012 9:25pm by Jinte

I'm on Hanneys, watching the guard skill roll in (in between whiff whiff whiff of me evading), 18 so far in like half an hour, and just broke 200. There's another pup here, and at least a third person pulling a crowd. I just turn where I'm facing the other mandies instead of the red one, and letting Soulsoother and refresh atmas take care of the rest. Don't forget to pull them away from the auto!

It's where all the cool PUPs are, yeah.

EDIT: stupid auto casting Bio/Dia/Poison. Changing to VE/SW hybrid might even allow total AFK.
EDIT: oops, VE head likes to run in and hit stuff

Edited, Jul 24th 2012 8:32am by Elwynbelwyn

Yes that works as well. Basically same thing.

Is fishing broken for everyone too? Has anyone else tried fishing? X-Box users? PC?

@Jinte How is that cloak obtained? GP?

Edited, Jul 24th 2012 3:09am by Prrsha

Evasion says, "Hi, how ya doin?"

I really really really hope and pray they keep this as-is! It's so awesome and so welcome and not even broken. Please don't screw this up dev team! PLEASE! PWEEEEEEEEEEEEASEEEEEE!

Skills like parrying evading and blocking make sense to learn without successfully blocking. Simply becuase you can learn how to use those skills more effectively by observing. Weapons you can to a certain degree but the details you definitely need to be wielding the weapon and swinging it to get. They should just make it so you can get skill ups even if you miss with weapons. As the saying goes "You learn more in defeat then in victory."

Magic on the other hand.. You can't learn by simply observing since at least the way it's described in game is all in the head. So unless your psychic gonna have to shoot the pews pews to get the buew buew.

FTFY. At least until I see how it plays out on MNK99. :3

- Holy crap Protect is actually a pretty noticeable boost in defense now. I'll surely appreciate it now whenever I'm not abusing 'stance.

- Guard skill rate is nice. Took it from 240 to cap today in a few hours in Abyssea on some mobs that probably were not ideal ones. Annoying part about mass training DC-T mobs in Abyssea to skill guard is that gradually you will counter your train to death, forcing you to rebuild it a few times, during which time the mobs you have trained will have all leveled back down to EP, unless you didn't aggro ALL the mobs and other people were also playing around with them. I expect parrying to go easier just because I won't be counterattacking, meaning I won't have to waste time leveling the mobs back up + rebuilding train.

- The new magic icons are mostly horrible. A lot of them have images on them that either mask the elemental color of the spell, or mislead you into thinking it's a totally different element (check out the Absorb- spells for DRK, why the hell do they have snowflake designs on their icons? They are not ice spells even remotely...) New WS icons are spiffy, they just show you what weapon type it is, which is a lot more tolerable. New JA icons are weird like the magic ones, but because the "element" of JAs is generally a lot less important to know anyway I'm willing to overlook it. The magic ones though, they really need to be toned back a bit. Some people might know the elements of their spells by heart, but not everyone does, and this kind of change will just make it harder for people to learn them.

In this case, leaving it the old way isn't "requires skill". It's "requires a mind numbing time sink".

You picked two spells that are still obvious. Paralyze looks the same color as haste above it and silence below it, for example, and nothing in the description says ice, either. I guess for most of the rest that you can't tell, it doesn't matter because they aren't affected by affinity anyway. Except cures, cures are very purple now.

That it was.

I'm not sure if SE said anymore about it, but the new icons will probably facilitate showing a timer for recast on the screen when they do the UI overhaul they've been talking about.

Edited, Jul 24th 2012 12:08pm by Xilk

That is the big question atm. The current theory is from gutting Matsaya.



It's really not. Pup has Evasion Bonus IV, which makes generally procing guard on pup a lot tougher than it is on mnk (Speaking from personal experience). Pup's guard skill is lower, too, so even capped our decimal-esque proc rate will be lower than mnk's. You're stuck in 2010.


PofitlandingonannmOIDH

This needs to be fixed, asap I hope. I'll pass on the news but I am curious if anyone fishing is currently working.

Does it work for anyone out there? If so, which platform are you using?

Per BG and FFXIAH, it looks like a drop from Zaldon when he guts Matsyas. So yeah, a 100+ level fish that breaks anything but a Ebisu and requires Drill Calamary or Dwarf Pugils bait. Good luck with all that.

Nice! A new use for an Ebisu rod! :D The downside... I found fishing relaxing... having my eyes bleed while doing so, removes that. I wonder if SE sees the current frame rate a feature or a bug. Either way, I'll try to ask a GM to see.

Edited, Jul 24th 2012 10:38pm by Prrsha

Bollox at the news that I need to be a god of fishing to get it :(

Yeah wint gonna make a mint with that

Edited, Jul 24th 2012 10:51pm by Olorinus