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#127 Aug 10 2004 at 2:52 PM Rating: Decent
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:( I never want to lvl again!!! This is such a great post, I feel like I'm missing out sometimes on the different areas to explore, when I just run in for a quest then leave a.s.a.p. It's so easy to get caught up in the "leveling bug" that I forget all those great "first times." The first time I saw the pirate ships attacking the boat on the way to Selbina, the first time I saw a giant in Qufim, my first raise...I love this thread.
#128 Aug 10 2004 at 3:48 PM Rating: Decent
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this reminds me of something. my boyfriend and i both play over on CaitSith. He started before me so we didint have too many chances to lvl togehter except when we wanted to start a new job as a break from our mains. well during one of these breaks we were up in Tahrongi and though how funny it would be to take a screen shot of him waving infront of a dahmel (sorta like the zoo)

...

since then weve taken probably 30 or so "postcards from the edge" of him waving all over Vana'diel. Its out way of exploring. We have a lot more we wanna take (we forgot when we were in Ifrits Cauldron and out at the Temple of Uggallepih) and we have some really funny ones (him waving in a doorway in beaudeux right as a quad is about to smack him with an axe)

hopefully soon ill organize and post them online for yall to see, but its definately helped to keep our exploring spirit alive
#129 Aug 10 2004 at 4:15 PM Rating: Decent
I think this game has some sort of inner darkness, you know? It brings out very bad things in a lot of people, and I'm no exception. At some point, you become so engrossed with the gil grind, with being platable for being in parties, that you really lose sight of the good things that can come about in this game.

There's something it does to people, makes them turn against their friends and allies. Human nature is very revealing; greed begins to take over and when it's all said and done you don't even know what happened to you, or your friends.

Sadly, resolving the plot is antithesis to the true goal of this game, which is to make Squenix money. You have to rely on others, and it becomes so cumbersome that in the end, only the most dedicated of players can unravel the secrets of Vana'diel, and even then, those who may want to the most just won't be able to.

Hats off to that WHM. Although I don't play anymore, it helped remind me of the real wonderment of the first time I set foot on Vana'diel. That's what the true spirit of this game is about: adventuring.
#130 Aug 10 2004 at 6:04 PM Rating: Decent
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that whm sounds just like me T_T
i like to go on quest in groups with my ls and discover new things and be amazed at the wonderful scenery people spent time creating
i've been playing since day 2 of NA release
when i was willing to adventure vanadiel, all my friends were too busy wanting to become a high lvl
now all my friends are in their 60s and 70s but i'm still in my 40s
to me, lvling is just a boring same routine that repeates over and over
anyone in Fenrir server wanna be my adventure buddy?

Edited, Tue Aug 10 19:14:18 2004 by LordofNightmare
#131 Aug 10 2004 at 6:24 PM Rating: Decent
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That was....well...all I can say is it struck somthing in me....I admit, I was about to loose this feeling, merely because I've already seen what lies beyond Valkrum, though I have a feeling, that with such a thing in mind, and my two first friends of FFXI at my side....I think i can hold on to that feeling.

Thanks
#132 Aug 10 2004 at 7:22 PM Rating: Decent
/sit
/cry
/em laughs about the good times he had done at first
/laugh motion
/cry
#133 Aug 10 2004 at 7:30 PM Rating: Decent
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Well done, Jo /poke now u made everybody cry ;;
haha, good story. ^^
#134 Aug 10 2004 at 8:00 PM Rating: Decent
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Simply amazing...

I feel the same way as that little Tarutaru does. I went into this game to see and experience a new world. To adventure with people from different cultures, ethnicities and learn from one another. And at first I had just done that. I remember readin in my LS chat that there was a Rainbow in La Theine and remember running like crazy to La Theine just to look at it!!!

As for now i haven't completely lost that feeling, but the XP grind and the tons of money needed to continue makes the game a bit of a problem at times. Luckily my goals keep me going. The need to grab that next armor!! Right now My goal is to grab my Iron Musketeer armor and go explore. Help everyone who has helped me out in the past. I help anyone and everyone that asks and that in itself I think has revived the feeling of adventuring again.

I remember just hitting 20 and took my first trek to Jeuno ALONE! I had no idea how hard it was, but as was the case a High Lvl WHM helped me out. It was great nonetheless, seeing these new lands and yet I don't do such things anymore. Avoiding places that I know are hard to travel. Looks like I have to start taking my adventuring up again. I wonder how the King Behemoth's domain looks? Guess I'll have to find out! Thanks for the great story and helping a lot of us revive our sense of adventure!!


Asz.
#135 Aug 10 2004 at 9:09 PM Rating: Decent
/cry

this reminds me of the time i was getting ninja with some ls mates we was so happy to get out of the grotto it was horrible
but then i got that tiny adventureres spark in me and i suggested we explore the grotto farther :) needless to say we all died but we all had a laugh as it was really fun and now thx to this story im going to go explore gustav tunnel tommorrow great story it has re sparked that lil adventurers feeling thank you for the great story

edit cause this really needs to be a sticky that way i can come read it when ever i lose that adventurers feeling :)

Edited, Tue Aug 10 22:10:34 2004 by jailbait
#136 Aug 10 2004 at 9:29 PM Rating: Decent
My posts over on Gamefaqs on this...

Heh I know the feeling, I've finally joined a second LS one for high level stuff, but I'm still thinking of sticking around mostly with my original. I was the second member of it and still talk with alot of the old friends there.

The part of the story that hit home is exploring Rise of Zilart for the first time. That is my big plan for Chains of Promethia. I'm trying my best to level to 75, not so much because I want to be big and bad. But because I want to be the highest level possible and then just explore the new areas. fight new monsters, find new quests. Just have fun exploring again, seeing what is out there for the first time. Getting to be one of the first people to enter new areas untouched yet.

There is something that is touched here, and to me thats why there is the sadness. I've felt this for a long while, call me crazy or not, but places even in games have their own ghosts. Everything you do and see in the game leaves a small imprint. Take a few moments while walking through any place in the game and just imagine what it was like in the past for others, or even your own memories. Many lives and many people have traveled through the game and seen many things.

This is a phenomon*sp?* i've felt with other games. I've spent alot of time playing om Muds, and Mucks and other text based games long before I joined FFXI. And there is a feeling you can get going back through old areas, remembering times past, people you don't see much any more, or likly never will. The ghosts of the past, the memories and friendships you've had. I still hang out at some of my old mucks and muds, afraid to disapear like those before to just be distant memories of friends.

Some times you have to just step back and remember what brought you to where you are. Leveling is fleeting, but the memories of friendships will stay with you all your life, even if you forget some part of you will remember, and some day down the road so might you.

FFXI is only a game, something that could be whiped out in a second by a virus or such, but the memories and the people that make up it can never die. The true heart of FFXI isn't leveling, isn't the coding, it isn't the money. It's the friendships, the people and the things you do and see. The game can be destroyed, but the heart never will.
#137 Aug 10 2004 at 9:35 PM Rating: Decent
Wow. I just printed out the English translated version and watched the movie while dechipering what the JP text meant on my English printout. It gave the whole story a new meaning, especially with the music. Also, before I couldn't see anything but the first frame =P
#138 Aug 10 2004 at 9:44 PM Rating: Decent
(|Hmmm.|) Who wants this stickied?

/em raises hand

I'll need to check back to this once in a while, because it just made me so darn sad...
/cry
#139 Aug 10 2004 at 9:57 PM Rating: Decent
Sorry for the double post >.<
#140 Aug 10 2004 at 10:03 PM Rating: Decent
/em is still crying
/cry motion
#141 Aug 11 2004 at 5:17 AM Rating: Decent
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good post

I really lost myself y i'm in the game in the last couple days. This story may happen to my ls which I don't want to. I know people from my ls are playing in the server, but they are not on the ls list. It just makes me sad that everyone only cares their own stuff (money, lvl, NM).

When I first started the game, I had 2 RL friends and my brother playing FFXI. We planned out like which jobs we should pick and play the game together. My brother and one of my friend were too busy with school work, which leads to only 2 left in the party. My friend got a good ls one day. He lvled without me from 14 to 18. (At that time, I still did not know how to get 200 exp). Then he got his drg and sam. Those 2 adv. jobs are almost impossible to get without hard lvl helps. His lvl was just so fast that I couldn't even catch up on.

Later, he quitted the game. He said to me that this game is kinda boring, except the time that we went to lvl together and die together at lvl 9, or the time when we camp NM for an hour without a drop, or the time when we got killed by a ram in one hit. He said when you see other people lvling up soo quickly, you want to be part of them. It is really hard to wait for the other person.

2 weeks ago, my friend went to Europe. I did not lvl up my main job at all during that time because I felt like I liked to spend time with my friend rather than just lvling. Beside she is drk and i'm pld, it is kinda hard for her to find a party alone.

Now, she kinda stopped playing it for awhile. She gave me all of her money ask me to lvl up faster. Y?? She wants me to help her out later rather than just wasting my time on lving on the other job.

Seriously, it is soo sad that you see a dead ls. Not only you can't get help from others, but also you lose your friends. I only party with my ls members couple times because some ppl are at lvl 30 and some are at lvl 60. However, it was soo fun much when you lvl in dunes with other new people who have all the hopes about this game. You may laugh at some of the wars who want to be a pld but don't know how to voke. I even remember myself as one of those noob who doesn't know the terms "camp" and "zone" are.

Once again, thanks for posting it. and thanks for the person who made this. This really makes me feel more why this game is not for individual...
#142 Aug 11 2004 at 6:11 AM Rating: Decent
Wow that story almost forced a tear out of me. I do feel a strong need to level but the main reason for that is so I can catch up to my friends and party with them. Me and a good friend outside of FFXI started a LS a long time ago. There were actually only four of us. I had things to attend to at the time and when I came back(Months later) my friend who started the LS had quit the game(I already knew this though) and there were many new high level people in the LS. Of the two other members one had reached level 40 in about four jobs and quit the LS to join another. The other was a level 43 Dragoon who is still with us and is now paying me back by helping me out whether I like it or not. I've gotten to know the other members very well and they have become very good friends. I've gotten to party with them on occassion when they level their subjobs but I feel left out when they share stories of adventures they've had together and can't wait to reach their level so I can be a part of it. When I do join their ranks I will finally stop and enjoy the beauty of FFXI. Until then I can't sleep at night >.<
#143 Aug 11 2004 at 6:12 AM Rating: Decent
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Wah, this is a good thread. Nice to see people actually relating to the original post and admitting that somewhere inside the adventuring beats the hell out of leveling.

This is a bit contradictionary to me, since one of the reasons i started the game was the vastness of Vana'Diel and the possibility to explore a whole new world. Guess if i've actually done that? As the game started, i explored whole Windurst, talking to every NPC and learned about quests etc. and leveled in Sarutabaruta. Giddeus and Tahrongi Canyon came next, then Maze of Shakhrami and Buburimu Peninsula. The further i went from "home" the more i started to dislike it if it was in order to level. The motive to go to those places weren't exploration. However i tried to combine these two things; exploring AND leveling. The thing that made it hard was actually my LS where almost everyone were new except for few individuals. The day i started i heard that lv 10+ i _have_ to go to Valkurm Dunes, Qufim, Kazham. Had i ever heard of these places? No. Did i bother find out about them? No. I was looking forward to the experience at the time when i really should go there myself. I've actually done a lot of that "alone" so far but i usually randomparty a lot to get to know new people, so i can't really say i was ever really alone.

The places that really made an impression to me and i refused to level right away before exploring, were Windurst and the nearby areas, Mhaura and Selbina, Jeuno ( i still have a habit to pay my respects to Altana at the temple in Upper Jeuno everytime i visit there ), Kazham. San d'Oria and Bastok i haven't even "explored" yet. They have been just places i've needed to go in order to complete quest/mission/ or different prices in AH. Sometimes i regret some of this. Not actually taking time with friends and going out on a journey to see what all is out there. I'm glad there still are places i haven't been to and CoP is knocking on the door, so i still have time to make up for this loss.
#144 Aug 11 2004 at 7:03 AM Rating: Decent
;)/cry



seriously great story :,)
#145 Aug 11 2004 at 8:05 AM Rating: Decent
wow i rarely reply to posts but this deserves it, LS always break up my LS has slowly been breaking up and becoming less intresting, i elive it is because leveling dominates this game

But great story :)
#146 Aug 11 2004 at 11:23 AM Rating: Decent
one last bump before this post is buried under the flames of uterly mean, awful threads
#147 Aug 11 2004 at 11:31 AM Rating: Decent
wow.... I feel the same way as the whm, maybe not as strongly but I love exploring things and doing quests. Jsut not as into the story as she was but....wow....
#148 Aug 11 2004 at 1:08 PM Rating: Decent
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sad....my ls is going through this phase somewhat.
use to i started alone
then 4 RL buddies came into the game
we first always partied, but now after getting to jeuno we dont anymore.
we're always off doing our own things, even tho we chat in the ls constantly, we dont travel or anything like we use to.

kinda relates to Real life i think.....like highschool
u first step into highschool knowing no one
u walk around a school that you never been in
then u see some familiar faces
u "party up" till 10th, 11th grade, then start making new friends
then ur a senior
yea of course u still talk to the friends u had during ur freshman year but after you get out of school.
some go separate ways, some go to college, some work, some leave town to find new life.
and slowly you end up losing touch.
yea, you stay in touch with most of your friends but in time the ones that you dont talk to everyday start to lose touch.

maybe its me but the story reminds me of soemthign i use to do with my friends in real life......road trips..........haven't been on one for a long time....
good times....good times...




the computer is your real life linkshell for keeping in touch with friends far away (theres other methods of keepin in touch but i use the computer ^^)




sorry for the rant
off work and i'm bored :P
and sorry for the mispelling and grammer and wat nots.
i tried to make it simple to read ^^

Edited, Wed Aug 11 14:54:20 2004 by sop
#149 Aug 11 2004 at 1:56 PM Rating: Decent
that story sure makes you think alot about things:)
#150 Aug 11 2004 at 3:03 PM Rating: Decent
What a magnificent way to bring out the softy is so many. This story will resonate deeply with many, for those that this is a game to be won, instead of world to be experienced or those that have grown weary of the tiresome grind.

Like others this story reminds me of my own. I've been playing since beta and I was honestly amazed by what I saw. To play and slowly grow and see new sites outside of San d'Oria. It is why when the Beta ended I remained a RDM to obtain Sneak/Invis. One after another I was amazed by the site I saw on my computer. In Ghelsba looking up from the small log footbridge and seeing the Orcish fort in the dusk sky. In Ronfaure the sun rise through the trees. LTP's chasm's, wind blowing leaves and a mysterious rainbow arching over the impressive Holla Crag. The first thing I did when I obtained sneak/invis is try to find my way to Rabao. I wandered for a long time, but it was so cool to see that giant mesa looming larger and larger as a neared it.

With the LS I experieced a similar turn of events. My first LS was one called Aratar started by girl that was a big fan of Tolkien. It's size fluctuated from time to time but it was a big LS for most of the time. Most everyone was friendly and joked around alot. But our leader left for CoH and even with the attempt to stick together the LS dispersed, high levels moving on to high level LS. I still keep my Aratar pearlsack (which others have kept and made into a dynamis pearl, meh) But think glady back on the days when I could get a warm welcome when I logged on and said "Good Evening, Aratar."
#151 Aug 11 2004 at 6:03 PM Rating: Good
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Hi guys. If you know japanese, then this movie isn't the same as the translation.

But I thought I would try to convey their true feelings. I took it upon myself to translate it. I put it on my school server so please don't hammer it... or if anyone else can host the file...

anyway here it is:

[link=www2.hawaii.edu/~dokihara/meetingagain-en.swf]www2.hawaii.edu/~dokihara/meetingagain-en.swf[/link]

Rate me if you like it :)
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