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#1 Apr 03 2012 at 5:18 PM Rating: Good
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Finally grown sick enough of FFXIV, I'm going to start anew in XI. For reasons I don't care to elaborate on, I'm unable to re-activate my old account. Just wondering which servers are doing the best, as I've browsed a bit and Asura seems to be doing well compared to others. I plan to play solo for the most part, and am just looking for friendship prospects if there are any to be had.

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#2 Apr 03 2012 at 10:22 PM Rating: Good
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Returnee myself here, in the same boat as you. Seems all the remaining servers have roughly the same numbers after the last server merger, so your best bet is to browse the world forums and find a social LS that is cool with new / returning players. I'm lookaping at Cerberus and Asura. Let me know where you end up, maybe we can start our new journey together!
#3 Apr 04 2012 at 1:09 AM Rating: Good
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Aww... please elaborate on those reasons. I used to play Final Fantasy XIV myself, but quit when they totally destroyed my two main classes (Conjurer and Thaumaturge) by ramping up healing costs and dividing their spells like cake at a birthday party. They turned THM into the black mage oddly (even though CON originally had all the elemental spells) and CON into the white mage.

I think they realised that their original system just wasn't going to work and then tried to turn it into FFXI-2. What state the game is in now is a mystery to me as I haven't played it in a few months (nor have I played FFXI, but for different reasons). I'd be interested to know what the latest turnaround is.
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#4 Apr 04 2012 at 2:23 AM Rating: Good
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yeah the idiot changes they made to mage classes was the death knell for me as well... not to mention the announcement that archer = bard.... I've never felt interested in leveling archer, love bard and yeah, turning a spike DD into a support class doesn't make any sense at all...

As for XI, Xoo I am on Asura, if you do end up there and you see Olor on feel free to shoot me a tell (though truth be told I don't play much anymore) - I've been dinking around on SMN lately (lvl 21 currently) so depending on whether you burn up a job quickly or not, maybe we could duo some pages or something. I've also got a few other jobs (THF (20 something), RDM (60something?), DNC (45), PUP(20 something) I wouldn't mind leveling.
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#5 Apr 04 2012 at 5:13 AM Rating: Decent
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Hi,

I've been back playing almost two months now on Phoenix. The server itself is always busy.
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#6 Apr 04 2012 at 2:43 PM Rating: Good
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What I mean when I say 'active' is what do AH stocks look like for low to mid-range gear? For example, when was the last sale of a Bone Harness and how many are up? Neckchopper? Just examples. :)
#7 Apr 04 2012 at 2:58 PM Rating: Good
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There's nothing really for low level on the AH -- weapons, a few choice armour, if you're lucky. The big key items of old are all for sale, for dirt cheap (SH, Hauby, go for 10k or so)

Leveling 1>75 takes about a week from a brand new account, including rank missions and breaking level caps, so it's not like the low level stuff is really all that relevant anymore.
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#8 Apr 04 2012 at 3:03 PM Rating: Good
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Like I say, I won't be playing to see how fast I can blaze to Lv99. I'll be playing solo much of the time. Is there anyone on any server that might be kind enough to craft some low level gears that aren't always available anymore? I'm not asking for much - just a hookup.
#9 Apr 04 2012 at 3:18 PM Rating: Good
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Glitterhands, as much as I hate to admit it, I used to like XIV as it was at release much more than I do now. I would have given it up a few patches ago, but my wife still likes it and wants me to play with her. Funnily enough, she can't stand XI. :O
#10 Apr 04 2012 at 3:45 PM Rating: Good
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Xoo, you can get a lot of stuff on the AH, though you may have to camp it a bit. While EVERYTHING isn't there, I often find the best stuff is.

Also, although you've expressed that you don't want to rush levels, there is something to be said about even getting 1 job to 75 or so - so you can hunt NMs for gear for your other jobs. A lot of the best gear even at lower levels is r/ex - so while NM drops that aren't r/ex are generally fairly plentiful and not that expensive, it may be worth thinking about taking something easy up (like BST) that can solo some drops for your other jobs.

Also I think you'll have more of a problem making money to pay for gear on the AH than finding gear on the AH. Some easy to farm things sell pretty well but it can be a bit tedious farming money at lower levels. Just stuff to think about.
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#11 Apr 04 2012 at 4:04 PM Rating: Good
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Ah, yeah. I know exactly what I'm going to do to make money. No problem there, really. AND I DON'T MEAN BUY GIL! :P
#12 Apr 04 2012 at 5:34 PM Rating: Good
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Like I say, I won't be playing to see how fast I can blaze to Lv99. I'll be playing solo much of the time. Is there anyone on any server that might be kind enough to craft some low level gears that aren't always available anymore? I'm not asking for much - just a hookup.

And I said what I said above as someone who plays solo all the time and doesn't blaze to level 99. Even for us casuals, 1-75 is but a shadow of its former self.

You spend more time running around for Maat than you do XPing, and I mean that literally. (When I hit 65 on my bard, I left for Jeuno and had to deliver 4 kindred's seal around the world, which took about one hour. During that time I gained more than 5 levels on my dualbox ninja that kept killing stuff since she already had her level caps broken). And that's not blazing fast Abyssea leeching xp/hour, that's plain old Guild of Valors book burning.

Don't sweat the lack of AH stuff from 1-75. There's bunch of stuff you can get/wear that doesn't involve too much AHing:
-RSE at 27-33, lasts a decent while, depending on race/job combo
-Conquest point gear. Some of it is pretty good at 10, 30, 40, etc. Legionnaire's mittens can last you from 10 to 60 easily on some jobs.
-AF. It's rarely great gear to full time, but it sure beats low level items -- don't feel pressured to wear inferior gear just because full-timing AF was frowned upon in the days.
-"Big Key items" are often low levels and commonly sold on the AH. Those often last all the way to 78 (Aurore/Pink/Teal), like the Ochiudo's Kote or Fuma Kyahan, etc. It's not because it's low level that you have to get rid of it.

Essentially, having always HQ or even level-appropriate NQ gear is seriously no longer required -- it's borderline neurotic to try to play that way these days.
Hell, my Ninja is 87 and I still don't have Utsu:Ni or all of the :Ni nukes. (But that's a problem of gil, not availability)

Edited, Apr 4th 2012 7:35pm by Docent42
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#13 Apr 04 2012 at 5:43 PM Rating: Good
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Docent42 wrote:
XooZQ wrote:
Like I say, I won't be playing to see how fast I can blaze to Lv99. I'll be playing solo much of the time. Is there anyone on any server that might be kind enough to craft some low level gears that aren't always available anymore? I'm not asking for much - just a hookup.

And I said what I said above as someone who plays solo all the time and doesn't blaze to level 99. Even for us casuals, 1-75 is but a shadow of its former self.

You spend more time running around for Maat than you do XPing, and I mean that literally. (When I hit 65 on my bard, I left for Jeuno and had to deliver 4 kindred's seal around the world, which took about one hour. During that time I gained more than 5 levels on my dualbox ninja that kept killing stuff since she already had her level caps broken). And that's not blazing fast Abyssea leeching xp/hour, that's plain old Guild of Valors book burning.

Don't sweat the lack of AH stuff from 1-75. There's bunch of stuff you can get/wear that doesn't involve too much AHing:
-RSE at 27-33, lasts a decent while, depending on race/job combo
-Conquest point gear. Some of it is pretty good at 10, 30, 40, etc. Legionnaire's mittens can last you from 10 to 60 easily on some jobs.
-AF. It's rarely great gear to full time, but it sure beats low level items -- don't feel pressured to wear inferior gear just because full-timing AF was frowned upon in the days.
-"Big Key items" are often low levels and commonly sold on the AH. Those often last all the way to 78 (Aurore/Pink/Teal), like the Ochiudo's Kote or Fuma Kyahan, etc. It's not because it's low level that you have to get rid of it.


Ah, well, I am quite neurotic. Question: How much EXP do you receive, unassisted and solo from an EM mob? It sounds like you can literally count on 2 hands how many mobs it takes to kill to get from Lv1-10. Is that right? Are we now able to solo VT-IT with no trouble?

What about the game, in its core, has changed about the game since Aug. 2010? I played from 2005 up to that point, btw.
#14 Apr 04 2012 at 5:53 PM Rating: Good
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Ah, well, I am quite neurotic. Question: How much EXP do you receive, unassisted and solo from an EM mob? It sounds like you can literally count on 2 hands how many mobs it takes to kill to get from Lv1-10. Is that right? Are we now able to solo VT-IT with no trouble?

What about the game, in its core, has changed about the game since Aug. 2010? I played from 2005 up to that point, btw.

You get double XP from before, so an even match is 200 XP solo, and a VT-IT would be 400 before XP chain or rings.

That's not how people XP anymore, though -- it's just painfully slow to attack even match, and still as suicidal as before to attack tough or above on your own (even match and lower mob have a pretty extreme penalty to accuracy and attack, making them MUCH MUCH easier. This bonus only applies to old Vana'diel areas, when you have Signet on)

People get XP mostly from running Guilds or Fields of Valor; books that give training regiments, such as "kill 4 land worms and 2 bees." and reward you with something like 320 xp, 320 gil and 32 points. The points can be redeemed for free food buffs, protect, reraise, teleports, etc.

At mid/high level, a page will give a base of 1200-2100 xp, depending on area, number of mobs and so on. The mobs themselves only need to give "some" XP to count for the page's progress (So no {Too Weak} mobs). Once you hit level 60+ monsters, they never turn {Too weak}; they're {Easy Prey} even to a level 99. Meaning many level 99 will do training regiments against level 60 enemies (Who die in 1 WS about), give 2-9 xp per kill, but 2100 every 9 mobs or so.

Also, Grounds of Valor (Same as Fields, but inside Dungeons) also give "Prowesses" every page you complete -- attack speed increase, HP increase, Cure potency increase, WS damage increase, etc. Those bonuses stack with each other, and can also stack with themselves (you can get many levels of attack speed increase, etc.) Also, every page increase the XP by 4%, so by 25 pages (the cap), you have +100% XP bonus per page. In other words, you get about 4,200 xp for plowing through monsters that you more or less one shot.

The page XP is not divided when in party or alliance, just the mob XP (Which can fall as low as 1 xp per kill). So imagine if you 18 people running around killing everything, 9 kills may take about 1 minute, and give 4200 xp to everyone. That would be 252,000 xp per hour for every party member.
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#15 Apr 04 2012 at 6:00 PM Rating: Good
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XooZQ wrote:
Ah, well, I am quite neurotic. Question: How much EXP do you receive, unassisted and solo from an EM mob? It sounds like you can literally count on 2 hands how many mobs it takes to kill to get from Lv1-10. Is that right? Are we now able to solo VT-IT with no trouble?

What about the game, in its core, has changed about the game since Aug. 2010? I played from 2005 up to that point, btw.


Generally it's faster just to mass slaughter EPs (outside of FoV/GoV, even, although they obviously speed it up even more) than to go for higher XP per kill.

As for leveling spots, as long as you stay in the same zone, you keep your maxed page XP bonuses and prowesses from Grounds of Valor even if you log out between sessions, so staying at a camp level-synced down to a party will help you get lots of XP while the party lasts, and then you can solo XP later, keeping your prowesses and maxed pages if you want to get on and solo for however long.

Case in point, some friends of mine who quit for XIV came back about 2 weeks ago on new accounts, and are really casual players. They're both already 55+, and one of them has a 50 job as well (they are husband and wife, and the wife has more playtime during the day so she's leveling BLM on the side, but they have been doing their limit breaks together). I expect by the end of next week they'll be 75+, and after that they'll have their run of Abyssea and the ability to reach 99, and the whole game opens up at that point.

If any of the above doesn't make sense, it's probably due to the copious amounts of medication I'm on the moment, so if I said something unusual just ignore it/roll with it/make it your signature.
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#16 Apr 04 2012 at 6:25 PM Rating: Good
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Okay, that sounds good to me Docent. I don't mind a little EXP boost from FoV as the book Refresh did help quite a bit soloing on mage jobs. Playing BST and every main (minus DRG, SMN and PUP), with /BST, Even Match and Tough are my main targets. Tough-VT if I'm playing NIN/BST.
#17 Apr 07 2012 at 2:10 PM Rating: Good
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Hey Zoo, did you start a new character yet? I'm really strongly considering returning to FFXI, from scratch, and much like yourself, not looking to blaze through levels but rather play it a bit like I remembered it and hopefully have some friendship prospects so that I can keep myself busy with a social element. If you're not too far along, I'd love to join you with a clean slate on whatever server you've chosen. I'm coming back over from XIV as well.
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#18 Apr 09 2012 at 2:00 PM Rating: Good
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Yes I did. I started on Asura, literally yesterday evening. Been as great and fun as I remembered it to be! My wife, (also an XIV player), will be coming with me soon as well. See you ingame. /sea all Eyeballed :)
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