Hello all!
Just here to rant about a little problem that I'm finding with some players. It seems that lately more and more ppl are getting their kicks outta training higher lvl mobs into newbie zones (Valkrum, Qufim, etc.) This might seem amusing to watch people scatter and run for their lives, or even die, but how would the trainer feel if he had to wait for a raise and lose exp. because some guy decided he was 'bored' and needed something to do?
I never had a problem with this happening until recently, and I'm sorry to say, but I believe it is the NA's that find this to be facinating. Now that we are starting to get into the higher levels, people are starting to feel 'powerful' and take advantage of the lower levels.
This brings to me my latest experience. To make a long story short, I was leveling in the Crawler's Nest, pulling Soldiers. We had an awesome party going, getting mad exp, when someone ran by with a couple exorays, rumble crawlers, beetles, hell, I thought he was Noah pulling 2 of each kind to his Ark! Anyway, needless to say we had to leave and wait for the aggro. mobs to return to their respective homes. I then found out this player and his friend had been doing this all day, and they are the same level as a majority of the people being trained on!!
I know I will NEVER party or invite these players to a party again, and if they do it tonight, I'm going to have to leave it in the capable hands of someone who can help! This was a waste of my time, and unlike these players and quite a few others, I have a very demanding profession, which in turn means I need to get quality out of the time I have to spend playing this game - every minute counts!
What do you think?
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Heya Bantam, good to see I wasn't the only one disgusted at that whole mess. ;)
Somewhat ironicly, just previous to you getting invited into the PT, our main tank was actually warped into the Jail zone mid-pull for punishment, because him and his friend had been purposely training large groups of bats to delk tower (Qufim) with the intent on killing people near the tower. He seemed to marvel in the fact that he killed around 20 people.
Whats even worse is the fact that a majority of the party at that time seems to think it was funny (the training part, not him getting warped to jail), and a few even mentioned that they'd 'have to do that sometime' for kicks. And in the end, the guy only got a slap on the wrist and a warning, and was gone from our PT for about 10 minutes. In fact, I think us as the group were the only ones really punished - since the GM warped him out RIGHT after we pulled an IT soldier crawler, so we were tankless the entire fight - and unable to pull until he came back.
He should have gotten a 24hr ban at the minimum - I can't believe he got off so easy. And I doubt the guy to trained all those mobs in the crawlers nest got any punishment either.
Somewhat ironicly, just previous to you getting invited into the PT, our main tank was actually warped into the Jail zone mid-pull for punishment, because him and his friend had been purposely training large groups of bats to delk tower (Qufim) with the intent on killing people near the tower. He seemed to marvel in the fact that he killed around 20 people.
Whats even worse is the fact that a majority of the party at that time seems to think it was funny (the training part, not him getting warped to jail), and a few even mentioned that they'd 'have to do that sometime' for kicks. And in the end, the guy only got a slap on the wrist and a warning, and was gone from our PT for about 10 minutes. In fact, I think us as the group were the only ones really punished - since the GM warped him out RIGHT after we pulled an IT soldier crawler, so we were tankless the entire fight - and unable to pull until he came back.
He should have gotten a 24hr ban at the minimum - I can't believe he got off so easy. And I doubt the guy to trained all those mobs in the crawlers nest got any punishment either.
I was helping someone hunt copper quadavs in Beadeaux the other day for their Bastok mission 7, and someone kept pulling zircons down off the hill and training them on us. I was getting pretty hot under the collar until they came over and apologized and explained that they had to do this for a quest they were on (thief AF1 maybe?). Not at all the same situation you guys were in, of course, but I mention it to point out that it's possible for it to happen, even more than once, without someone having bad intent.
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Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be any standard punishment, as a previous poster noted, unlike using cheat mechanisms like the auto-fish or SpeedHack. They ought to when the trainer has the intent of killing lower-level players. Now, mind you, training has its uses; for instance, if you wanted to farm beehive chips, you could train bees all over Sarutabaruta and then kill them one by one or nuke them with a -ga spell (obviously BLM have an advantage in the training department). However it is something you can call a GM about if it affects you because it detracts from your playing experience (I'm not gonna quote the EULA but it's in there), and if the trainer makes comments that appear in the logs, they'll probably get thrown in jail rather quickly. Hopefully the GMs will make it standard practice to temp ban an account for 24-72 hours for training.
Out of curiosity, who was the GM?
Out of curiosity, who was the GM?
farming with -ga spell is diff from training, tho i supppose the side effect still could be someone dying, esp if the mobs are hostile. (eg some bees dont aggro by themselves, others do)
usu the training with intent to kill someone happens near the zone..the trainer zones, the mobs are left right at the area where it normally would be pretty safe.
i do think it's related to the time of FFXI..as more people join, we start to see some of the bad things we saw in other games.
Hey Bahru!
Yeah, it's really starting to get bad, and I figured it wouldn't affect me, seeing how I have my main and sub above 30, but lo and behold, ignorance is bliss even in the mid levels...
I'm glad to hear that the GM's will do AT LEAST something to deter this kind of behavior... Too many people I've talked to say they won't give me the time of day - even though it is against the EULA, which I figure every rule is as important as the next. I know I'll be talking to a GM the moment I see 'you know who' ripping by me with a bus load of mobs in the back... :)
Yeah, it's really starting to get bad, and I figured it wouldn't affect me, seeing how I have my main and sub above 30, but lo and behold, ignorance is bliss even in the mid levels...
I'm glad to hear that the GM's will do AT LEAST something to deter this kind of behavior... Too many people I've talked to say they won't give me the time of day - even though it is against the EULA, which I figure every rule is as important as the next. I know I'll be talking to a GM the moment I see 'you know who' ripping by me with a bus load of mobs in the back... :)
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