Grow up kids, the person who "had gil stolen from them" knew it was dirty money to start with. He knew that gil wasn't his to trade for, yet he traded for it anway.
The GM did the right thing and GM's always do the right thing.
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Wow, some of you people just get an idea in your head in advance, without looking at evidence, and then construct the evidence to support your ideas.
"WTF? He's not in Mordion Gaol look at that bridge to his right"
Yeah, while you're at it, maybe you should also take note of how the scroll bar is almost all the way at the top. Meaning he had to scroll up through TONS of other text in order to get that conversation back. Duh. The GM warped him back to Jeuno and this was later.
"WTF? The image is pixellated. It's obviously hacked in Photoshop"
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v238/divisortheory/Odqan3.jpg
So is this one, but I assure you that is myself getting the drop on Odqan. FRAPS saves images in BMP format, the file size is huge. In order to shrink it down I go into Paint Shop Pro, change to JPG, and save using a lower quality compression.
"OMG, the GM misspells stuff. It must not be a real GM."
This GM isn't exactly the most professional in the world either, does that make him not a GM?
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y209/Erinyas/pol2005-08-0101-10-12-04.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y209/Erinyas/pol2005-08-0101-10-14-04.jpg
"Uhh, the ToS doesn't allow them to take items from you. It says very clearly all transactions are final. It's obviouslya fake, duh."
Yea, well you obviously don't know what you're talking about.
From:FINAL FANTASY XI
Jul. 22, 2005 05:00 [PDT]
Changes to Rules of Conduct
The following section of the FINAL FANTASY XI Rules of Conduct has been updated and will take effect as of Jul. 21, 2005:
Prohibited Conduct in FINAL FANTASY XI
The Rules of Conduct are considered to be part of the FINAL FANTASY XI User Agreement. Please read them carefully and make sure you understand them before you play the game.
The Rules of Conduct can be found under "Rules & Policies" on the FINAL FANTASY XI top page.
-Engaging in Fraudulent acts within the game
Fraudulent acts, such as deliberatly breaking a promise, deceiving other players, or conducting an exchange unfairly, can destroy trust between players, and inhibit the healthy growth of the in-game community. Such acts are, therefore, scritly prohibited. Players found to be engaging in such acts will be penalized in accordance with the PlayOnline Member Agreement. In addition, all records of those players in question will be thoroughly reviewed, and all items and gil obtained through such acts will be confiscated.
Open your ******* eyes for a second, jesus people. Care to come at me with any more "proof" of how this is faked?
That being said, as tons of people have pointed out, we don't know both sides of the story. It was clearly stated in the change to the Rules of Conduct that confiscation would happen only in cases where fraud was the intent. It could very easily be the case that this guy and someone else had set up a plan to defraud someone, and this guy was just playing the fool when confronted with it, and acting innocent all the while not knowing the GM had record of all his chat logs. If all you see is this guy's side of the story, then yea it sucks horribly for him. But anyone with a brain can see that there's probably more that he's not telling us.
Edited, Tue Aug 2 16:42:39 2005 by divisortheory
"WTF? He's not in Mordion Gaol look at that bridge to his right"
Yeah, while you're at it, maybe you should also take note of how the scroll bar is almost all the way at the top. Meaning he had to scroll up through TONS of other text in order to get that conversation back. Duh. The GM warped him back to Jeuno and this was later.
"WTF? The image is pixellated. It's obviously hacked in Photoshop"
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v238/divisortheory/Odqan3.jpg
So is this one, but I assure you that is myself getting the drop on Odqan. FRAPS saves images in BMP format, the file size is huge. In order to shrink it down I go into Paint Shop Pro, change to JPG, and save using a lower quality compression.
"OMG, the GM misspells stuff. It must not be a real GM."
This GM isn't exactly the most professional in the world either, does that make him not a GM?
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y209/Erinyas/pol2005-08-0101-10-12-04.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y209/Erinyas/pol2005-08-0101-10-14-04.jpg
"Uhh, the ToS doesn't allow them to take items from you. It says very clearly all transactions are final. It's obviouslya fake, duh."
Yea, well you obviously don't know what you're talking about.
Square Enix wrote:
From:FINAL FANTASY XI
Jul. 22, 2005 05:00 [PDT]
Changes to Rules of Conduct
The following section of the FINAL FANTASY XI Rules of Conduct has been updated and will take effect as of Jul. 21, 2005:
Prohibited Conduct in FINAL FANTASY XI
The Rules of Conduct are considered to be part of the FINAL FANTASY XI User Agreement. Please read them carefully and make sure you understand them before you play the game.
The Rules of Conduct can be found under "Rules & Policies" on the FINAL FANTASY XI top page.
FFXI Rules of Conduct wrote:
-Engaging in Fraudulent acts within the game
Fraudulent acts, such as deliberatly breaking a promise, deceiving other players, or conducting an exchange unfairly, can destroy trust between players, and inhibit the healthy growth of the in-game community. Such acts are, therefore, scritly prohibited. Players found to be engaging in such acts will be penalized in accordance with the PlayOnline Member Agreement. In addition, all records of those players in question will be thoroughly reviewed, and all items and gil obtained through such acts will be confiscated.
Open your ******* eyes for a second, jesus people. Care to come at me with any more "proof" of how this is faked?
That being said, as tons of people have pointed out, we don't know both sides of the story. It was clearly stated in the change to the Rules of Conduct that confiscation would happen only in cases where fraud was the intent. It could very easily be the case that this guy and someone else had set up a plan to defraud someone, and this guy was just playing the fool when confronted with it, and acting innocent all the while not knowing the GM had record of all his chat logs. If all you see is this guy's side of the story, then yea it sucks horribly for him. But anyone with a brain can see that there's probably more that he's not telling us.
Edited, Tue Aug 2 16:42:39 2005 by divisortheory
Fake.
Lefein wrote:
Fake.
Amazing! Simply mind boggling deductive work. Good work, Sherlock.
Lefein wrote:
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Amazing! Simply mind boggling deductive work. Good work, Sherlock.
Yeah, but seeing how this is the shortest post ever for Lefein, I wouldn't be complaining. You don't WANT him to turn into Sherlock.
I don't know if the picture is fake or not, but reading these posts, it seems as though the victim is actually a crook too. I just thought it was weird that nobody got booted is all.
Do you think the GM would have told him to go get the item back from his friend if he was booted? Maybe put in jail, but deffinately not booted. I really wold have thought you would get booted for something of this matter.
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Fake.
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Amazing! Simply mind boggling deductive work. Good work, Sherlock.
Yeah, but seeing how this is the shortest post ever for Lefein, I wouldn't be complaining. You don't WANT him to turn into Sherlock.
I don't know if the picture is fake or not, but reading these posts, it seems as though the victim is actually a crook too. I just thought it was weird that nobody got booted is all.
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Theres no evidence to say what happened to the thief. He could have been put in GM jail or even banned for all we know.
Do you think the GM would have told him to go get the item back from his friend if he was booted? Maybe put in jail, but deffinately not booted. I really wold have thought you would get booted for something of this matter.
I feel sympathy for the player who got cheated out of his money. I really do.
But unfortunately, these things happen in real life everyday. Say your "friend" just got this big plasma TV. Then say a couple weeks later, he asks if you wanna buy it for a fair price. You buy it, and 2 days later the cops are knocking on your door.
"But I bought it fair and square" you say.
"You're holding stolen property that's worth X amount of dollars." they say.
They can throw you in jail for it.
Honestly, I do feel bad for the player. If it happened to me, I would be pissed if it happened in that fashion. However, if the GM took my money and took the item I sold and gave it back to me, I wouldn't be as pissed.
The question that comes to my mind is why didn't ask for his item back?
I would also love to know why a GM got involved in the first place, if, according to the TOS, "all player disputes have to be resolved by the players."
If the guy stole the money from someone else, wouldn't it be considered a "player dispute?"
But unfortunately, these things happen in real life everyday. Say your "friend" just got this big plasma TV. Then say a couple weeks later, he asks if you wanna buy it for a fair price. You buy it, and 2 days later the cops are knocking on your door.
"But I bought it fair and square" you say.
"You're holding stolen property that's worth X amount of dollars." they say.
They can throw you in jail for it.
Honestly, I do feel bad for the player. If it happened to me, I would be pissed if it happened in that fashion. However, if the GM took my money and took the item I sold and gave it back to me, I wouldn't be as pissed.
The question that comes to my mind is why didn't ask for his item back?
I would also love to know why a GM got involved in the first place, if, according to the TOS, "all player disputes have to be resolved by the players."
If the guy stole the money from someone else, wouldn't it be considered a "player dispute?"
Erawyn wrote:
I would also love to know why a GM got involved in the first place, if, according to the TOS, "all player disputes have to be resolved by the players."
Apparently you didn't read the quote from the FFXI Rules of Conduct that I posted 2 or 3 responses above yours.
The new ToS says that a GM can now take action against people who comitted fraud to obtain items or gil. It was in an ToS update that was posted all over the place I'm surpirsed more people haven't seen/heard of it.
It is the GMs job to get the gil back which means take it back from whom ever has the gil at the time, this is also how it works in the real world if you guys don't know.
If I stole 1 mil from anyone who thinks the GM was wrong and gave it to someone or sold a hare meat to someone for 1 mil so I can say it is a legal transaction wouldn't you want the gil taken back? How is the GM supposed to know if this guy had no idea of what was going on? I think the GM did the right thing in taking the gil back, the rules can only mimic the rules of the real world and it is hard pressed to make them better, in the real world if you were caught with stole currency, properties or anything that was stolen you would be forced to return it with no compensation what so ever. Now this person should ask the person for the item back and show him the screenshots of the GM conversation and if he feels that he doesn't need to give the item back then Jiyaa should call a him on him and report he obtain the item through fraudulant means, it's as simple as that.
It sucks to be Jiyaa right now and I feel for him but he should just follow the rules on this and hitem back and get the person who commited the offense in more trouble. Now let the rate downs commense.
It is the GMs job to get the gil back which means take it back from whom ever has the gil at the time, this is also how it works in the real world if you guys don't know.
If I stole 1 mil from anyone who thinks the GM was wrong and gave it to someone or sold a hare meat to someone for 1 mil so I can say it is a legal transaction wouldn't you want the gil taken back? How is the GM supposed to know if this guy had no idea of what was going on? I think the GM did the right thing in taking the gil back, the rules can only mimic the rules of the real world and it is hard pressed to make them better, in the real world if you were caught with stole currency, properties or anything that was stolen you would be forced to return it with no compensation what so ever. Now this person should ask the person for the item back and show him the screenshots of the GM conversation and if he feels that he doesn't need to give the item back then Jiyaa should call a him on him and report he obtain the item through fraudulant means, it's as simple as that.
It sucks to be Jiyaa right now and I feel for him but he should just follow the rules on this and hitem back and get the person who commited the offense in more trouble. Now let the rate downs commense.
Script Error, double post.
Edited, Tue Aug 2 19:10:18 2005 by ChaosMogul
Edited, Tue Aug 2 19:10:18 2005 by ChaosMogul
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I don't believe it for a minute.
For one thing, there are misspellings and bad grammar all the way through the supposed GM text. No gaming company hires GMs who can't use proper grammar and spelling, just as no TV news network hires anchors who can't speak clear standard English.
For another, GMs cannot trace how gil was acquired; if they could, there would be no gilsellers or gilbuyers or scammers. Speaking of scammers, how many reports have you seen of someone who'd been scammed being told by a GM, "I'm sorry, there's nothing we can do to return your items or gil?" Why would the company have a policy of not taking items and/or gil from scammers and restoring them to their rightful owners then turn around and go against that policy in this individual instance?
Also, why would a GM shake players down for gil/items? It's not as though they need it for anything. What're they going to do, buy a Justice Sword +1 with it?
The person posting this is either attention-starved or is a scammer himself trying to get the mysterious "item" back from someone who'd bought it fair and square. The fact that the item is never given a name also strikes me as very strange.
I call BS.
For one thing, there are misspellings and bad grammar all the way through the supposed GM text. No gaming company hires GMs who can't use proper grammar and spelling, just as no TV news network hires anchors who can't speak clear standard English.
For another, GMs cannot trace how gil was acquired; if they could, there would be no gilsellers or gilbuyers or scammers. Speaking of scammers, how many reports have you seen of someone who'd been scammed being told by a GM, "I'm sorry, there's nothing we can do to return your items or gil?" Why would the company have a policy of not taking items and/or gil from scammers and restoring them to their rightful owners then turn around and go against that policy in this individual instance?
Also, why would a GM shake players down for gil/items? It's not as though they need it for anything. What're they going to do, buy a Justice Sword +1 with it?
The person posting this is either attention-starved or is a scammer himself trying to get the mysterious "item" back from someone who'd bought it fair and square. The fact that the item is never given a name also strikes me as very strange.
I call BS.
I believe GMs need to be bilingual (more languages now?) because of the different players that are in any given server. If english is their second or third language the grammar is not too bad, its tons better than what some of us Allakhazam members can do.
Heh, this has turned into a bit of a flame war, eh? Anyway, i'm gonna have to say its a fake, simply because i don't think that anyone with a 3rd grade education would be that stupid. I guess i'm just hoping it's fake becuase if it is real...
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Lylia wrote:
For one thing, there are misspellings and bad grammar all the way through the supposed GM text. No gaming company hires GMs who can't use proper grammar and spelling, just as no TV news network hires anchors who can't speak clear standard English.
That's a really, really poor comparison. GMs aren't hired to be public speakers.
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For one thing, there are misspellings and bad grammar all the way through the supposed GM text. No gaming company hires GMs who can't use proper grammar and spelling, just as no TV news network hires anchors who can't speak clear standard English.
That's not true-I've dealt with many GMs who misspelled things or had the occasional typo, it's actually pretty common. They are only human, and when you're typing fast, and dealing with a upset person, it's easy to typo.
That doesn't automatically prove the claims made in the original post are accurate, but I felt the need to throw that in-GMs can and do misspell things and typo now and again.
Lylia wrote:
I don't believe it for a minute.
For one thing, there are misspellings and bad grammar all the way through the supposed GM text. No gaming company hires GMs who can't use proper grammar and spelling, just as no TV news network hires anchors who can't speak clear standard English.
For one thing, there are misspellings and bad grammar all the way through the supposed GM text. No gaming company hires GMs who can't use proper grammar and spelling, just as no TV news network hires anchors who can't speak clear standard English.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v493/Deadgye/GM.jpg
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people are trying there best to deny this is not real. i've not seen one person show REAL proof this is fake. please people dont always think every GM is a good little boy and girl. i base who people are on the person not because he or she is GM he must be good right? WRONG! This Logic is about as smart as all the people who say all police officers are good, because there officers and they dont do bad or wrong things. human nature to do bad things and to do good things, Dont think for a moment every GM acts in the same order as some kind of computer. these are humans so that means it's very possible the person got screwed out of the gil.
This issue really has nothing to do with a GM doing something wrong, he did his job and did it correctly. GMs can and will take gil/items from you if they were obtain through fraudulant methods. This has been added into the ToS recently and I am glad to see a GM doing something about it. I personally do not think it is fake.
This happens all the time in the real world, why shouldn't happen in Vana'diel which is run by real world people and played by people in the real world? Jiyaa should get his item back from the person not the GM, if the person doesn't return it then Jiyaa should call a GM about it and show people the screen shots and tell them what the Senior GM did/said and that the person obtained the item through fraudlulant means, which he did by using stolen gil.
The gil used to purchase an item was stolen from someone, it doesn't matter who ends up with it, how it was used or what has become of it, it was still stolen gil and will remain that way until it is returned too the rightful owner.
As for taking the gil back from the person who stole it, he spent it and probably doesn't have anymore.
This happens all the time in the real world, why shouldn't happen in Vana'diel which is run by real world people and played by people in the real world? Jiyaa should get his item back from the person not the GM, if the person doesn't return it then Jiyaa should call a GM about it and show people the screen shots and tell them what the Senior GM did/said and that the person obtained the item through fraudlulant means, which he did by using stolen gil.
The gil used to purchase an item was stolen from someone, it doesn't matter who ends up with it, how it was used or what has become of it, it was still stolen gil and will remain that way until it is returned too the rightful owner.
As for taking the gil back from the person who stole it, he spent it and probably doesn't have anymore.
My god thats F'd up, So going by the new rule's I can say so and so promised me 2mil gil and he wont give it to me.
So that mean I can go and get 2mil from someone or get them banned?
So that mean I can go and get 2mil from someone or get them banned?
To all who say this can't be faked, listen and listen well! (This has been brought up before but was apparantly overlooked so I'm going to say it again in great detail.
HOW TO MAKE YOUR OWN PHONEY GM CONVO IN THREE EASY STEPS!!
Yes, that's right. Anyone could make this convo with absolutely no skill required. Here's how.
Step 1: Change your format colours so that /say and /echo are the same colour.
Step 2: To make "GM speak" simply type in this formate
/echo [GM]Yunoh : Have a nice day!
Step 3: Save image with fraps, post it online, soak up all the sympathy.
I tested this myself and it looks absolutely flawless. Alas, I wanted to save it and show you all but it won't let me take screen shots with chat window up. Dammit! ><
So, now that we have established it can be fake and quite easily, let's move onto testing it's veracity.
I'm going to take the snopes.com approach to this mystery. What are we given here? Only the pics and nothing else. The item in question is unnamed. The person who was supposedly victimized by the GM has yet to post any details or backstory information. We see neither hide nor hair of the "Hey! A GM took the money you paid me for that item saying you stole it. Care to explain?" convo that one would think surely would follow. We've not given dates, background info or any details whatsoever other than this person's word that the pic is real and we're being told the whole story.
Wanna be the sharpest net detective in the world? It's easy. All you need to do is follow this one rule of thumb: The less information they give, the more likely it is to be a hoax. If it's legit, the person should have all your answers at the tip of his tongue. If he just posts pics or logs and then vanishes, he's hiding something.
HOW TO MAKE YOUR OWN PHONEY GM CONVO IN THREE EASY STEPS!!
Yes, that's right. Anyone could make this convo with absolutely no skill required. Here's how.
Step 1: Change your format colours so that /say and /echo are the same colour.
Step 2: To make "GM speak" simply type in this formate
/echo [GM]Yunoh : Have a nice day!
Step 3: Save image with fraps, post it online, soak up all the sympathy.
I tested this myself and it looks absolutely flawless. Alas, I wanted to save it and show you all but it won't let me take screen shots with chat window up. Dammit! ><
So, now that we have established it can be fake and quite easily, let's move onto testing it's veracity.
I'm going to take the snopes.com approach to this mystery. What are we given here? Only the pics and nothing else. The item in question is unnamed. The person who was supposedly victimized by the GM has yet to post any details or backstory information. We see neither hide nor hair of the "Hey! A GM took the money you paid me for that item saying you stole it. Care to explain?" convo that one would think surely would follow. We've not given dates, background info or any details whatsoever other than this person's word that the pic is real and we're being told the whole story.
Wanna be the sharpest net detective in the world? It's easy. All you need to do is follow this one rule of thumb: The less information they give, the more likely it is to be a hoax. If it's legit, the person should have all your answers at the tip of his tongue. If he just posts pics or logs and then vanishes, he's hiding something.
And here's the information they DIDN'T want you to see...
http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=35&mid=1120632134687307694&num=36
The Dante in question and the Jiraya in the screenshots are cousins. They routinely play in the same room as each other. Jiraya has also been kicked out of at least one HNM LS on the server for attempting to scam LS members out of money and items.
I'd put good money on a bet that Arfaj and Shagha are Jiraya and/or Dante's mules, and are the "friends" in question. And at last check, Cassie Earrings were running on Bismarck for about.... oh say, 1.9 mil gil. /legasp!
http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=35&mid=1120632134687307694&num=36
The Dante in question and the Jiraya in the screenshots are cousins. They routinely play in the same room as each other. Jiraya has also been kicked out of at least one HNM LS on the server for attempting to scam LS members out of money and items.
I'd put good money on a bet that Arfaj and Shagha are Jiraya and/or Dante's mules, and are the "friends" in question. And at last check, Cassie Earrings were running on Bismarck for about.... oh say, 1.9 mil gil. /legasp!
Only one word can describe this...
Troll!!!
Troll!!!
lol i find it hilarious that every shocking thing that has been posted on the forum in the past few weeks, even though numerous screenshots were provided in all instances, everybody responds "hoax" simply because it's shocking. People who refuse to accept evidence are strange individuals. Everybody always responds to stuff with "I'll believe it when I see a screenshot", but as has been proven here, that's not always true. It seems to me there are things people flat out refuse to believe no matter what, and it doesn't really make sense to me.
People try so hard to look for evidence of photoshopping, when any half-wit can realize that 99.9% of images posted to this or any other forum have been photoshopped simply to crop it down to a non-ridiculous size.
People try so hard to look for evidence of photoshopping, when any half-wit can realize that 99.9% of images posted to this or any other forum have been photoshopped simply to crop it down to a non-ridiculous size.
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The Dante in question and the Jiraya in the screenshots are cousins. They routinely play in the same room as each other. Jiraya has also been kicked out of at least one HNM LS on the server for attempting to scam LS members out of money and items.
I'd put good money on a bet that Arfaj and Shagha are Jiraya and/or Dante's mules, and are the "friends" in question. And at last check, Cassie Earrings were running on Bismarck for about.... oh say, 1.9 mil gil. /legasp!
I'd put good money on a bet that Arfaj and Shagha are Jiraya and/or Dante's mules, and are the "friends" in question. And at last check, Cassie Earrings were running on Bismarck for about.... oh say, 1.9 mil gil. /legasp!
Finally, someone who can actually tell us what has happened. It all makes alot more sense now after reading that thread. Thank you very much.
How is this person not kicked yet? He commited fraud on a grand scale. I would have thought that would deserve a boot, but I guess justice is only a word used in stories, and has no apparent meaning in our cultures.
Edit: I'm still skeptical whether or not it is actually real. He has made alot more money than what has been taken from him. He could just be covering his own *** like a snake in the grass. Now he can come out and claim that he will never do it again and that GMs took all his money away. He'll be back on the "good" list for people, and still have all the money.
Edited, Wed Aug 3 12:53:23 2005 by FFXIandHALOtwoLOVER
I have a really hard time believing that a GM would bother with 1.9M 'stolen', assumedly from another character.
I see people lose this much and more to dishonest casinos in Lower Jeuno every time that scam becomes popular again.
I can't recall any instance where someone has had things stolen (due to being stupid enough to share their password or the like) and their response has been something other than "Bad player, don't share your password."
This 'GM' didn't follow any of the scripted crap they have. Esp. the script that they pretty much universally end their conversations with.
This is the Message Boards. Since when is it safe to believe everything you see here?
I call shenanigans.
I see people lose this much and more to dishonest casinos in Lower Jeuno every time that scam becomes popular again.
I can't recall any instance where someone has had things stolen (due to being stupid enough to share their password or the like) and their response has been something other than "Bad player, don't share your password."
This 'GM' didn't follow any of the scripted crap they have. Esp. the script that they pretty much universally end their conversations with.
This is the Message Boards. Since when is it safe to believe everything you see here?
I call shenanigans.
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lol i find it hilarious that every shocking thing that has been posted on the forum in the past few weeks, even though numerous screenshots were provided in all instances, everybody responds "hoax" simply because it's shocking. People who refuse to accept evidence are strange individuals. Everybody always responds to stuff with "I'll believe it when I see a screenshot", but as has been proven here, that's not always true. It seems to me there are things people flat out refuse to believe no matter what, and it doesn't really make sense to me.
Think maybe that's because it's absurd and absolutely screams "Fake or we're not being told the whole story"?
As AlphaJew (aka Kalani) just wrote a couple posts ago:
Take a gander at that thread. This scam was going on about a month ago on Bismarck.
A little bit more of the story for you all.
Edited, Wed Aug 3 13:23:22 2005 by Xanoxonax
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And here's the information they DIDN'T want you to see...
http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html...&num=36
The Dante in question and the Jiraya in the screenshots are cousins. They routinely play in the same room as each other. Jiraya has also been kicked out of at least one HNM LS on the server for attempting to scam LS members out of money and items.
I'd put good money on a bet that Arfaj and Shagha are Jiraya and/or Dante's mules, and are the "friends" in question. And at last check, Cassie Earrings were running on Bismarck for about.... oh say, 1.9 mil gil. /legasp!
http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html...&num=36
The Dante in question and the Jiraya in the screenshots are cousins. They routinely play in the same room as each other. Jiraya has also been kicked out of at least one HNM LS on the server for attempting to scam LS members out of money and items.
I'd put good money on a bet that Arfaj and Shagha are Jiraya and/or Dante's mules, and are the "friends" in question. And at last check, Cassie Earrings were running on Bismarck for about.... oh say, 1.9 mil gil. /legasp!
Take a gander at that thread. This scam was going on about a month ago on Bismarck.
A little bit more of the story for you all.
Edited, Wed Aug 3 13:23:22 2005 by Xanoxonax
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