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#1 Jul 11 2012 at 9:13 PM Rating: Decent
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For EU: http://www.playonline.com/ff11eu/event/vanafest2012/

For NA: http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/event/vanafest2012/index.html

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#2 Jul 11 2012 at 9:20 PM Rating: Good
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huh? according to the site, it's up until Thursday, July 12, 2012 at 11:59pm (PDT)--that's 11:59 PM Thursday night in California?
#3 Jul 11 2012 at 9:25 PM Rating: Decent
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huh? according to the site, it's up until Thursday, July 12, 2012 at 11:59pm (PDT)--that's 11:59 PM Thursday night in California?


Opps, I always get my time zone mixed up with the U.S. Going to fix the title but leave this as a friendly warning.
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Gobbie Question: What is the name of the upcoming expansion? (Only one is correct!)
[] The Silence of The Dhamel
[] Revenge of the Zilart
[] Seekers of Adoulin
[] Camate and Bayohne's Bogus Journey
[] Weekend at Bubbly Bernies


.....so hard to answer correctly....
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#6 Jul 12 2012 at 12:31 AM Rating: Decent
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So how long until we find out if the rank 1 winner chose a Kannagi?
#7 Jul 12 2012 at 2:43 AM Rating: Decent
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Gobbie Question: What is the name of the upcoming expansion? (Only one is correct!)
[] The Silence of The Dhamel
[] Revenge of the Zilart
[] Seekers of Adoulin
[] Camate and Bayohne's Bogus Journey
[] Weekend at Bubbly Bernies


.....so hard to answer correctly....

I cant believe i was worried about what the question would be. xD

Anyhow, wasnt this like... canceled a while ago?

Edited, Jul 12th 2012 12:17pm by KojiroSoma
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Lady Jinte wrote:
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Gobbie Question: What is the name of the upcoming expansion? (Only one is correct!)
[] The Silence of The Dhamel
[] Revenge of the Zilart
[] Seekers of Adoulin
[] Camate and Bayohne's Bogus Journey
[] Weekend at Bubbly Bernies


.....so hard to answer correctly....

Just shows how crass some countries' laws are that this sort of stupidity is needed to allow what is effectively a lottery to be open to their residents. By doing this a lottery becomes a contest and the stupid politicians are happy.

/sigh
#9 Jul 13 2012 at 7:15 PM Rating: Decent
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My rank 1 choice actually is Kannagi. My reasoning being it is beyond what I'm willing to commit to doing for an in game item and I don't have a group to make it less time consuming and make it 85 quickly which is as far as I'd likely get it, I also already have my 99 magician katanas which while no comparison in the long run get the job done.

It is also a weapon I would actually want to use unlike any of the mythics and most of the relic weapons, Blade:Hi just seems really good for Ninja and it looks cool. I know that mythics would be the biggest bang for buck choice but if I never use it then it would mostly be town gear or a conversation piece. I hope I win something ^^ 5x umbral marrow would be nice gil.

Good luck to all who entered.
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So you chose something that can be done in a couple days by two people, instead of options that are worth hundreds of millions of gil, and in the case of mythics potentially requiring a year+ of endgame as well(assuming new to ein/nyzul)?

I know everyone is free to choose w/e the **** they want, but you done ****** up.

Also it's "magian", not magician -_-
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Its not really worth anything though, thats just the price based on the materials. Its worth to me is simply its utility and if I will actually use it which in Kannagi's case I will.

Although 2 days would be a bit of a hardcore session yes I believe you can get an 85 Kannagi very quickly. I've helped with enough Sobek's while getting +2 gear to know you can get 50 skins over 2 weeks of average nightly groups, but I don't want to be that guy shouting for what is now old content or pestering my ls to help me, maybe if I jumped on it earlier it would be more up my street.

To me this is an opportunity to get an item I want that is otherwise out of my way the key thing being that I want, I'd choose Kannagi every chance I get till I won if only I could just magicly get someone to do one for me....but then again I'm not a magian....
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I just noticed...
They seem to have reduced the number of ppl who can now win -.-

Though it says tier 2 and 3 (no one cares about 4) are split between regions (NA get 25 winners and EU get 25 winners for t2) it's still in total less winners by a large margin is it not?
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Not like it matters, no one we know is going to win anyway.
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#14 Jul 13 2012 at 10:22 PM Rating: Default
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Protip: They're only giving the level 90 version, so your Kannagi will still need the 1500 Heavy Metal Plates, which is the real cost of an Empyrean (~150mil, minimum, and not to mention cinder/dross).

I think it goes without question by most that you are doin' it way wrong.
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I'd never get that anyway so 90 is fine for me, most people seem to be fixated on the cost of the mythic weapon and its rarity/difficulty to obtain as making it the logical best choice keeping in mind that it is also a level 90 weapon I won't ever get to 99 stage it is also not something I personally would use.

Neither of them can be sold so its only real value to myself is its utility and whether it can be used to give myself a new edge as I only really play around in abyssea the Kannagi Blade:Hi combo seems to be the way to go and it is otherwise something I would not have unless I really got my act together and put aside a good few weeks and said right I'm doing this even if I have to solo my pop sets and a few NM's right now I'm not in a position to do that.

You could liken it to choosing a sports car over a mansion in the bahamas (neither of which your allowed to sell ever) a lot of people have sports cars not all but you see them up and down and you could and would drive it everywhere you go, impressing people who don't have one with its speed (damage numbers of Blade:Hi to those who don't have an empy they do make you go :O remember when they first came out that feeling) yes if you worked hard maybe you could of bought one someday but here is an oppurtunity to get it right now for free.

The mansion in the bahamas is a very rare thing that not many people could ever afford to have but its also just in the bahamas (mog house) you could bring people to see it and its nice and all but what does it do? Its great to say you have it but you don't really use it as your life is elsewhere you still need to work as there was no money in this deal so you know its just there gathering dust and all the time your sat in it you just think I should of got the sports car.

Protip: When you stop making choices based on what will make you happy and provide fun in a game your doin' it way wrong.

Unless mythics are your thing and will provide that feeling.
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All but 5 or 6 mythics aren't worth it anyhow. It depends on what jobs you play.

But anyone who plays PUP most of the time and doesn't pick Kenkonken is really doing it wrong.

Edited, Jul 14th 2012 11:52am by Elwynbelwyn
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I'd never get that anyway so 90 is fine for me, most people seem to be fixated on the cost of the mythic weapon and its rarity/difficulty to obtain as making it the logical best choice keeping in mind that it is also a level 90 weapon I won't ever get to 99 stage it is also not something I personally would use.
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Protip: When you stop making choices based on what will make you happy and provide fun in a game your doin' it way wrong.

Unless mythics are your thing and will provide that feeling.

Somebody didn't actually read the thread beyond the first mention of Kannagi and didn't want to feel stupid for picking it over Mythics.

Protip the third: Mythic Katana is better than Kannagi, or at least the best offhand to a Kannagi you could make in a week if you were lazy.

Statistical certainty has nothing to do with it. You chose poorly and we of this thread totally called that somebody would.

Edited, Jul 14th 2012 11:36am by Raelix
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I just noticed...
They seem to have reduced the number of ppl who can now win -.-

Though it says tier 2 and 3 (no one cares about 4) are split between regions (NA get 25 winners and EU get 25 winners for t2) it's still in total less winners by a large margin is it not?

Website says: 1 tier I, 250 Tier II, 1000 Tier III, 5000 tier IV to me. Not sure what you're talking about Smiley: dubious

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Not like it matters, no one we know is going to win anyway.

And the one who wins tier 1 picked @#%^ing claustrum or Kclub or some bullsh*t.

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All but 5 or 6 mythics aren't worth it anyhow. It depends on what jobs you play.

But anyone who plays PUP most of the time and doesn't pick Kenkonken is really doing it wrong.

Edited, Jul 14th 2012 11:52am by Elwynbelwyn

**** straight. Lord knows I didn't even need to THINK about tier I, tier II and III took me like, an hour, though Smiley: laugh

Edited, Jul 14th 2012 4:15pm by Jinte
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Am I the only one who clicked on this thread expecting actual baby photos [of Jinte]? o.O

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#19 Jul 14 2012 at 5:07 PM Rating: Good
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I'd never get that anyway so 90 is fine for me, most people seem to be fixated on the cost of the mythic weapon and its rarity/difficulty to obtain as making it the logical best choice keeping in mind that it is also a level 90 weapon I won't ever get to 99 stage it is also not something I personally would use.
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Protip: When you stop making choices based on what will make you happy and provide fun in a game your doin' it way wrong.

Unless mythics are your thing and will provide that feeling.

Somebody didn't actually read the thread beyond the first mention of Kannagi and didn't want to feel stupid for picking it over Mythics.

Protip the third: Mythic Katana is better than Kannagi, or at least the best offhand to a Kannagi you could make in a week if you were lazy.

Statistical certainty has nothing to do with it. You chose poorly and we of this thread totally called that somebody would.

Edited, Jul 14th 2012 11:36am by Raelix


I read this thread and ones before it on ffxiah.com saying how bad it would be to choose it over a Mythic etc but if it is what I would like and want to use it can't really be stupid and my odds of winning are such that ultimately it probably won't matter I may not even be playing anymore next year so it would be nice for me to have it before I leave.

I don't think it would be better really and the model alone is enough to convince me not to use it as it looks kind of rubbish even as an offhand weapon lol I'll settle for looks over killing X NM 30 seconds faster which lets face it is all these weapons do, just makes you do what you did yesterday a little bit faster and more efficiently either way the monster with enough support and mostly appropriate gear winds up dead.

Choosing poorly has nothing to do with this situation though we are both thinking about it in different ways.

I'm looking at what I want to have fun with, I would like a Kannagi but don't have one. I don't care for the Mythic weapon at all, if I won the Mythic I'd still want a Kannagi though if I win the Kannagi I'll be content which meets my needs and goals.

Your viewpoint is based on the relative ease and effort required to obtain the Kannagi as opposed to the Mythic, with this in mind it seems unreasonable and foolish for someone to choose a lesser item over such a rare coveted piece. There has been much player specualtion as to why Empyrean weapons have been grouped with Mythics particularly if only up to the 90 stage likening it with SE being out of touch and not knowing the game etc.

We are both right though most of the people posting here on the forum will probably share your view as that is the nature and standpoint of most players with commited ties to the forums and with their experience of the game what they see as the correct choice.

I've been playing since 2006 now and have followed and tracked up a lot of information but often make choices that from a numbers or pure logic sense you may find more akin to a newb or a player who does not understand the game, though most of these choices often boil down to the fact that I find some aspect of it unrewarding or unnecessary and or otherwise compromising my enjoyment of the game. I'm at fault every single time and you can prove it wrong or obsolete with ease but I cannot put into words how right it feels and how much more enjoyment I derive from playing its a shame that you probably won't be thinking anything more than this guy must suck lol. Though my explanation is lacking detail so that is to be expected but don't worry that is not the case I prefer upper medium as a modest evaluation.
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I don't think you're a bad player. I just think you're an idiot. There's a pretty major difference.

You know Kannagi is a good weapon, you're probably a decent enough player just on that, but don't realize you're blowing a chance at something worth far more effort on something I would actually sit down for a weekend and get for you just so you don't make such a stupid decision; now you make page-long posts trying to defend that decision.

We all make mistakes. It's when somebody points out that some dork will make an easy mistake and that dork comes 'round to defend himself that shenanigans start, especially when you come back next week with 'Hey guys, I won my Kannagi, how hard is it to get these heavy metal plates I need?'

So in the end, I only point and laugh because:


Edited, Jul 14th 2012 4:35pm by Raelix
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Lol great clip haha I'm sorry you feel that way besides a prerequisite of playing an MMO is being a bit of a dork there is nothing wrong with that though, it would be so funny if I did win it just to see the reaction of the players haha LEEEERROOOY JEEEENKINS!!!! it was in all honesty a serious choice by myself though not a joke I stand by the decision for the reasons I said previously.

Good luck with your Mythic as well :)
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I just noticed...
They seem to have reduced the number of ppl who can now win -.-

Though it says tier 2 and 3 (no one cares about 4) are split between regions (NA get 25 winners and EU get 25 winners for t2) it's still in total less winners by a large margin is it not?

Website says: 1 tier I, 250 Tier II, 1000 Tier III, 5000 tier IV to me. Not sure what you're talking about Smiley: dubious



are you clicking on the US or EU one? I click the EU one and it says 1 tier one split between US and EU, and all other winners will be selected by region. 25 T2, 100 T3, 500 T4.

Ah yeah, the US scheduleis still the same and same wording... No idea what's what then :/

Edited, Jul 15th 2012 12:34am by GLGunblade
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I'd never get that anyway so 90 is fine for me, most people seem to be fixated on the cost of the mythic weapon and its rarity/difficulty to obtain as making it the logical best choice keeping in mind that it is also a level 90 weapon I won't ever get to 99 stage it is also not something I personally would use.


Mythics are stupid easy to get from 90->99, definitely the easiest of the 3, possibly intentional due to the fact mythics are by far the worst of the 3 just to get the original 75 piece (and I'm sure a lv99 Nagi would still potentially be a useful weapon, even if it's definitely not one of the better mythics). Scoria is worth far less than marrow on most servers from what it seems, and you only need 3 as opposed to 5. Given that PW doesn't seem to be nearly as difficult to farm a pop for and consistently take down as ADL can be, I would think it's not hard to find 3 scoria.

Neither relic nor mythic come even close to 1500 plates and 60 dross/cinder, obviously

Edited, Jul 15th 2012 1:25am by Fynlar
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Barring a win of my own, I sincerely hope a 'useless' pick wins just to continue the tsunami of butthurt I am seeing over someones choice to pick a Kannagi.

It's almost as if some people are literally incapable of understanding that not everyone prioritizes effort:reward ratio in a video game.

As an important addendum, how 'easy' an empy is to make is directly proportional to the amount of helpers you have.

If you have two full parties farming pops, claiming the timed spawns, proccing red, providing TH, and holding sets so that you can chainspawn 10 NMs at a time... yes, it is a joke and you'll be done in a weekend.

If you're soloing, you're going to have to make sacrifices. You can't do all the things. You'll either farm without TH or farm without many red procs. Without burning meds on a perfect NIN/WAR, some of the NMs will require a subjob that has less red procs. If you lack the event items to proc weapons you usually cant equip, you're even further SOL.

Then, after slowfarming a set (would be even slower to farm pops, warp, regear, go back, pop on nin/war, proc reds, warp, go back on another job to fight), you have to solo the NM. This can (rarely) go wrong, but will always be incredibly slow and frequently yield single-drops without TH. Then when you're done, you have to do the whole farming phase again because you can't have six sets queud up one after another.

tl;dr: If you don't have a group of helpers or a dual-box WHM and nothing in your life but free time, making an empy can be a daunting task. It's easy for some people (it was easy for me), but back when I didn't have help I got fed up after slowly soloing about ten Briareus helms on NIN/DNC. I can see why someone who doesn't have helpers and doesn't wanna spend 200 hours grinding would pick one.

I did pick a mythic because even solo, an empy is theoretically attainable... I don't think there's enough Alexandrite flowing on my server to finish a mythic before the heat death of the universe, even if I could afford the 4-600 million gil pricetag. Nevermind the ridiculous prereq quests.
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So I was ok with hearing that JP fans who physically attended vanafest could buy the in-event items (6 for about 35-40$) and redeem the codes for in game items, including (and they didn't say the amount that will be given away) afterglow weapons.

I was ok with this when I thought they were going to give away a HIGHER quantity of lvl 90 weapons to NA and EU folks.

But only one person gets to win?

Really? Just one? What the mother of all *****.
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It's almost as if some people are literally incapable of understanding that not everyone prioritizes effort:reward ratio in a video game.


In games/cases where your reward often comes at the expense of the effort of other people, it usually should be prioritized.
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