I support gil buying.Follow

This thread is I will say right now retarded...

It kicks off stating that players with poor gear slow down xp, this is a fact. The solution is equally simple if the player is wearing crap kick them and replace. There that simple, no more xp problem. You get moochers because they're tolerated, equally if I was aware I had a gil buyer in a party I would kick or leave and have done so on more than one occasion.

There is the point that the end game players of a certain level are past the point where the economy impacts them much, again fact. That you are not interested in fostering an economy which encourages the comunity to continue to grow and develop in a game you obviously enjoy is again retarded. Eventually the disregard of the elite for the good old prole is what ends most communities / civilisations.

Again the old argument that FFXI is just a game is trotted out, and again that is fact. Football is just a game also would you applaud a team that won simply by buying off officials and using steroids. By the logic you're currently displaying the answer is yes.

I know most of the adults have left the site but for crying out were they the only ones with any sense.

To those of you actually making sense, well done.

At the end of the day the way you chose to play is down to you, no one has to like it other than you. If you feel that watching the xp numbers tick over is al that counts then I understand why you'd take the stance. All I'll say is I can provide an online counter that tics up about 8000 every hour you care to sit in front of it if you like. That to me is the same level of achievement as levelling without really ever playing.

Idiots.

Tell that to SE.

I'm guessing you're L75. A lot of the 24/7 players seem to have forgotten what it's like to get there.

Up until endgame you basically have levelling, and missions.

Mission ranks are setup to be doable roughly every 10 levels.. missions are fairly fast (except those that need parties, and you could be stuck for weeks waiting for a party for those).

Getting 10 levels is a *lot* slower (unless you're one of those uber 24/7 players who never sleeps) - 90% of the time levelling *is* the purpose of the game.

btw. your football analogy breaks down. It's more like saying would you applaud a team that bought all the best players instead of training them from the ground up? Well the fact is that's exactly what happens in the real world... football teams with more money get better results because they buy the better players.

Yes, you can. And not just your character that got the gil. Your entire playonline account.

yeah, I think he/she is.




Edited, Sat May 6 07:57:05 2006 by Dmer

Because that's all this game is about right?

Sad.

And, yes, rate down. Because you're happy to have people drag this game down for others to benefit your EXP per hour.

I was wondering when this would turn into a windower debate.

I now announce that the majority of the PC community is a bunch of cheaters! Let's all bot and buy gil, since how I use MY pc is obviously SE's business.

Sorry, but you are selfish. And yeah, I have every right to call you that.

You haven't played the game at all. Some of the people that want to enjoy this game have invested 100+ DAYS of playtime in to the game only to be screwed over by the RMT (the people who'll most likely profit when you sell your account.)

Are you seriously going to try to tell me that if you invested that much play time in to a game, only to have these people continually take the fun out of a game that your trying to play and enjoy, you wouldn't get pissed off at them (and in turn at people who make posts such as yours?)

Start playing. Have fun interacting with people who, in the name of having fun in their game, ruin the experience for the remaining 5 people in the party.

You will be severely annoyed. Angry at them. Just remember to tell yourself that it's just a game and have a good laugh.

To some people, this game (and this forum) IS their life, hence the reason they are getting so defensive about everything.

Yeah, and the last time you asked, was being selfish considered a virtue?

How you get where you are would be your problem alone if you lived in a void of space with only yourself. The moment you get a party, purchase from or sell on the AH, or even shout for help from another player in the game, you've suddenly made it someone else's problem. 'cause when you hit endgame in all your personal glory, you then might assume such a selfish stance as the OP and step over everyone you used to get there. So, uh, yeah, it is their problem, too.

Do you really not get the concept of the MMORPG? Massively multiplayer. Does that compute?

FFXI ain't the kind of game you can solo your entire way through, either. Did ya farm all your own craft materials and crystals?

I can't believe you can't separate a felony from a misdemeanor, either. If anything, whether you care or not, you should understand why a majority of the people posting dislike gilselling. Whether you tolerate it or not, and yes it will always be there just as crime is always there, the point is, why in the world would you support it in ANY way? That's why CellyO's being so selfish. This isn't a crusade against gilselling, or a witch hunt over gilbuyers. Like you, when what's done is done, I could care less about who bought gil or not. My friend bought gil, but he at least had some form of a reason and I did not disown him. I am above a video game in that sense. But that doesn't mean I'll suddenly turn around and support it knowing it still ruins the experience for others; many, many, MANY, MANY, MANY, others. Hence the "massively multiplayer". Are you getting it yet?

The point is, sure, you don't have to go on a witch hunt or a crusade, and how you get where you are and how you enjoy the game is fine. But at the point that how you play or the kind of playstyle you support ruins the experience for a large majority, "liberal" or not, you can expect a negative response. Really, try to connect the dots from now on by yourself instead of spewing stuff you hear on TV.

No offense, but ppl who buy gil through IGE, or any other company that promotes it.... is a dumba$$ noob...

Instead of taking the easy way out and making other players life miserable (as well as ruining the in-game economy), u could actually try to EARN ur gil instead of buying it...

Buying gil is the equivalent to a cheatcode... a really gay cheapa$$ cheatcode...

The purchasing of gil is ONE of the key factors that have made the "Good Gear" expensive and difficult to obtain. Using sneaky and underhanded methods they price gouge people into buying gil or wear gimp gear. You should remember the big account ban not to long ago?

If you, on such a demanding schedule and limited amount or time, can get several jobs to 75 then any of these lazy asshats should have plenty of time to farm. There are mobs in the newbie zones I have farmed for nearly 200k an hour and mining runs for over a million with little time and effort.

If you cant afford to play this game or have more important things to do, and for the sake of your real life plz quit, this game is not for you. Lastly, and not to sound melodramatic, this "If I get something out of it then I don't care attitude is what's destroying this world.

or my be I'am just out of my mind

Very true!

It's quite strange how there are people out there who can exp and feel like they've accomplished something. They can complete quests or missions and feel that they've accomplished something. But when it comes to doing something that earns gil (such as farming), that isn't seen as an accomplishment.

Rate down, not only is your "argument" marred with fallacious claims, but just your whole notion of fun is ludicrous.



What drives more people to play/continue to play the game is for various conceptions of what fun is. For you, fun is getting more EXP per hour (/cheer), others just want to run around poking things, craft, solo, camp, cyber, w/e, get the point?

Decent, if not dubious assumptions though, a fallacy of presumption I believe? ;o If I see you running around Gilga, I’ll laugh at you (no, not an Ad Homien lol…) :p