What's the easiest job for a bad player to hide in?Follow

Last night I was waiting in a group to find a healer when some higher levels of our LS agreed to drop by and heal us as we fought. Nice of them :)

Unfortunately, our warrior was terribly inexperienced, but with 4 other melees there (13-15) and two mid 20s healers standing by (RDM and WHM) we did just fine on our first target. But then our warrior (who was NOT the puller) voked a thread leech, and not one but two leeches come bounding our way. Our healers immediately jump on one of them leaving the 5 of us (3 thieves, monk, warrior) to take the other. Only 3 of us barely survived, and one of the deaths was the mid-level WHM who came only to help us out. Truly I had no idea one bad move by a single player could be so destructive.

It got me to thinking.. is there a job where a bad player could hide without ever really being noticed? I suppose anyone who pulls badly can kill everyone, but pulling aside, what's the most benign job a bad player could be?

MNK

for the most part, all you do is just hit attack and sit back and watch. whether or not you use your abilities doesn't really matter. no one will really notice. throw out a WS here and there.

it's not until later levels when you can spot a bad one.

I dont know about hiding, but as a Ranger I have a bad habbit of not noticing what Red Mages are doing. Im so busy paying attention to skill chains, hate, barrage timing, food, and my next pull I have no clue what they do, lol. I love having a Red Mage around to speed up exp. but I truthfully have no understanding for their job. I have a hard enough time doing my own part :)

Spyider
46 Ranger
30 Thief
23 Warrior

Yup... it sure is Monk, anyone can 'auto-attack' and sit there and pound on a mob. That's one of the main reason I start talking Skill Chains as soon as I get in a party. I fancy myself a decent Monk and I want to let the people around me know that I have a good understanding of how things are going to work right off the bat, plus I have a strong grasp on Skill Chains. Any Monk can deal damage, but in my opinion that's not enough, in the absence of a good SAM I honestly feel it's part of my job to make sure the Skill Chains we're doing are going smoothly and doing the max damage possible.

monk or theif

you would be suprised how well they can hide there smarts

i meant lvl 72 theif who was askin how to use job abilites and i just sat there wondering how he got lvl 72 and still be so idiotic. then i sat in awe as he died to a not worthwhile monster.

I think the only reason people are able to hide out as a thief is that no one really knows the type of damage a thief can do.

If you're a bad thief and you party with someone that plays a thief well... they'll probably tell you how awful you are.

I'd say BDR is pretty easy to hide lack of talent. I myself play one, and there's been a few times while levelling a different job that I've seen some *horrible* BRDs in parties. And yet time and again, people in the party always fall all over themselves saying how great the BRD is.

I disagree that a THF is an easy job for a bad player to hide behind. From the moment a THF gets Sneak Attack, you can monitor them to see if they're doing a decent amount of damage with Sneak Attack, whether or not they're even aware of the way Sneak Attack works, and, of course, whether or not they're even USING Sneak Attack. Trust me, I have seen all three of the above, and I guess you could say that they go in order from least bothersome to most bothersome. But, if I do spot any of the above happening, I usually alert the THF about it and tell him how it works, it usually helps, but there's always the occasional n00b who refuses to listen, and that kind of a person gets promptly booted from the PT.

But, from the beginning jobs, MNK is the easiest to hide in. In the dunes, there's usually not much for a MNK to do to completely ***** up everything. This is one of the reasons I absolutely hate leveling my sub, which is MNK. There's just not much to do besides sit back and let the auto-attack do the work for you. I enjoy playing a bigger role in the PT, not sitting back and tapping my WS macro every once in awhile.

Edited, Wed May 19 15:42:51 2004 by DodoBird

Thief is the thinking man's melee job. You actually have to plan things out, align precisely, have excellent timing, etc. A thief has so many ways to be awesome, and a bad thief is by far the easiest melee to spot in a group.

Monk for sure,

Well, there are different types of "bad", really.

Inept: doesn't know how his/her job works, doesn't know what other people are doing -- WARs that can't provoke, THFs that stand around and never use Trick Attack, RDMs that pick their nose until people tell them what to do.

Unskilled: has a handle on what he/she's supposed to do, but doesn't have the finesse down -- BLMs that overnuke, WHMs that overcure, DRKs that overdamage

Inattentive: probably knows what he/she's doing, but is otherwise indisposed -- tanks that provoke sporadically, THFs that only use Trick Attack once in a while, PLDs that can't time Shield Bash, any melee that takes a few rounds to actually engage and walk over to the mob

Repellant: probably knows what he/she's doing, but can't work with the party for other reasons -- anyone that can't take a criticism or advice, "primadonnas"