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How hard would FFXI be...Follow
If it had a 'Hardcore' server? :3
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Airships on fire off the shoulder of Bahamut. I watched Scapula Beams glitter in the dark near the Three Mage Gate...
You're new here, aren't you?
Nilatai wrote:
Vlorsutes wrote:
There's always...not trolling him?
You're new here, aren't you?
Just log in without using windower and see for yourself.
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Depends on which version of 'Hardcore' you mean. Do you mean using nothing extra, like windower, or do you mean in the Diablo 3 sense in which your character is gone once it dies? The latter would make it nigh-impossible. Death in XI is inevitable... *puts on Smith glasses*.
See You Space Cowboy
Assuming you mean the "die once and you're done; 'there are no continues, my friend'" variety, I wouldn't say it would necessarily be hard, just that there would be some activities that people would probably never do because the risk of death is too great >_>
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Just log in without using windower and see for yourself.
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I mean permadeath, yeah.
I think I wouldn't have gotten past level 16 or so. That seemed the 'breaking point' in the dunes back in the day.
Just figure though... People would carry potions for emergencies. Low level parties would be PLed 100% of the way. Most HNMs would never be touched!
Edited, Jul 1st 2012 7:35am by Raelix
I think I wouldn't have gotten past level 16 or so. That seemed the 'breaking point' in the dunes back in the day.
Just figure though... People would carry potions for emergencies. Low level parties would be PLed 100% of the way. Most HNMs would never be touched!
Edited, Jul 1st 2012 7:35am by Raelix
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Airships on fire off the shoulder of Bahamut. I watched Scapula Beams glitter in the dark near the Three Mage Gate...
You're new here, aren't you?
Nilatai wrote:
Vlorsutes wrote:
There's always...not trolling him?
You're new here, aren't you?
Raelix wrote:
I mean permadeath, yeah.
I think I wouldn't have gotten past level 16 or so. That seemed the 'breaking point' in the dunes back in the day.
Just figure though... People would carry potions for emergencies. Low level parties would be PLed 100% of the way. MostHNMs of the game would never be touched!
Edited, Jul 1st 2012 7:35am by Raelix
I think I wouldn't have gotten past level 16 or so. That seemed the 'breaking point' in the dunes back in the day.
Just figure though... People would carry potions for emergencies. Low level parties would be PLed 100% of the way. Most
Edited, Jul 1st 2012 7:35am by Raelix
Fixed.
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I think RDM's neurotic omniscience is sooooooo worth including in any alliance.
Occupation: Reckless Red Mage
IcookPizza wrote:
I think RDM's neurotic omniscience is sooooooo worth including in any alliance.
cidbahamut wrote:
Raelix wrote:
I mean permadeath, yeah.
I think I wouldn't have gotten past level 16 or so. That seemed the 'breaking point' in the dunes back in the day.
Just figure though... People would carry potions for emergencies. Low level parties would be PLed 100% of the way. MostHNMs of the game would never be touched!
Edited, Jul 1st 2012 7:35am by Raelix
I think I wouldn't have gotten past level 16 or so. That seemed the 'breaking point' in the dunes back in the day.
Just figure though... People would carry potions for emergencies. Low level parties would be PLed 100% of the way. Most
Edited, Jul 1st 2012 7:35am by Raelix
Fixed.
Which sort of makes you wonder what the point would be. We'd all be grinding EP book burns until 99 and then... stay in Jeuno because nobody would want to risk losing their 99 to something stupid.
I don't know, y'know? People play Diablo III on Hardcore mode all the way, but I guess that's just because the Hardcore AH is separate for Hardcore than the other modes, meaning they can make more money from the drops in Hardcore mode. Hardcore mode in XI would probably just be a clusterfork of people trying to MPK other people for giggles.
See You Space Cowboy
They would have to get rid of the gating - or no one would be able to access sea or sky cause it would get real old having to get access over and over
lolgaxe wrote:
When it comes to sitting around not doing anything for long periods of time, only being active for short windows, and marginal changes and sidegrades I'd say FFXI players were the perfect choice for politicians.
clicky
I don't really know why you're asking the question considering it's really easy to tell how it would happen. If the goal were DIablo-esque in that if you die that character never comes back I can almost certainly tell you how it would happen.
Book level to 99, then grind on Magian trials to get decent weapons since those are relatively harmless and easy to do. Buy a set of armor from the AH. That'll get you AF3+1 easily and some +2 depending on class and pieces.
After that? They'll all go the same route: pay others to farm the drops they need in certain areas without risk of death.
Final Auction House XI yo.
Book level to 99, then grind on Magian trials to get decent weapons since those are relatively harmless and easy to do. Buy a set of armor from the AH. That'll get you AF3+1 easily and some +2 depending on class and pieces.
After that? They'll all go the same route: pay others to farm the drops they need in certain areas without risk of death.
Final Auction House XI yo.
Rename ninja 2hour as Crash to Desktop.
Edited, Jul 1st 2012 4:47pm by Telaki
Edited, Jul 1st 2012 4:47pm by Telaki
Sever: Diabolos Bahamut Lakshmi
Angryempath wrote:
Well, if you like having your center of mass above your neck, play Taru. Don't blame me when the wind picks up and you flip over >_>
Rog wrote:
I hate you @#%^ing retards that don't understand that the game pre75 and the game post 75 are two completely @#%^ing different games.
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It would be a very empty server with absolutely nothing happening. Ever
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99 SAM, RDM, BLU, WAR,PLD, DRK
CoP: Complete AN: O
99 SAM, RDM, BLU, WAR,
lolgaxe wrote:
Nothing in this game is impossible if you set yourself to the task of actually doing it. Even dumb people can only hold you back for so long.
Lucinus wrote:
when you're hefting something that deadly, you don't miss - mobs get the @#%^ out of the way instead...
Sever: Diabolos Bahamut Lakshmi
Angryempath wrote:
Well, if you like having your center of mass above your neck, play Taru. Don't blame me when the wind picks up and you flip over >_>
Rog wrote:
I hate you @#%^ing retards that don't understand that the game pre75 and the game post 75 are two completely @#%^ing different games.
Raelix wrote:
I mean permadeath, yeah.
I think I wouldn't have gotten past level 16 or so. That seemed the 'breaking point' in the dunes back in the day.
Just figure though... People would carry potions for emergencies. Low level parties would be PLed 100% of the way. Most HNMs would never be touched!
Edited, Jul 1st 2012 7:35am by Raelix
I think I wouldn't have gotten past level 16 or so. That seemed the 'breaking point' in the dunes back in the day.
Just figure though... People would carry potions for emergencies. Low level parties would be PLed 100% of the way. Most HNMs would never be touched!
Edited, Jul 1st 2012 7:35am by Raelix
That would require someone to get high enough to power level>.>
Rocking Phantasy star online 2. And loving it! Hopefully sega get's it right this time. They are having a much better start this go around then Universe but still a ways off calling it a hot contender in today's MMO market.
How about this... Raise and reraise still works, but home pointing does not. You die without reraise, you have one hour to get lucky and get a raise from a kind stranger passing by, or frantically beg everyone on your friend's list to come rescue your ass because you have 15 minutes left.
I think people would be a lot more diligent about reraise in that case.
I think people would be a lot more diligent about reraise in that case.
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Daurdabla 85 completed 3-18-2013 *** Gjallarhorn 95
Hanging out in the Ionosphere these days ::Finale II HNM
Daurdabla 85 completed 3-18-2013 *** Gjallarhorn 95
Turin wrote:
(Zelduh)'s won the argument by going so far off the deep end that no one is willing to follow.
My version of hard mode is simple: no subjob. (Use a mule.) Get to 95 solo (the exception being G1 before the recent patch, which I duoed with a level 55). Actually level 80 is enough. Solo all the missions you can along the way. Note that you will probably need more than one job, as some of them can't even reach their G5 solo.
Protip: not too many jobs work well solo without a subjob.
Campaign battle and GoV alliances are allowed for exp. Mailing stuff from your main is allowed. Abyssea solo-only before 80 or higher. (I held out until 93 to prove to myself just how hard Aby is solo starting with no cruor or atma. I recommend it. Just try getting 10K cruor, especially without quests. I never even had 2K cruor.)
Medium mode: no subjob as a group with friends. Bonus if you go static such that you ding levels at the same time as much as possible.
Fixed.
Protip: not too many jobs work well solo without a subjob.
Campaign battle and GoV alliances are allowed for exp. Mailing stuff from your main is allowed. Abyssea solo-only before 80 or higher. (I held out until 93 to prove to myself just how hard Aby is solo starting with no cruor or atma. I recommend it. Just try getting 10K cruor, especially without quests. I never even had 2K cruor.)
Medium mode: no subjob as a group with friends. Bonus if you go static such that you ding levels at the same time as much as possible.
catwho wrote:
How about this... Raise and reraise still works, but home pointing does not. You die without reraise, you have one hour to get lucky and get a raise from a kind stranger passing by, or frantically beg everyone on your friend's list to come rescue your ass because you have 15 minutes left.
I think people wouldbe a lot more diligent about reraise disconnect then try to get someone to raise them in that case.
I think people would
Fixed.
mikeyc wrote:
Just log in without using windower and see for yourself.
sh*tty game design is sh*tty game design, not a difficulty setting.
Elwynbelwyn wrote:
My version of hard mode is simple: no subjob. (Use a mule.) Get to 95 solo (the exception being G1 before the recent patch, which I duoed with a level 55). Actually level 80 is enough. Solo all the missions you can along the way. Note that you will probably need more than one job, as some of them can't even reach their G5 solo.
Protip: not too many jobs work well solo without a subjob.
Campaign battle and GoV alliances are allowed for exp. Mailing stuff from your main is allowed. Abyssea solo-only before 80 or higher. (I held out until 93 to prove to myself just how hard Aby is solo starting with no cruor or atma. I recommend it. Just try getting 10K cruor, especially without quests. I never even had 2K cruor.)
Medium mode: no subjob as a group with friends. Bonus if you go static such that you ding levels at the same time as much as possible.
Fixed.
Protip: not too many jobs work well solo without a subjob.
Campaign battle and GoV alliances are allowed for exp. Mailing stuff from your main is allowed. Abyssea solo-only before 80 or higher. (I held out until 93 to prove to myself just how hard Aby is solo starting with no cruor or atma. I recommend it. Just try getting 10K cruor, especially without quests. I never even had 2K cruor.)
Medium mode: no subjob as a group with friends. Bonus if you go static such that you ding levels at the same time as much as possible.
catwho wrote:
How about this... Raise and reraise still works, but home pointing does not. You die without reraise, you have one hour to get lucky and get a raise from a kind stranger passing by, or frantically beg everyone on your friend's list to come rescue your ass because you have 15 minutes left.
I think people wouldbe a lot more diligent about reraise disconnect then try to get someone to raise them in that case.
I think people would
Fixed.
I like your hard mode. Also, for the reraise bit: raise timer works like JA timers. It keeps going regardless of whether you're logged in or not. (Or at least I thought it did. I haven't died, d/c'd, and come back more than an hour later since.... @#%^ing 2005? damn, that long? it was forever ago. If it doesn't, then just change it so it does. Abuse fixed.)
Theytak, Siren Server
LOLGAXE IS MY ETERNAL RIVAL!
Except if it were baby photos, it would be like looking at before and afters of Michael Jackson. Only instead of turning into a white guy, he changes into a chick!
LOLGAXE IS MY ETERNAL RIVAL!
Reiterpallasch wrote:
Glitterhands wrote:
Am I the only one who clicked on this thread expecting actual baby photos [of Jinte]? o.O
Except if it were baby photos, it would be like looking at before and afters of Michael Jackson. Only instead of turning into a white guy, he changes into a chick!
It would be interesting for SE to make two kinds of servers.
Zelduh wrote:
The death timer freezes while you're logged out. You can die, disconnect, and come back 2 years later still dead. The day Alexander went down, I killed myself in Port Jeuno with poison, and they dumped my dead body on Shiva after FFXI was back up.
That is quite possibly the most awesome thing I have ever read on here.
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FFXIV: ARR beta - Ghost Bear, Cactuar server
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If s-e implemented a "hardcore" IE "Ironman" server they would accompany it by adding more mobs to the game able to cast the magic spell "Death".
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There are 10 kinds of people in the world. Those who understand binary, and those who don't.
There are 10 kinds of people in the world. Those who understand binary, and those who don't.
I'd play it in one of two cases.
1) A complete revamp of the leveling system so that leveling becomes a fun adventure. If I can 'level' by hunting NMs and tough mobs in the dunes for whatever loot happens to rain off of the level 10-20 NMs, I'm down. Add quests, scripted events, random NM encounters (a la diablo elite mobs, or whatever they're called), and a ton of fancy loot in every level range... sh*t, I'd start over in a hurry for that.
2) All endgame content unlocked (sky/sea/etc accessible) and you start at level 99. If you die, it's GG and you're back in pink/teal/perle gear again and unmerited.
1) A complete revamp of the leveling system so that leveling becomes a fun adventure. If I can 'level' by hunting NMs and tough mobs in the dunes for whatever loot happens to rain off of the level 10-20 NMs, I'm down. Add quests, scripted events, random NM encounters (a la diablo elite mobs, or whatever they're called), and a ton of fancy loot in every level range... sh*t, I'd start over in a hurry for that.
2) All endgame content unlocked (sky/sea/etc accessible) and you start at level 99. If you die, it's GG and you're back in pink/teal/perle gear again and unmerited.
Raelix wrote:
If it had a 'Hardcore' server? :3
Like the whole game was Neo-Nyzul from start to.. oh wait they won't let you finish...
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