Tarutatu wrote:
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...I left the alliance, no warning, no questions asked.
Bottom line, if you don't communicate what you are doing and how you plan on doing it...
That is really hypocritical. The least you could have done was to tell them what was wrong with their setup, but instead you do the exact thing you're speaking against....
Based on what I posted, I can see how you might think I was being hypocritical. What you didn't know is that I had been trying to communicate to these people for over half an hour on the lunacy of what they were doing...I started communicating that to them after the first slaughter, but half an hour later they were still doing the same nonsense. The final straw for me came when one of the WHMs (and someone who had only joined us 10 minutes earlier) flat out said, "There's no way I'm sneaking all of you."
Closer to the topic of this thread, when an individual (or group of individuals) is attempting to do something, and the results consistantly (and predictably) fall short of their objective, obviously a change needs to be made. I once heard a fantastic tidbit of information:
"The working definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and over again and expecting different results." At some point, if you find yourself encountering the same difficulties (ie people yoinking mobs out of your train), prudence suggests that you find out what you can do DIFFERENTLY to alter the results. Understanding of course, that just because you work out an arrangement with someone who is willing to leave your train alone doesn't mean that's the end of it. There are a LOT of other players to deal with, so obviously solving the situation with one person is only a short-term solution.
Thus my recommendation to perhaps /sh in the area that you are putting together a train and let everyone in the area know what you are trying to accomplish. If someone still yoinks from your train, obviously they don't approve of your actions. You can butt heads for days on end, but that's not going to solve anything.
Long story short: communicate communicate communicate. After having exhausted every means at your disposal to do so, if people are still not cooperating, a decision has to be made on whether or not it's worth the aggrivation to continue doing what you are doing.
My experience, however, having seen the number of train farmers I have, is that not a single one announces their intentions to anyone. They just do what they are doing and then get all bent out of shape when someone (usually with the best of intentions) spoils their plans.
As a parting example: When I was doing my DRK quest, I did so as a lvl 30 WAR with capped great sword skill. Essentially this meant that any lvl 1 mob that came across my path was slaughtered, 9 times out of 10 in one hit. To avoid any confusion or hard feelings over running all over the lvl 1 mob areas just outside bastok slaughtering anything that came near me, I set up a macro so that every 5-10 minutes I could hit it and it would do a shout explaining what I was doing and why, and that I would be leaving as soon as I had enough kills, as well as an apology for any disruption I may have been causing. Not a single person complained to me, although a number of people DID thank me for letting them know why I was running around with a giant sword killing things they could get exp from.
The two most frustrating things about this game (for me, anyways) are people who give little or no thought to how their actions impact other players, and people who don't communicate.