Have faith in GMs? Player screwed big time.Follow

At first glance (I'll look at in in photoshop in a bit), the cut off at the bottom of the lines of text, it seems like an optical illusion due to the interface background choice.

I guess not every GM does this or just TOTALLY forgot to add me back to their blist cause there are 2 GM's that I /tell every now and then and talk with and not once have I not been able to get through to them =/. Just saying^^.

There are strange discolorations that are not explained by compression and are not consistant between the images. The same text box over the same background should compress the same way, the colours haven't changed. Even with this extensive pixellation (which is spread a LOT further than it should be, considering the background offers a two-tone line background most compression software would obey beyond a few pixels) there should be a level of consistancy from image to image. Blowing up the images to 800 percent and comparing the same areas, the background has color shifts that just don't appear on their own, in areas not consistant from image to image.

I work with digital art on a regular basis. In my experience, even the lossiest JPG compression methods should not cause a red-shift in small areas of a picture with hardly any red values. I've seen plenty of 'pinking' on screenshots with lots of tells, due to the strong value of the tell colour, but the shots with tells here have far LESS red-shifting than the shot without.

I really can't believe this is genuine.

Edit: Uploaded pics to illustrate (need to be viewed full-size)

http://photobucket.com/albums/b104/zengeist/?action=view&current=colourshift1.jpg&full=true

http://photobucket.com/albums/b104/zengeist/?action=view&current=colourshift2.jpg&full=true


Sidescroll and see how the distortions are inconsistant throughout the line.


Edited, Tue Aug 2 08:58:01 2005 by Aloof

No, the agreement says



Or something like that.


So, in disputes like that, no one wins. IT's the only fair way, really.

OK here is how the guy did it. (yes it is fake)
First he went and changed his say and echo text to the same color in-game. Then he just typed everything out from there, to make the GM speak he did /echo [GM] Blahblahblah. When he was done he just zoned out of his Mog house and thats it.

My opinion on this matter is this..

We do not know who the person is and we do not know the whole story etc..

Its just a post from another board, so since we are not talking to the person who orginally posted it, everything is invalid.

Its like someone being acused of murder and never hearing his/her statement - etc..

Maybe it happened, maybe it did not, but as said, can't talk to the person who this happened to so lets move on.

DJ

I call BULL!!!

The screen shots are BS.. There is no wat this would have happened. If this was the case then every single player that got ripped off would have gone through this to obtain their gil back.

Second the "GM" said that the stolen funds would be returned to the peron they were stolen from. How the hell do you steal gil from someone?? unless that person got scammed. And as we all know if you get scammed in game for gil/items what happens when you call a GM?? They tell you that there is nothing they can do about it.

As well if the GM took the gil back from him why not also get back his so called Item?? Why let someone that got his gil the wrong way also keep then item he bought?? None of this adds up..






Edited, Tue Aug 2 09:06:54 2005 by RdmKelton

Methinks more people should actually read the ToS/RoC before agreeing it. Yes in the past this was true but SE has since changed the RoC to read:

Engaging in fraudulent acts within the game
Fraudulent acts, such as deliberately breaking a promise, deceiving other players, or concluding an exchange unfairly, can destroy trust between players and inhibit the healthy growth of the in-game community. Such acts are, therefore, strictly prohibited. Players found to be engagin in such acs will be penalized in accordance withe the PlayOnline Membver Agreement. In addition, all records of those players in question will be thoroughly reviewed, and all items and gil obtained through such acts will be confiscated. Pg 2 of the RoC

You can change the color of /echo messages? o_O

I tried to do this a while back, and couldn't find out how. Was it recently added, or was I just ignorant?

Why didn't the player just say "Ok, well since you've taken my gil I would like to report someone for trading me fake gil and breaking his promise when I traded him my item."

Honestly, I think these two people were in on a scam together. There just isn't any other way, the GM refers to "his friend" often and I would guess that eaither #1 the person who is his "friend" is a mule or is someone that he's in league with.

In my near two years of playing, I've made 4 GM calls. Luckily, I've had great experiences. One GM laughed at his own spelling mistakes and even got so frustrated trying to spell "completely" that he wouldn't talk about the situation anymore until I'd given him the correct spelling. Maybe its different when a GM gets called ON you, but my 4 calls always ended the same way.

[GM: XXX]: Is there anything else I can help you with today?
Renay: No, that's it! Thanks for your time.
[GM: XXX]: All right then, you have a good day and thank you for your GM call.

Ok, so not verbatum, but I found it amusing how each call ended with the same "script-like" response. Can anyone who's been thrown out of jail confirm that GMs don't always do this?

On the idea that maybe this isn't just the /echo command at work? Don't be so gullible guys. SE wouldn't pull funds from someone unless they had HARDCORE evidence that something shady was going on. My guess would be since a senior GM was on the case from the get go, would be that chat logs damned the parties involved.

GMs say they can't do anything about MPK, but once in Valk I called one because a guy was threatening to get his high lvl character and MPK us if we didn't move down the beach a little ways to kill off his lag. He sent shouts, tells, says, detailing everything. So not wanting to deal with the BS, I called a GM. The GM was in the process of telling me that he couldn't do anything about someone saying something when the high lvl char of the guy had a gob train of about 10 gobs heading to us. He then was able, because of seeing the act and the having the chat logs to prove it, to throw the guy in jail. Without the guy having popped off his mouth? Nothing could have been done, or so said the GM.

Also, remember that big update back on Feb. 14 where a lot of gilsellers were removed? My b/f, Ertyu, had over 1.5mil removed from his character during that update. He called a GM, and the GM explained that he'd been reported as a gilseller for camping Torrent for over 4 weeks, everyday. After explaining himself, the money was returned to him. So this leads me to think that if SE was going to take money, they would have concrete proof before doing anything permanent.

I still say BS to all this though.

The reason for the absence of shouts in Jeuno could be because the player has them blocked...but maybe thats just me. And i fail to see how the pics are farther down the chat log from each other...they overlap.
Please, comment on these, prove my ignorence ^_^

-Tan