FINAL FANTASY XI 2012 Roadmap Follow

When was that?


Let's not forget how THAT would go:

Patch >>> OMFG SOMETHINGS BROKEN >>> yay fixed >>> OMFG WE BROKE SOMETHING ELSE >>> yay fixed >>> OMFG HOW THE HELL DID THAT EVEN BREAK IN THE FIRST PLACE? >>> etc etc

My cell phone games have better graphics then Runescape HD...

Edited, Apr 27th 2012 6:53pm by Telaki

As said, while several areas were added with Wings of the Goddess, most all of them were simply reskins of existing areas in the present. If you were familiar with those areas in the present, there wasn't any real feeling of exploration with going through those areas in the past, apart from avoiding the higher level mobs that frequent those areas. The only legitimately new areas were Grauberg, Vunkerl, and Fort Karugo-Narugo, while the others were nothing new at all.

The chances of a new, let alone several new weapon types being added is very slim, and they've gone on record that they'll never add throwing weaponskills, so that's pretty much out of the question.

The majority of the player base don't like spells being added that are generally considered unnecessary, such as the Gain spells and Temper for Red Mage (because they can't be cast on others), so adding more spells to appease the player base would only be worth it if they were actually good spells.

You're probably the only individual that still has a desire to see the Evolith system brought back, because the majority of the player base found it terrible because of how underwhelming the stats were you could obtain and just how overly troublesome it was to even make the gear useable. With players with several jobs, to have gear that was only useful for a single mob type (which is how a lot of the armor was) would be near impossible to pull off with current inventory limitations. With the feedback that they got from the response to the Evolith system, it's likely never going to make a comeback, because it was very poorly received due to how much work needed to be put into it for such a small gain.

Players want to see new, fresh content, not simply rehashed older content, which isn't unreasonable for us to expect if they want us to continue to play.

SE basically said a pet job shouldn't get the same level of TH without subbing THF as other jobs get by subbing THF. So I don't see Cait Sith getting TH3. I don't even see Cait Sith getting TH2, since gear that enhances pet TH (which SE talks about as something that they are planning for) would then boost it to the same level as /THF.

So they decided to fix those fixes that should have been fixed years ago and you're still complaining? Some people are never satisfied.

the issue is that they're just now realizing that this **** needs fixed, and are doing it during a time period where, while the fixes are greatly appreciated, they add nothing to the game other than easing our perpetual migraines ever so slightly, as we continue to slog away at the same, 3, 4, 5 year old content we've done for the last 3, 4, 5 years and not release anything new and interesting to keep our attention. Bug fixes and the like are **** you do after you've released a big new shiny to keep the players' attention, not when you've not released anything new except zerg-grind content (VW) or rehashed content (neo-nyzul, which wasn't even reskinned, it's 100% identical to old nyzul, except that the mob levels are higher, the NM names and ??? drops are different, and you can't save your progress, which was the one defining feature of nyzul). Legion is new, but it requires way to much effort from the players for waaaaay to little reward, and while they're aware of that, they're not really doing **** about it. That's all they've added to the game since heroes of abyssea. Voidwatch, Nyzul-2, and Legion. We need something ******* new that isn't the same ****. Most of the players who would be really happy about these fixes have long since quit the game because they ran out of things to do.

1min automaton recast (Deus Ex Automata) isn't "long".



Hehe, so true. While I do appreciate the increased effort to get stuff right before implementing it, that whole update process did have a certain charm. The overwhelming deluge of new ****, some of it broken or messing up other things, just made every update feel like a new exploration.

It's a bit incorrect to just up and call puppets free. The job has a pretty steep entry cost through attachments and oils, and items needed to unlock frames are just icing. Parts being locked behind the ENM or Ashu Talif BCs don't really help, either.

Edited, Apr 29th 2012 9:12am by Seriha

Exactly.

Some people went nuts over the WOTG for the "Revamped areas", TOAU for pretty much scrapping the original areas and turning Jeuno in to a ghost town. That only "Low levels" touch...

Sorry but everyone can scream all they want, if you really are that unhappy I would suggest you quit and come back and "Look" in 18 months time. I also remember people getting angry at the fact they were paying a monthly subscription and forced to buy the expansion packs or be left out........

Now tell me SE can win if they "Listen to us"?

Everyone has made some valid points bashing the timeline laid out for 2012... but more to the point, what we want is something where the gameplay is "fun" again. And the most fun I ever had in this game, hands down, was Abyssea.

I left and came back to this game several times, but Nothing really changed, it was just subtle differences here and there. Admittedly, I had some fun with ZNM and Nyzule (even though nyzule had annoying wait times and znm had annoying pop farming), but overall, nothing thrilled me the way Abyssea did. Had Tanaka not screwed over the game's flow towards Abyssea, in favor of VNM / VWNM / crap-outside-abyssea, I'd still be playing every single day.

When Abyssea was introduced it made me see the game in a whole new light, giving hope to jobs that were lost and forgotten, allowing small groups to have the thrill of taking down giant bosses, and dedicated linkshells farm weapons on par with relics. The new AF was the most appropriate I'd ever seen it, supplying stats where they were needed and really making you feel good about working towards it. I never really ran out of something to do, since leveling became faster and I was able to explore more jobs to see which playstyle I liked best, and not have to panic if I didn't have that refresh +1 piece (even though I still wanted and tried for it) since I had atma that kept me going for days. Moreover, I was forced to "think" about a battle plan because the chosen approach influenced what the reward would be.

I know Abyssea still exists, it's not like it went anywhere, but we all see Tanaka devaluing the rewards gained through Abyssea, and it's only a matter of time before he flat out 'ruins' Abyssea intentionally on part of his "I'm back suckers" parade. Part of me is hoping for an Abyssea V2 where we can finally complete the Abyssea weapons, or at least a branched final-version of those weapons to 99 without it taking the currently ridiculous amounts of time (particularly, time that is invested in something almost none of us find enjoyable or want to do) ... but part of me just wants Tanaka to burn in hell, and the team that brought us Abyssea to return to FFXI, and revive that part of the game themselves so Tanaka doesn't completely ***** it up. It'd be the ultimate ending to the game, where all of the old 75 content is now up to snuff, and all of the Abyssea content is up to snuff, all in such a way we'd be satasfied with. Then, after that, if they wanted to add more areas, a new expansion, new jobs etc, I think we'd all be happy to see it, but in the mean time they really need to fix not only what "Tanaka" sees as broken, but also fix what the "players" see as broken. Until some happy medium is found between those, the game is basically going to continue losing people day by day.

That being said, Vana'fest could bring many things. My guess is, however, it will be 95% news about FFXIV v.2.0, 4% recapping the FFXI timeline, and 1% crap. And if there 'is' an expansion for FFXI, which I highly doubt, it'll be another micro-expansion like the moogle kupo d'tat stuff, that didn't really add any content, but just threw in random stuff as an excuse to get to a single choose-your-own-reward / augment item.

Why would a "Vana'diel Festival" spend any significant amount of time talking about Eorzea?

Wow, Stockholm Syndrome much? You've totally justified paying for something you don't like under the idea that it helps the people that do like it instead. I hope I am never that much of a sucker with my money.