I support gil buying.Follow

Let's say you own a bakery.

Now, someone opens another bakery in front of yours. But they don't make their own bread, the take yours and sell it.

That's what gilselling is, outside of SoE's specific RMT server.

And that's why your "support" so that you can "level faster" is not only childish, but repulsive to anyone that has ever worked.

If SE decided to have a RMT server and sell gil themselves, I wouldn't care. But as it stands, IGE & affiliates are making money off of something they didn't create.
If you knew the work involved in programming a videogame such as FFXI, you'd stop that nonsense.

RMT in itself is not the problem.

Its the Gil Sellers that ruin the game for the rest of the community.

Thats why I will not approve of RMT. You can't have RMT without the GS.

arrows staffs erase and utsu. ni arnt expensive to buy, if ppl are to lazy to do a bcnm (erase and ni drop in almost all bcnm fyi) then i can asure you theyll be to lazy to do their job in a party.

i also dont believe uber gear or uber +1 gear makes you play better, for example i partied with a nin who had SH+1 those +5eva earrings EMP etc., ya he wasnt getting hit but that was because he didnt have hate the DRK and i as RNG were getting our asses kicked as the nin tried voking casting Ni spells doing 30-40 dmg a spell sometimes even less because of resist, our whm ended up dying cause she got max hate after so many cure 3, 4s, and 2hr. we luckly got them mob killed after whms 2hr ofcourse most the pt had to 2hr. after that all the nin was did was lol and /laugh idk what he found so funny but who cares now.

as for farming and camping NMs i think those things have clearly became impossible when you have 4 or 5 gilsellers + other ppl who farm there, so yeah you pretty much have to go into an end game ls, but bcnms should be enought for decent gear to get to 65+.

and for the rampage that misses dont be surprised because ive seen rampage do -100dmg constantly with PCC snipers, but that goes for all ws.

MMOs don't offer challenges though. They offer timesinks and somehow warp your brain into thinking that wasting 4 hours of your day a life farming for an item that offers a marginal increase of stats is meaningful and fun. MMOs aren't challenging, they just take time. Slap a monkey in front of the computer, and he'll eventually finish all a MMO has to offer.

They're built that way. When you think that farming up 37 trillion gil to get an extra +2 DEX and EVA is fun and challenging, then you've already been brainwashed by MMO devs and they have you right where they want you.

I don't often agree with Belkira, but we are 100% on the same page here. I will take someone that honestly makes the effort to be better anyday, over someone that cheats the system.

I play the game to have fun, not rush to 75. I've been playing for more than 2 years, and still haven't hit 50. I've been enjoying the quests, helping others, doing random things, trying to see everything that I can, and just having fun. That's what it's about, and if you feel that you need to rush a bunch of jobs to 75, or buy all the uber gear...go for it. Just don't count on people thinking any better of you. Don't count on people thinking that you're better than someone else. Don't count on having anything to show for that money you spent at the end of the day. Because at the end of the day, and the servers are shut down for good, I will have spent less, and had more fun that you that MUST buy gil.

To the OP...I seriously hope that you get your morals straight. You're got a lot to learn if you think it's ok to break the rules and suffer no penalty for it. By trying to justify the breaking of an agreement that you MUST agree to to even play the game, you start walking down a dangerous road to chaos. Yes, that's a bit of a stretch, but EVERYTHING starts somewhere. Just wait...the economy is really ****** up yet...but it will be soon, and because of people like you.

You need to wake up, and grow up. Buy saying that it's ok to buy gil and do whatever you want, you're saying that it's ok for people to mess up the game for the rest of us. Well, that's not ok. It's NOT ok for botters, RMT, and moronic buyers to ruin the game that we all play. THIS IS NOT OK.

I hate to say it, but this is the post that broke the camels back. I can tolerate the anti-alla posts, the anti anti-alla posts, and even the even more moronic post from Allakhazam himself, trying to convince us that this site and IGE will remain seperate. I knew it wouldn't be long before someone would start the drum banging for it being ok to have RMT...and you fools bought it, hook, line, and sinker. All it is, is something to start swaying your opinion...then it moves to a minority belief...which spreads to popular belief because it's shoved down your throat that "everyone" does it. Well everyone doesn't. I think it's stupid to buy gil at this point. I used to be in the camp that didn't care, until I saw the damage first hand. I still say the root of the problem is GREED...which fueled the gil farming, selling, and buying. Greed drove prices up, and keeps them going up. It keeps inflation moving forward, and you people are just going to keep it going.

I was saving my 777th post for something special, and I guess it is. Goodbye Allakhazam.

Hmm regardless of whether you care or not you left out the whole part about it being illegal in the in game world, and it affecting a massive amount of players in the real world. I could care less if you want to spoil your fun cheating on a single player game, but doing it online is something entirely different. And this isnt just a bunch of basement crawling 13 year olds wallhacking in CS, this is an entire genre on the verge of loosing its appeal, which is an escape from reality. I don't come on FFXI to be reminded about how much money I have in real life. I dont come on to be outclassed by an ignorant player with a huge pocketbook.

MMOs are a hobby like any other, you need to put time and effort into it. It takes practice, it takes patience. I'm going to go back to my former analogy. I hate golf, I think its boring and slow and I dont have enough time to be very good at it. Does that mean I should go out and by a compressed air gun so I can fire the golf balls from the tee to the hole? Somehow I think the other players on the course might not like that.

I never had a problem with gil buyers, my friend was thinking about buying some off of Ebay, until he found out the price. >_>

I mean.. there's nothing really wrong with it, is there? You get better gear, weapons etc etc. I'm not against it, but I'm not with it either. Do what you want, you're the one playing the character, it's your life, and you bought the game.

For the record, I've never bought Gil, and I probably never will.

However.. not farming stuff, camping NM's kind of does make you lazy in a way, and takes the fun out of all of that. I'll admit, if you sit around and wait for a NM pop for 2 - 3 hours at a time, and don't get the claim it's frustrating.. but **** happens.

I'm glad you expressed your opinon, person-who-wrote-this-topic. :D

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I've said this before countless times, but now I'll say it for the last, and hopefully in more noticeable text:

I don't freaking care about how expensive, hard, or time consuming your damn job is. Morons like you, in your greed and laziness, pay the frickin' wages of those who would ***** over honest players. Because of you, I have to fight off 15+ people named something-xia in Gusgen who stand in front of the same mining point 24/7. I want to enjoy this game too, and not be screwed by morons like you who believe their play experiences are worth more than anyone elses.

Of course you support RMT OCelly, you said it yourself, you are selfish.

Of course you like it when people are decked out in endgame gear without working for a minute, why should you care? You benefit from it.

Of course you don't care that it screws everyone else over, you said yourself that you are "free" from the economy. Why should you care? It's not you, afterall.

This whole thread you started is just pure trash. You condone RMT because of who you are and where you are. Everyone else can go get screwed, right? As long as you get whatever you like.

I wonder if you'd have this exact same point of view if you didn't have all those nice high levels or craft. I wonder if, instead, you had to farm up gil and compete with the pricks who blatently lie, cheat, and steal to get what they want.

Or maybe you'd start caring if YOU were the one who saved up all your money and lost it to someone who broke a synth, then couldn't afford anything else because of the jacked up prices.

Why should I care about crime downtown? I don't live there.

Middle east in turmoil? Not my business, I live in the states.

Why should I care if a friend of mine sells crack to a kid? It ain't my kid, and it sure is nice that my friend and I can go see a movie or go out to a bar whenever we want.

God, I love people sometimes. Conditional morals, way to be.

Fact is this, alright? If I ever honestly quit FF11, just plain get sick of it and truly find a new MMORPG or just a new genre to reside in, I'd LOVE to sell my character. I mean, if I'm not playing it, why NOT sell it? 1000$ for all the fun I had on a video game ages ago? Hell yes, sign me up. You can't lose. That would help me a ********* money talks. **** your morals, If I could honestly make alot of money just by selling a character on a game I don't even enjoy playing anymore, then by god I will.

Though this is for the future, being as I haven't even played FF11 yet.

P.S: Latehours, maybe you should go find another game. I glanced at your post and noticed that you're getting all worked up over it. It looks like you don't even enjoy FF11 anymore, so why play?

Edited, Sat May 6 05:28:37 2006 by Kasunpla

You missed the point of my post. If I was offered 1000$ to sell a character on a game I don't even play anymore, like in the future, FF11 for instance, I'd take up that offer.

How ******* dare you if you're sitting here going to say that makes me selfish when it's all just a video game and you people need to calm down.

It's like you people aren't even playing FF11 to have fun now, the way you people make it out, it's a huge political and economical debate where you ***** at people because things are highly priced and **** is off the walls. Dudes, if it's this frustrating. WHY ARE YOU PLAYING?

It is a Game. It is nothing more then a game, it never has been, and suprise, it never will be. We're all stepping into the big fancy **** like "Where's your morals?" and "Have some dignity" when it's all just a game. Go ahead and try to twist this logic, it can't be touched. I dare you to say FF11 is not a game.

Edited, Sat May 6 05:29:00 2006 by Kasunpla

Hard to answer that question. Also, my mistake. It's just hard to tell with everyone out to OOOOHHH BURN OWNED each other here, it's getting to be a bit out-of-hand. I might just step out until it all dies down.