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This baffles me, how do you enforce something like breaking a promise? Its like the grade school playyard again.

I just saved the pic, and blew it up 500x, there are boxes around each sentence. I think it's fake.

SE's way of dealing with Inflation LOL..

omg i cant believe what i saw.
mmm that is diffinatly not very on the guy who traded the item for the money.

I looked it up in Photoshop and compared it to one of my own screenshots.
I think it is a fake, if you look at this, you'll see that all around the text is all pixelated compared to my screenshot.
Allthough that might have to do with the resolution, I highly doubt that the difference is that much. (I had to blow up the picture, that is why the font seems "blurry".)

Now that I've taken a closer look at this... excuse me for a moment while I call bulls*it.

1) Take a closer look at http://photobucket.com/albums/b185/Jirayaa/?action=view&current=GMsteal2jpg.jpg

Notice a couple things that aren't quite right. Like the step on the far right of the pictire. From the description of Moradin Gaul, there should be no steps or anything. And 2nd'ly, why is there another Taru in the same picture?

2) Kegaro's evidence of pixel artifacts in the image.

3) Complete and totally bad grammer used by the GM in question. This has the smell of BS all over it. I honestly don't think that SE would be idiotic enough to hire such a person for a customer service position where communication with others is of paramont importence.

(edited... of all things, for grammar. Don't try writing conspiricy-riddled posts at 5:30 am) ==;

Edited, Tue Aug 2 05:30:33 2005 by Kouhaku

Edited, Tue Aug 2 05:41:46 2005 by Kouhaku

I dont know if this would be considered evidence but here's what I've come up with thus far. http://ttxstuff.homestead.com/files/fake.JPG
I've circled 2 areas. #1 as labeled, the big oval is an area of the text in question. Note that blurred/scrambled background in the worded areas and not around the letter "I" above it. #2 is an area between the worded areas in question. Note the smooth/clear background between the words. As someone else has shown, in a legit picture, the background in the worded areas would be clear, and not blurred as shown above. This will prove that this is clearly a shop.

Not to burst your bubble or anything.. but the reason there's a taru there and the stairs is because he's back in Jeuno now. The screenshots were taken after he was sent back. Notice the scroll bar to the right? Plus it was stated they were taken after he was teleported back..

After reading Kouhaku's post, there is one minor detail that is missing...

Now the OP says that the screenshots were taken AFTER he was released from Mordion Gaol, correct? AND he was released in Prt Jeuno?

1. We see no ====Mordion Gaol==== or any such marker in the beginning of the connversation. So either no warp occured and the OP is lying, or, that entry flag was scrolled out of the max range for the log.

2. There is a faint trailing of the pink scroll indicator. This could be a result of the SS timing, or it could be a minor shadow left from altering the positioning of the cursor.

3. This is the one that is most obvious to me. That cursor isn't more than 1/3 of the way down. There is more conversation that wasn't displayed, as it goes from earliest to latest. There could be something that wasn't intended to be seen, that could wreck the light of innocence being set up by the conversation.

4. Also obvious, but coincidences being what they are... it takes time to make three screen shots. How quiet are any of the lower zones in Jeuno? In the time it took to arrive in Jeuno, send the tell, open the log, and scroll up to relevant conversation, not a single /sh manages to be recorded? I know Port Jeuno is not as busy with /sh, but come on....

could it be that they way we take our screenshots make takes blurry? just a thought.. one might use archbell and someone else might use a jp windower, and the next person uses nothing... i have no idea how to tell what they used, but it still looks edited

Ok, a lot of you don't know what you're talking about. I'm sorry, but you don't. Mainly Lylia. First of all, GMs often have horrible grammar, spelling, and sentence structure. If you don't believe me, call a few of them up and have a chat. Some type well, while others simply butcher the language. The GM's craptastic typing patterns in those screenshots are no indication of them being fake.

Secondly, it never ceases to amaze me how many people can't recognize JPEG compression when they see it. They see blurry box shapes around the words and suddenly, being the masters of digital media that they are, declare that the pictures are obviously fakes. Ok, take a screenshot of yours with an expanded chatbox full of text. Open it with an image editor. Save it as a not-so-great quality JPEG (if you used MS Paint, you won't be able to select a quality level, but it will default to a *very* low setting anyway). Now look at the letters. Wow, suddenly your own screenshot must be a fake!

Thirdly, SE *did* recently change their User Agreement so that fraudulent in-game transactions will be punished and reversed. Yes, it's stupid. Yes, it's demeaning to us as players. And yes, it gets the GMs involved in issues they shouldn't involve themselves with. However, it's there in the User Agreement now, whether we like it or not.

THIS IS NOT TO SAY that I necessarily believe those screenshots are real. I'm just saying that a lot of the "evidence" people are bringing up that supposedly invalidates this person's story isn't anywhere close to being valid evidence at all. The thing that makes *me* skeptical is simply that I find it very hard to believe that a GM would try to reverse the supposedly fraudulent transaction in such a way -- by punishing not the person who stole the gil in the first place, but the person who happened to receive it in a trade. That just makes no sense, unless there's a large part of the story that we weren't informed of (which could very likely be the case).

Edited, Tue Aug 2 06:01:34 2005 by CAustin

If I may state that I am not a photoshop pro or even very good, I fool with it from time to time yes and know a few things including JPEG compression. I resized and edited both pictures in the exact same way save for the added red paint in the "fake.jpg" picture. I believe that the "fake" is a fake mainly because of the way that I setup both pictures the same way and they clearly show different results meaning he most likely had to alter his submitted pictures in some way.

Edit: 5 am kills grammar -_-

Edited, Tue Aug 2 06:10:45 2005 by Muninn

(forum lagged out on me -- double post)

Edited, Tue Aug 2 06:16:47 2005 by CAustin