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#27 May 03 2007 at 12:16 PM Rating: Good
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SMNLORDDev wrote:

The short one, with the sharkish grin, gets very close to me. He seems interested in my Summoner's Horn.

"Why do you have a d i c k on your face?"


I almost fell of my chair
#28 May 03 2007 at 12:17 PM Rating: Excellent
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No no, shh, he is legend.
#29 May 03 2007 at 12:17 PM Rating: Excellent
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i actually believed this was genuine, i thought he was tryin to prove SMN could melee well along side an avatar @.@
i still believed him, infact, when he started talking about going out to try it 'for real'. and i have no idea why i DID believe him. but yeah, then when he got to the bit about fighting the 'negros' i slapped myself for thinking this could possibly be anything but a joke thread.

<3 teh joke threads
#30 May 03 2007 at 12:20 PM Rating: Excellent
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Starts off slow but redeems itself after "maintenance and Plan B". Nice work, had me LOLing.
#31 May 03 2007 at 12:22 PM Rating: Excellent
lmfao funny as hell if it was RL then u got big BALLS dude.just to wear the gear lol.
#32 May 03 2007 at 12:28 PM Rating: Excellent
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SMNLORDDev wrote:
There has been a lot of debate over the very important issue of the Summoner job: Should we melee, if we can?

... snip ...


It was at this point I lost consciousness. Apparently, I was punched in the face again, but it all seems like a blur now. I woke up several hours later on a park bench. On my chest laid my Claustrum, broken... they've soiled a treasure, those fools.

I walk to my Bike and I ride home. Maybe maintenance is over. Stupid @#%^s.


So, in response to the original question, I guess this means no meelee for smn.
#33 May 03 2007 at 12:30 PM Rating: Excellent
If I had a BRD and maybe some Warcry from a Warrior in the party, I could have easily lasted a lot longer. I didn't say SUMMONER COULD TANK, I said they could melee. Really now, what do you take me for? A bafoon?
#34 May 03 2007 at 12:33 PM Rating: Excellent
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God bless you good sir. I'm so excited I have to pee.
#35 May 03 2007 at 12:36 PM Rating: Good
To the back line, cure boy. More cures, pls.
#36 May 03 2007 at 12:36 PM Rating: Good
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the second i saw the 3 "negroes" come in (by the way OP, the 'stupid' was totally unnecessary), i scanned for the bel-airness.

i was very surprised not to see any ^^ amusing read.
#37 May 03 2007 at 12:37 PM Rating: Excellent
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This may be a joke thread... But they really can melee! I will show the world!
#38 May 03 2007 at 12:37 PM Rating: Good
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This is the first post on Alla where I have actually laughed out loud. And what makes it even worse is - i'm at work.
This is definatly the first time I have ever tried so hard not to laugh - it caused tears to come from my eyes because of something i read on an internet forum.

When I log on tonight, I will make every one in my LS read this.

So funny - Rate up for everyone!
#39 May 03 2007 at 12:40 PM Rating: Decent
Wow, that was pretty hilarious.

I hope people don't get upset over the over-the-top racism, because it appeared to all be in jest.

Even if it does upset some people, it's still hilarious.
#40 May 03 2007 at 12:45 PM Rating: Good
Acturus wrote:
posting in a legendary thread.

Wow.


#41 May 03 2007 at 12:45 PM Rating: Default
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#42 May 03 2007 at 12:57 PM Rating: Excellent
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So THIS is what would happen if Bloodninja played FFXI and there was maintenance.
#43 May 03 2007 at 1:03 PM Rating: Good
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**Just for fun**

SMN/WAR with:
Perdu Wand,Viking Shield,Tiphia Sting,O.hat,Chiv.Chain,Merman Earx2,Tabin Jupon+1,Tabin Bracers+1,Triumpth Ringx2,Bellicose Mantle,Potent Belt,Prince Slops and Tabin Boots+1. Gonna have to add 8 club merits too.

Thats Acc+47, Att+50, STR+18 and Club Skill 241 w/Black Halo. SMN/WAR base strength is 59, WAR is 77, this at least gets you to WAR base. Perdu Wand is DMG 39/Delay216 under 100TP and during WS.

**Just for fun**
#44 May 03 2007 at 1:35 PM Rating: Default
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Wow, you're about as funny as Michael Richards. Racial comments are often a part of comedy, but they typically contribute to the joke. Yours didn't at all. They are both unnecessary and obscene, and a nice reflection of the common gamer stereotype of the the uneducated, pasty, fat,white kid who doesn't have an ounce of social competence in him.

5% of this was mildly amusing, the rest was garbage and we should be a little ashamed to have showered it with so much praise.

Someone please lock it.
#45 May 03 2007 at 1:39 PM Rating: Excellent
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Lailie wrote:
Wow, you're about as funny as Michael Richards. Racial comments are often a part of comedy, but they typically contribute to the joke. Yours didn't at all. They are both unnecessary and obscene, and a nice reflection of the common gamer stereotype of the the uneducated, pasty, fat,white kid who doesn't have an ounce of social competence in him.


Wow, Michael Richards reference, how original when debasing ethnic slur usage.

If my rules of comedic engagment are still up to date, self-deprecating humor and ethnic references from the point of view of self-deprecated individual allow it.

But hey, it's comedy, which is alwasy subjective.
#46 May 03 2007 at 1:40 PM Rating: Good
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Dude, you shoulda just HP'd the first time you got knocked down, taking an RB then getting knocked down again, that must suck O_o
#47 May 03 2007 at 1:51 PM Rating: Decent
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Thats Acc+47, Att+50, STR+18 and Club Skill 241 w/Black Halo. SMN/WAR base strength is 59, WAR is 77, this at least gets you to WAR base. Perdu Wand is DMG 39/Delay216 under 100TP and during WS.


Not as good as a staff. Retribution is a lot better at 100 than black halo in any case.

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So THIS is what would happen if Bloodninja played FFXI and there was maintenance.


For some reaosn I picture bloodninja brutally mutilating his opponents before feeding them to his rhinocerous...

not getting owned

Edited, May 3rd 2007 5:52pm by Pensive
#48 May 03 2007 at 1:55 PM Rating: Default
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If my rules of comedic engagment are still up to date, self-deprecating humor and ethnic references from the point of view of self-deprecated individual allow it.


Right, but the OP is not an African American comedian in a night club. He is an anonymous poster on the internet. Text online does not have the point of view of that individual and so its inappropriate to make these kind of comments.
#49 May 03 2007 at 2:00 PM Rating: Good
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Very funny story, and I did begin to wonder if the poster was...psychotic in some way....

The story did make me a bit uncomfortable because of the racial reference.
There's a self-reflexiveness in how the writer describes the boys in the park - it's as if he's aware his description is racist, but he is trying hard to make it not so. In one sentence, the boys are "African-Americans". In another they are "blacks", in others they are "Negros".

I understand your trying to convey a sense of fear or dread, but you have to understand that that feeling, about a particular race, is Racist, no matter how you dress it up.

That said, it is, unfortunately, a part of our lives. >< As a writer, you don't run away from conflicts, you address them. But how do you do that without sounding like you were born into the Church of White Power?
The first problem is, the piece is written in first person - this is YOU talking.
If the piece was written from 3rd person, and you were an OBSERVER to someone else's actions, you would feel much more free to put strongly racist words in their mouth, ala the first 5 minutes of "The Departed".

The second problem is, that part of the story isn't supposed to be about who's confronting you, it's about you confronting your feelings of Summoner inadequacy. But you don't describe yourself, you don't describe the crowd of kids that gathered to watch, but you take the time to describe the kids you confront.
Now the story isn't about your SMN adventures - it's about how you feel about blacks.

There's no reason to bring race into your story, even if it were a true story. You could say "some tough looking kids", and it would be just as well. You could go even further, "Some urban-looking kids" "Some kids straight out of a 50-Cent video", or whatever, and not cross this line.
But as written, the piece says to the reader "Black people scare me", and expects this attitude will resonate with the reader. That's racist.
And it's unfortunate, because it ruins an otherwise hilarious edge-of-sanity rant, and because it's sad people continue to perpetuate these types of things.





Edited, May 3rd 2007 5:06pm by Turnerbrown
#50 May 03 2007 at 2:03 PM Rating: Excellent
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While the post aims to be generally funny, I don't appreciate in the slightest bit the racism in this post.

I'd suggest editing out the racial parts and keeping what's actually funny, as a complaint will get this post nuked.
#51 May 03 2007 at 2:21 PM Rating: Excellent
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It's easier to take offense for some than it is to enjoy some humor... such a shame that everyone has to constantly walk on politically correct eggshells. I guess being in a multi-culture marriage for 12 years and having children that look more like someone elses makes me desensitized.

The main character was the epitome of a gaming geek and I'm assuming he was trying to relate the three kids as park thugs. Gahhhhh... just leave blanks and let each race/ethnicity/culture worried person fill them in as desired so this doesn't get pulled from the boards.

I would love to see a Youtube rendition of this actually... I have this image of that midget from Mencia playing the part of the main character... quite amusing.
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