I hate disrespect of help!Follow

I just recently started another character profile in windurst. She's a lvl 7 whm. Taru, by the name of Nebz (if you play on Cerberus). Last night, after reaching level 7, I went and purchased a few new spells. Barstonra, Barsleepra, Protect & Protectra. As I begin to case, I notice my enhancement magic skill is 0, so I decide to hang around windurst casting protect on anyone I could. After about an hour I finally reached the same level as my other magic skills so I stopped and went to check the auction. I then receive a tell with something to do with my protect and a 50,000 gil item. I didn't understand the guy so I tell back ???. I later then get a tell telling (not asking) me to stop casting protect or leave. First of all I had stopped casting but I was like whats the big deal? It's only protect...

He then replies that MY casting protect on him and his friends ruined their synthesizing efforts and cost his friend a 50,000 gil item. This pissed me off greatly. I'm being nice and friendly casting protect on all I see, and some people who probably have not the skill level (or right day of the week to synth with their crystal) are blaming me for their febbled attempts. WTH? Does protect affect them while synth? Does cure affect them while synth?

A few more examples of disrespect of help I've seen is someone will cast shell on a mage and the mage gets pissy and claims his cure is only half the strenght now. I highly doubt whoever casted knew it would do that... they were just trying to be helpfull instead. My last example comes from last night as well... I'm lvl 6, running around bored and find a lvl 3 mnk taking on a lil more than he can chew. So I stand there casting cure occasionally. After a few battles he asks "Can I help you with something?" So I left... wtf? Why the disrespect... I know from my experience as a mnk, thf and war that a whm is rarely around when you absolutely need one... I don't think it's wise to start making enemies of them...

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I'll have to have a friend cast a spell on me when cooking something tonight.. cause I don't really buy that.. I think I've been aggro'ed while synthing and it didn't cause me to fail, taking damage.. but I can't say that for certain.

As for shell.. I don't think it weakens your cures either.. that sounds like BS to me.

hmm... well, what crafts does casting interupt? At any rate if it were a 50,000 gil item, I can't speak for everyone, but I would synth that some where quite... I do 80% of my synthing in my mog house just so I KNOW I'm in a quiet place (as the guild's will tell you if you talk with them. "Practice in a quiet place")

At any rate, I can't see how protect would interupt anything... I was casting it on people running around last night, and unlike cure, they never stopped moving. With cure, it'd stop the character momentarilly, so I can understand how that might hurt synth... At any rate... if someone's at the level they can synth a 50,000 gil item... you would think they could be a lil kinder to n00b's... afterall, I doubt it cost him 50k to come up with the items he lost; MAYBE 5k...

Having a spell cast on you does in fact cause synthesis to fail. Happened to me just last night.

Woooo! Grief the crafters!

Seems like a terrible decision on Square's part.

Anyway, my suggestion for casting Prot/Cures to help people out is to do it while they're in combat or when they're obviously medding (i.e. sitting out in a mob-infested zone with half-hp). Much safer that way. Casting a Prot on someone in town isn't going to do them much good. They're in town. What're they gonna fight besides their LS members? ;) Plus, casting in town spams 50 people without really helping the one person you just prot'ed. Casting outdoors spams maybe 6 people while helping your target a great deal.

Live some, learn some!

WOW! I can't believe it interrupts the synth.. that's hardcore. Someone could really use that to mess people up who synth in public.

I synth at the place I sell the items at.. vendor, so I could easily get popped with a spell.. but I'm glad that it's inside a store.. and not out in the open.

heh, from now on I'm synthing in my mog house...

as for protect and cure, maybe if someone I see that pissed me off outside the walls of safety (left me for dead instead of helping, or was rude or an #$$) I'll cast cure on them if I see em synthin' anything... lmao. As for the majority of the Cerberus ffxi community, I've already planned on saving the protect and cure for outside of town. I was only doing it last night to get my enhancement magic skill from 0 to 9. Now that I have that, I don't need to protect anyone in a heavily populated area. I can do one or two at a time while they're healing or in battle. I also have a macro set for protectra then barstonra then barsleepra... but that didn't get me as much exp as casting protect on everyone.

Oh and for the record, I had at least 2 dozen bows, another dozen thank you's, several waves, couple cheers and I think one or two joy's from taru's for the protect effect cast on people outside the AH. Everyone knows it doesn't do a damn thing in town, but still acknowledges the courtesy, and that rocks!!! Just kinda sux cause I had someone whine and complain about my good deeds cause square went a lil too in depth with synthesizing. =\... Well, lesson learned, but that doesn't forgive the rude players that get pissy when you cast cure on them while their in battle with a lil more than they can chew... or the players that have something negative to say when you were just trying to do a good dead...

No there are people who do cast out of friendliness. Prob not you I guess^^

I cast it all the time on random people, my skill max from battle already anyways.

yes spirit, marrnos was talking specifically to me as for the first 9 of my enhancement levels, I was casting infront of the AH due to mass amounts of people. However, I could have just as easily used allirabeth's idea (which I did think of last night, but figured that would not prosper anyone else in the least bit). At least this way if anyone was heading out of the woods and into w. sarut. after they were done at the AH, they had protect. But I guess I can't have double purpose... must be for sole-gain only...

I would like to know though... when did this thread become a "Lets educate Krem on etiquette" rather than stories of people you've helped that was completely inconciderate. I mean I realized my possible mistake last night when it was pointed out... got it confirmed and have no intention on doing it any further... why's it still the topic at hand. =( you guys really wanna make me feel bad eh? BTW, thnx for the spell check notcoach... =p

Edited, Tue Jan 27 14:32:39 2004 by ElvaanKrem

The ferry from Mhaura to Selbina is a good place to work on raising magic levels. I usually get 3 levels of enhancement just casting on myself in the hold...good way to make use of that all-too-long ride.

Exactly.
Sure I buff/heal lonely adventurers too when I cross their way, but buffing in town makes clearly no sense. Go out in the hunting grounds when you wanna help peops AND level your skills.

Thats not in depth, thats bad coding, along with how cure and some other spells, freeze you if you're not moving and then try to move after the spells casts.

personally i think you would have gotten the /tell as soon as the person failed, not delayed afterwards.

probably what happened is you cast the spell...the person's buff for synth was removed or he failed later anyway if the buff wasn't removed, and blamed it on you. or if he dindt have the buff and he still failed, he blamed it on you.

if he was aware of that problem he would have not done his synth after he got that protect buff from you. imo he was looking for a scapegoat ot make up for his loss (the main reason being he did not immediately /tell and complain to you)

the other posts that people are saying here is that while they were synthing, they got a buff or monster attack. AT the time they were synthing.

on a side note, i also spend my mana on people fighting outside of town, not inside. those players will appreciate a cure or protect better.