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#402 May 13 2006 at 4:31 AM Rating: Good
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**** Germany had a ToS too. It ended up getting about 6 million jews killed.

But I guess since it was law it was okay, right?


Roflmao comparing holocaust to RMT. I have seen it all. This thread delivers.

Page 9 get tyvm.
#403 May 13 2006 at 5:22 AM Rating: Default
/sarcasm on/

I HATE RMT!!!!!!!!! I loath and hate anyone who buys or sells Gil. Ohhhhhhh look a SH+1 is going for 9 mil on Ah. Hey i got two of those ill sell and make a fortune. OH i HATE RMTTT!!! RAWR!!!!!!!!
/sarcasm off/

You can't hate the enemy if your ******* playing dirty yourself.Oh and the whole supply and demand bit. Yeah theres supply for gilbuying cause you leets demand perfection in gear. Judge a player for how he plays and not how his gear is and **** will change but you ego monsters with your E-PEEN can't figure this out.





Edited, Sat May 13 06:29:41 2006 by TarrisFyrestorm

Edited, Sat May 13 06:24:50 2006 by TarrisFyrestorm
#404 May 13 2006 at 5:36 AM Rating: Good
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Funny i could buy all the money there is for sale on my server and yet i don't.

The moment i pt with people i know are gil buyers my fun is gone no matter how good the exp may be.

I agree that gimped players are to an lesser extent imho hurting fun too, they should be out there crafting/farming mining ect ect to have atleast normal equip and tools/food for their level.

But at the same time everyone that buy's gil makes it harder for those that even think about making gil, your not cause off the problem if you buy gil but you atleast make it a tiny bit harder to make gil for those with little time online, and who has yet to find their niche to make gil.


#405 May 13 2006 at 5:46 AM Rating: Default
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Barry Bonds is a Gilbuyer
#406 May 13 2006 at 5:57 AM Rating: Default
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I HATE RMT!!!!!!!!! I loath and hate anyone who buys or sells Gil. Ohhhhhhh look a SH+1 is going for 9 mil on Ah. Hey i got two of those ill sell and make a fortune. OH i HATE RMTTT!!! RAWR!!!!!!!!
/sarcasm off/

You can't hate the enemy if your @#%^ing playing dirty yourself.Oh and the whole supply and demand bit. Yeah theres supply for gilbuying cause you leets demand perfection in gear. Judge a player for how he plays and not how his gear is and sh*t will change but you ego monsters with your E-PEEN can't figure this out.


Don't know what you're on about. The person who started this thread, Cellophane or whatever, was the one in favor of gilbuying because she felt it made for more leet gear on the players in her parties. Hating RMT was not an issue for her; please notice the title of this thread.

btw a dozen exclamation points and leaning on the caps lock key doesn't add validity to a post. Just sayin'.
#407 May 13 2006 at 9:31 AM Rating: Decent
Way back on page 3...

GalkaAnimal said:
Yes, he's selfish. I'm selfish too. Guess what- it's not a crime. Despite what your liberal socialist teachers are telling you- all money isn't community money.

How I get where I am is my problem. I have no one to blame but myself. The same goes with every other individual who plays this game.

I wonder how many of you people ******** about RMT being against the ToS use windower and have posted cursing [GM]Jcblue.

I look at people using 3rd party programs and buying gil with the same amount of apathy. But if you violate TOS, then you violate TOS- windowers are no better than gil buyers. Yeah, I said it, what?
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All I can say is he just owned 90 percent of this forum.








Edited, Sat May 13 10:49:02 2006 by atheist
#408 May 13 2006 at 11:46 AM Rating: Default
nonokitty wrote:
When gilbuyers finally begin to be banned, I hope you are among the first to go because that may be just the opportunity you need to learn a bit about the consequences of being an asocial tard.

Right, because I'm defending it I automatically buy gil? Grow the hell up.

nonokitty wrote:
But you've led a sheltered endgame life if you haven't seen morons with bought accounts soliciting HNMLSs with cash offers in /shout for bidding rights on god gear. I'm going to presume some shells take them up on it. The prospect of a 10 million gil per member paycheck vs. 1 member with points getting his haidate must be tempting, or why else would gil-buying tards be invading Sky?

No high level shells give out items for money instead of giving it to their members, at least on Gilgamesh. If high levels shells on your server do this, then ***** about THEM not the gilbuyers. They are the people ******** their members out of items.

nonokitty wrote:
Cheating is pathetic and deserves no respect. Sorry, but you can post here till Hell freezes over and still do nothing whatsoever to change that.

And you can post here until hell freezes over as well, but gilbuying will ecist. Whats your point?

sioux wrote:
Yeah, that's so, I think your average American grade schooler knows that.

This, in essence is my arguement. Of course its not fair that money can get you things you shouldn't have. That's LIFE. I'm not rich, and I know at some point I'll probably be screwed because someone has more money than me. It's not America, its life.

sioux wrote:
What makes you think people are just going to suck it up and take it when you, or anyone else, comes flouncing in with a credit card wanting special privilege? What gives you that right? That's not part of the game, and just because some parasitical dealer wants to make it part of the game doesn't give YOU an excuse to throw your ethics in the mud, and sacrifice your honesty and gamesmanship for pixellated currency and a cheap shortcut.

The better question is, what are you as an average player, going to do to stop it?

Let me clear up one thing, I don't buy gil. Even if I had the money, I wouldn't because I feel its a waste. I'm just saying that I don't care where the person in my PT got their gil, I don't even really care how well they are equipped as long as they do their job well.

Edited, Sat May 13 12:47:28 2006 by Trinitee
#409 May 13 2006 at 12:14 PM Rating: Default
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Way back on page 3...

GalkaAnimal said:
Yes, he's selfish. I'm selfish too. Guess what- it's not a crime. Despite what your liberal socialist teachers are telling you- all money isn't community money.


We may infer from this completely irrelevant statement that you enjoy talk radio. Go you. But you forgot about blaming feminazis for your impotence problems, so points off for you as a proper little dittohead.

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I wonder how many of you people ******** about RMT being against the ToS use windower and have posted cursing [GM]Jcblue.

I look at people using 3rd party programs and buying gil with the same amount of apathy. But if you violate TOS, then you violate TOS- windowers are no better than gil buyers. Yeah, I said it, what?
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All I can say is he just owned 90 percent of this forum.


That segment of the forum that's unfamiliar with the term "red herring," yes.
#410 May 13 2006 at 1:30 PM Rating: Decent
Trinitee wrote:
And you can post here until hell freezes over as well, but gilbuying will ecist. Whats your point?


My point is you're a waste of pixels because your piggish attitudes degrade gameplay for every honest player. I don't believe for a moment that you don't buy gil. Be that as it may, the first wave of gilbuyer account bannings will clean up a lot of the dirt in FFXI. I'm looking forward to it.

You will not be missed.
#411 May 13 2006 at 1:37 PM Rating: Default
nonokitty wrote:
y point is you're a waste of pixels because your piggish attitudes degrade gameplay for every honest player. I don't believe for a moment that you don't buy gil. Be that as it may, the first wave of gilbuyer account bannings will clean up a lot of the dirt in FFXI. I'm looking forward to it.

You will not be missed.


By your logic, if someone defends abortion then they must have had one. Well, I defend abortion but I'm a guy... musta happened in my sleep or something. Defending something doesn't mean you do it, it means that you defend the idea of it. Again, how does gilBUYING (not selling) degrade gameplay? If anything its sort of a re-distributive policy in game, where money is spread out among poor players. Some economies do re-distributive policies very often to spread out the wealth among their society.
#412 May 13 2006 at 1:58 PM Rating: Default
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I like pie.
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#413 May 13 2006 at 2:32 PM Rating: Decent
This thread has devolved to calling on *****, liberal socialists, and now abortion. I declare it officially dead.

I like pie too, unless it's the kind with canned peaches.
#414 May 13 2006 at 2:41 PM Rating: Decent
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Kind of enjoy canned peaches, myself..........
#415 May 13 2006 at 3:07 PM Rating: Good
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Speaking of canned peaches, I once ate peaches straight from the can while playing ffxi ;(

Edited, Sat May 13 16:10:09 2006 by Flechaxp
#416 May 13 2006 at 3:27 PM Rating: Default
I was simply using an over the top example to show you that simply because you defend something, doesn't mean that you neccessarily do that act.

You are just mad because I owned you, continue de-railing now.
#417 May 13 2006 at 3:35 PM Rating: Decent
Trinitee The Pieless wrote:
I was simply using an over the top example to show you that simply because you defend something, doesn't mean that you neccessarily do that act.


Pay attention. The topic is not ***** or abortion, it's pie.

ok, I concede on the canned peaches but I think most here would agree Cool Whip tastes odd.
#418 May 13 2006 at 4:43 PM Rating: Decent
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Coolwhip just has that funky filmy taste and texture. I enjoy the heavy syrup peaches more than the lite.
#419 May 13 2006 at 4:49 PM Rating: Decent
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I forgot to mention that I also drank the syrup, and yes, straight from that big-*** can ('.')b
#420 May 13 2006 at 6:12 PM Rating: Good
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What makes you think people are just going to suck it up and take it when you, or anyone else, comes flouncing in with a credit card wanting special privilege? What gives you that right? That's not part of the game, and just because some parasitical dealer wants to make it part of the game doesn't give YOU an excuse to throw your ethics in the mud, and sacrifice your honesty and gamesmanship for pixellated currency and a cheap shortcut.



The better question is, what are you as an average player, going to do to stop it?


That whooshing sound? That was you missing the point.

Me, I'm not going to do anything to stop it. It's not up to me to stop it: I'm not SE, and I'm not a GM. The most it's in my power to do is argue against it as cheating and ethically wrong, speaking as another person who's playing the game with you and is trying to do it by the rules.

Ever played a game with a cheater? How long did you play it?

I'm not on a moral crusade, I'm not comparing RMT to ***** or abortionists or whatever else. The only reason I'm even here is because games are not fun when people have unfair advantages, I don't care how much money they have, I don't care if they got the money by saving homeless people from death. In spite of what GalkaAnimal, you, or Cellophane thinks, it's the individual's responsibility to use his money morally, or else he's just being immoral, irregardless of whose money it is or how he got it.

I don't think a court of law is going to let you off because the money you paid for insider trading information was your own money, and 'you can do what you want with it'. A court of law is there to act on a moral basis, because that's what's just; the guy with the biggest wallet takes all is not justice. That's mayhem.

I'm done with this thread, I've said everything I can say, and if you still want to argue with me then you're not paying attention anyway: I've covered it.

It's not some fuzzy issue you can mess with: if you buy gil you're cheating at the game. The more people do this, the worse the economy will get, the fewer people will be playing, and the less those remaining will be impressed by the gear you wasted real-life dough on. When the game goes under because no one plays fairly anymore, your hard-won money might as well have been flushed for all it bought you, but it might be worth your time to think about what using it against the game in general cost you.



Edited, Sat May 13 19:12:59 2006 by Sioux
#421 May 13 2006 at 11:23 PM Rating: Default
Who cares if the cheaters or the cheater apologists care? SE cares and the typical gamer consumer cares. Yeah, supply and demand will determine the winners and losers in this mmorpg market just as in any other.

But take note, for all their argument and posturing, the cheater apologists always fall back to the same line: "'I' (meaning the conscious self affirmative acknowledgement cheaters, including their apologists, choose) don't care", period. It doesn't get any weaker for them when we clearly see that "They do not, care."

The real defenders of justice have achieved victory in this thread to the extent that all the b.s. alleged general benefits of cheating have been irrefutably dispelled. (See the end of this thread post-Spoiler warning if you want to know what that Victory entails.) They can't deny that cheating by buying gil results in redistribution, results in "cutting in line", results in the destruction of the game taken to its logical conclusion. In the end, integrity to the extent it exists is the only salvation of the mmorpg genre having any value whtsoever.

The market will adjust to account for the failure to guard +0.5 against the blowing away of alleged available content. To the extent anyone is hampered by cheaters is the extent to which game content has been destroyed. It lessens the value consumers will voluntarily assign to the game. Because that is so, there is a *real* overwhelming undercurrent which will lead to mmorpg developers tightening "security" to ensure their content has "integrity" to ensure that their "content" exists at all.

Yes, the barbarians support gil buying, the destruction of civilization, and whatever else. These are the trolls we kill in movies like LOTR and games like FFXI. Yeah, they're gonna bring it on, and as usual, they're gonna lose. Material and Spiritual well being results from free trade cooperation, *rules* (note the Shakespearian triple, if not quadruple, entendre meaning) against theft.

The mass will not buy, will not play, the cheater rife games barbarians or any pipe dreaming corrupt mmorpg developers might develop and advocate. So what if they "support" gil buying? It's inescable for the mmorpg developers to by necessity of the sole foundation upon which they exist to support the opposite of "gil buying" precisely because the gamer consumer is looking to play a game. And soooooo`.......

Part of the entertainment is the forthcoming ideological, material, and conceptual defeat of the heathen "gil buyer" barbarians. Let them play the Beastmen as we play the Adventurers. To Victory!

(Hell yeah this thread is about much more than mere "gil buying". To the Gamer's Paradise (and all the B.-A./S. essays that inspires)! This is about annointing the barbarians by sword or gold, or both. ;p Even women and children, who want the luxury of being women and children, will rise against you.)



Spoiler Warning:
/ma "Edit" <Post>
/p Yes, it's the one and only, suddenly taken much more suurrrilously ... Welcome, Ladies and Gentlemen, to the 2006 MonxDot, y'all, They Got Served Post, Yeah, at the beginning I was about to do that, but now I have done this, Recording. You just saw how I did it. So now you too, know how to get it on and get down.



Edited, Sun May 14 03:08:38 2006 by MonxDoT
#422 May 14 2006 at 2:16 AM Rating: Default
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Who cares if the cheaters or the cheater apologists care? SE cares and the typical gamer consumer cares. Yeah, supply and demand will determine the winners and losers in this mmorpg market just as in any other.

But take note, for all their argument and posturing, the cheater apologists always fall back to the same line: "'I' (meaning the conscious self affirmative acknowledgement cheaters, including their apologists, choose) don't care", period. It doesn't get any weaker for them when we clearly see that "They do not, care."

The real defenders of justice have achieved victory in this thread to the extent that all the b.s. alleged general benefits of cheating have been irrefutably dispelled. (See the end of this thread post-Spoiler warning if you want to know what that Victory entails.) They can't deny that cheating by buying gil results in redistribution, results in "cutting in line", results in the destruction of the game taken to its logical conclusion. In the end, integrity to the extent it exists is the only salvation of the mmorpg genre having any value whtsoever.

The market will adjust to account for the failure to guard +0.5 against the blowing away of alleged available content. To the extent anyone is hampered by cheaters is the extent to which game content has been destroyed. It lessens the value consumers will voluntarily assign to the game. Because that is so, there is a *real* overwhelming undercurrent which will lead to mmorpg developers tightening "security" to ensure their content has "integrity" to ensure that their "content" exists at all.

Yes, the barbarians support gil buying, the destruction of civilization, and whatever else. These are the trolls we kill in movies like LOTR and games like FFXI. Yeah, they're gonna bring it on, and as usual, they're gonna lose. Material and Spiritual well being results from free trade cooperation, *rules* (note the Shakespearian triple, if not quadruple, entendre meaning) against theft.

The mass will not buy, will not play, the cheater rife games barbarians or any pipe dreaming corrupt mmorpg developers might develop and advocate. So what if they "support" gil buying? It's inescable for the mmorpg developers to by necessity of the sole foundation upon which they exist to support the opposite of "gil buying" precisely because the gamer consumer is looking to play a game. And soooooo`.......

Part of the entertainment is the forthcoming ideological, material, and conceptual defeat of the heathen "gil buyer" barbarians. Let them play the Beastmen as we play the Adventurers. To Victory!

(Hell yeah this thread is about much more than mere "gil buying". To the Gamer's Paradise (and all the B.-A./S. essays that inspires)! This is about annointing the barbarians by sword or gold, or both. ;p Even women and children, who want the luxury of being women and children, will rise against you.)



Spoiler Warning:
/ma "Edit" <Post>
/p Yes, it's the one and only, suddenly taken much more suurrrilously ... Welcome, Ladies and Gentlemen, to the 2006 MonxDot, y'all, They Got Served Post, Yeah, at the beginning I was about to do that, but now I have done this, Recording. You just saw how I did it. So now you too, know how to get it on and get down.


QFT
#423 May 14 2006 at 2:23 AM Rating: Decent
And for the naysayers, note the the use of zero "opinion" whatsoever. MonxDoT > you.
#424 May 14 2006 at 2:46 AM Rating: Default
So, if anyone wants to know my stance on Copyright and Patent Protection, just ask. Maaaaannnn, I'm so against it in any form whatsoever. Constitutional Amendment forthcoming banning Any and All Forms of Copyright or Patent protection, by We The Undersigned.
#425 May 14 2006 at 3:04 AM Rating: Default
And, what the hell, might as well keep on bumping this thread to keep at the forefront, the decisions and consequences which have and will be made, by all contributors and readers, both, past, present, and future.

Attempting to fool a fool, is the sole any other rationalization at which you aim, CellyO.

Edited, Sun May 14 04:17:19 2006 by MonxDoT
#426 May 14 2006 at 4:30 AM Rating: Default
I know I sure do like to Post, but
I'm a Poster, and I'm Posting just to make a Post
So

You see I made up my mind when I knew they was wrong
I ain't with no gil buying cheater crap
I'll be an anti-rmt crusader for life
So where's CellyO 10 and twenty years from now?

Probably trying to score some b.s. pipe
Cause you know the smoke she was blowing
After she /cry 's she was only devil's advocate joking
MonXDoT sho'w Posted str8 from Alla which once was something

I got way more argument crushers than I'll ever need
I'll put that on a big fat fact CellyO has weigth "issues"
Cause while I can deliver you a {Bio}tch
And wouldn't dare not make my point

CellyO's bitter argument wasn't ****
And I more than made my point
So you can light that light
While I /target her and /toss and /laugh

And tell you about an ideal from way back
I was under level 40 when I first
Got my MNK onry NM drops
Now I've blown up and I really like to bust crap

Getting preachy in the right thread situations
They want to post misleading crap
Well
Thats a nice wannabee "occupation"

To pwn posers like CellyO when you want and how you want
I leanred from ******* ugly hoes back in high school
I used to tolerate their pretension
As poor genetically endowed blow excuse failed Dynamis extentions

But now I debunk top notch {Bio}tch argument
Open that pie hole
And fill it
With pure 100% Unadulterated Logical Cement

Btw CellyO wants to say "hi"
So go ahead
Dont be
Shy

So if you ever see me drive by posting
Throw up a
Sign
And say Hey MonxDoT Daddy


Slow Down
and count my
/pokes
Culture changing points made in under 1000 posts

CellyO's arguments
Come a dime a dozen
So don't get mad
When I expose the sexually frozen

Her denial posts
Her absolute pretensions
I'll even expose
Her dynaimis shell rules hypocricies

MonxDot
was in the thread
with some Cold
Logical /goodbye badguys facts

So go ahead
and /saulte
Come back and say
Wahhh wahhh wahhh wahhhambulance needed at .com and twentyeth

I'll be waitin'
Honey
To show you what you can do
With that gil bought money

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Edited, Sun May 14 06:09:21 2006 by MonxDoT
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