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Thank you for ******* drg even more SEFollow

#1 Apr 21 2004 at 6:01 PM Rating: Sub-Default
I just tried 5times and voila my pentas gives 14-16tp back (mostly 5hits pentas)
Thank you alot for destroying drg even more SE ;;
#2 Apr 21 2004 at 6:02 PM Rating: Decent
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Nice irrelevant thread..You surely made your point.
#3 Apr 21 2004 at 6:06 PM Rating: Decent
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Think of it as payoff for being able to heal your wyvern now.
#4 Apr 21 2004 at 6:08 PM Rating: Good
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lol square gave fair warning bout that ahead of time, even my monk got hit by that with combo so it's not dragoon
#5 Apr 21 2004 at 6:09 PM Rating: Decent
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DRGs have their own forum to whine about this stuff.

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#6 Apr 21 2004 at 6:11 PM Rating: Good
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Like its been said before, its not only drgs who are effected by this but every melee with a multi-hit combo.
#7 Apr 21 2004 at 6:12 PM Rating: Decent
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And here come the ***** SE, this ***** SE that threads....

Oh no, now all of the really cool leet players can't spam pentathrust left and right...BFD. Now you will actually have to *gasp* function in a party. Instead of spamming that WS, things might actaully *gasp* be a challange.
#8 Apr 21 2004 at 6:15 PM Rating: Decent
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Or maybe even, *gasp*, take part in a skillchain instead of spamming your WS.

Z
#9 Apr 21 2004 at 6:15 PM Rating: Decent
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;_;

Edited, Wed Apr 21 19:21:13 2004 by Zandder
#10 Apr 21 2004 at 6:16 PM Rating: Decent
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dupe.

Edited, Wed Apr 21 19:21:02 2004 by Zandder
#11 Apr 21 2004 at 6:17 PM Rating: Default
Or *gasp* might even get invited less than before!
#12 Apr 21 2004 at 6:19 PM Rating: Good
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lol the irony of it all zander you spam that comment in 3 posts, karma baby!
#13 Apr 21 2004 at 6:19 PM Rating: Decent
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Deal with it, every melee class is feeling this in the exact same way. If you get invited less it's because you were using the Pentathrust exploit or whatever it was as a crutch, and have no idea how to really play your job. You can still do plenty in a PT.
#14 Apr 21 2004 at 6:23 PM Rating: Decent
One of drgs power is to be able to "spam" penta couse we can remove hate with high jump and super jumps, and now they are nearly not needed anymore. as long as there aint a thf in the party or the tank sucks then i guess i wont be using much of those anymore ; ;, so the tp thing affect drgs most of all jobs.
#15 Apr 21 2004 at 6:23 PM Rating: Decent
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Haldaorf wrote:
Deal with it, every melee class is feeling this in the exact same way. If you get invited less it's because you were using the Pentathrust exploit or whatever it was as a crutch, and have no idea how to really play your job. You can still do plenty in a PT.


/clap
/cheer

#16 Apr 21 2004 at 6:24 PM Rating: Decent
Or we could all quit the whining and see how things go? At least DRGs should almost always have their wyverns now.

And if you wanna feel sorry for someone, feel sorry for lvl 10-14 thieves. They have it worse than anyone...or sub41 red mages. Or the lower level monks who undeservingly have one of the worst reputations in the game.

I feel no pity for DRG, and honestly, I think this change is *balancing*. Just because you wont be overpowered now you think you have to go complain.

And that's it for now.
#17 Apr 21 2004 at 6:26 PM Rating: Decent
"Or we could all quit the whining and see how things go? At least DRGs should almost always have their wyverns now. "

Wyvern never dies with AF armor on... unless you are fighting crazy flies.
#18 Apr 21 2004 at 6:28 PM Rating: Default
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Waa Waa you got spoiled and now you want it back. 3 words
Deal--With--It
Its not only drgs and i am sick of everyone whining about this new thing im disapointed that i can only get 9-15tp max now with Dancing edge but do you see me whining about it HUH. Do you know that Thiefs relie on tp more then drg HUH? That 10-20 tp in 2 seconds can mean the difference between a lot of damage HUH? I probably am flaming or trolling whatever it is... But I am just so sick of seeing so many posts about SE making Drgs bad that i'm willing to let my karma go even lower cause of the people who disagree with me. rememebr the 3 special words?
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#19 Apr 21 2004 at 6:28 PM Rating: Decent
" Just because you wont be overpowered now you think you have to go complain. "
overpowered now? we were underpowered from before lol, get into high levels with drgs and see how extremly hard it is to get party, alot of JPS even think of drg as the weakest job.
#20 Apr 21 2004 at 6:31 PM Rating: Decent
this update BLOWS!!!!!!!!!!! i'd rather have 60%TP after penta than a wyvern^^ hope Gigima (my wyvern) doesn't see this post
#21 Apr 21 2004 at 6:31 PM Rating: Decent
AOE royally ***** the Wyvern, I'm glad I can heal it now, and guess what! I never had the Penta-Thrust ability. So lets see... my DRG just got a helluva lot better! Muahahah! And dismiss is actually a sane thought now lol.
#22 Apr 21 2004 at 6:31 PM Rating: Default
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Well mabey thats because it seems everyone who is playing one just likes to spam penta--which is not always a good idea, and it seems like all the do is whine!(not most Drgs but this one right here) I belive since you can't spam penta like mad now Jp might even invite you more so why don't you wait to see what happens before you flame SE and what they did.
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#23 Apr 21 2004 at 6:31 PM Rating: Decent
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Cry me a river. And yes, this is coming from a Dragoon.

Nine times out of ten, I am involved in a skillchain that does not involve Penta Thrust. If I have the TP for it and no one else is near ready for a skillchain, that is when I will use it.

I should also point out that there are three other weaponskills that are post-Penta, so it is not as though it is the end of the world for Dragoons. Vorpal Thrust is at Lvl. 55 -- which is no more than 6 levels after Penta Thrust -- for example.

If you only spammed Penta when in a party because that is all you think being a Dragoon is about, then you make me feel embarassed as a die-hard Dragoon player.

If you get invited to a party that expected you to spam Penta Thrust in the first place, well ... then think about if that party was actually a good or bad one, if they're not trying to make you work with skillchains.

My only complaint about Dragoons is the fact we have no Job Traits post-level 30 ... but that's another topic for another thread.
#24 Apr 21 2004 at 6:32 PM Rating: Default
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o.O O_O I'm 90% done with download YES^^ when i stop posting you know i got on... if i make a wierd thread(something like this SJDALGJJDGA hfasjlgha SE gdlhs CK haghl) you know i got an error
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#25 Apr 21 2004 at 6:34 PM Rating: Decent
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Yes, this hurt many melee classes, but this has nerfed the Dragoon to a much higher degree. Not because all we know how to do is penta thrust spam, and not because we dont do damage without penta or something, but penta thrust the way it was had very good synergy with the other abilities of a dragoon. The great thing about the old penta was that you could do penta thrust > jump > high jump> 1 more hit to 100%tp > penta thrust > super jump to rid hate.
THis synergy is gone now. And as someone pointed out, many melee classes had these multi-hit WSs that we can spam nonstop, except for the need to control hate, but only DRG has super jump to get rid of hate. Now that we cant do penta thrust nearly as often., the importance and usefullness of super jump has just dropped to almost nothing. In essence, this multi-hit WS adjustment made one of our best job abilities pracitcally useless.

*edited for typo

Edited, Wed Apr 21 19:36:46 2004 by StewartKR
#26 Apr 21 2004 at 6:34 PM Rating: Decent
im 33% done
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