Has anyone noticed that it is actually kinda tough to make a little more than enough money to get by in this game?
I am a casual player, don't play exorbitant amounts of time at all, however I find it really hard to make money. Apart from selling crystals found at the Auction House (and the price on those seems to have dropped significantly since the games launch) I have no idea about other forms of income? I have never had more than 10,000 Gil at one time and struggle to buy upgraded armor at times let alone any items I might want.
Anyone got any suggestions for making some money, not necessarily millions, which won't take days to do? Financial Planner Needed!! :)
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I charge 500gil per hour... I can start on tuesday :)
Making money just takes time... I mean even for level levels.. kill a few bees.. get beehive chips. I heard, still see if it's true, that a stack of 12 sell for abotu 4k on Carbuncle server.
Even kill Quadoffs for backplates and goblins for mail and masks... a good 700 gil each aswell
Making money just takes time... I mean even for level levels.. kill a few bees.. get beehive chips. I heard, still see if it's true, that a stack of 12 sell for abotu 4k on Carbuncle server.
Even kill Quadoffs for backplates and goblins for mail and masks... a good 700 gil each aswell
Quadav, not Quadoff :P
But Kid is right, you know. When trying to make money in this game just remember, a gil saved is a gil earned. Fill up your inv everytime you go out, even if it's with lame sheeps teeth or scrolls of protectra. Of course, things like that you're better off to sell at vendors rather then the AH.
You can check my levels out below, and I think my gil count is around 40,000. Of course, now I have expensive bills to pay (mog house expansion, gobbie bag, etc.)
It all balances out in the end. I expect to be back in the finacial dog house before long :P
But Kid is right, you know. When trying to make money in this game just remember, a gil saved is a gil earned. Fill up your inv everytime you go out, even if it's with lame sheeps teeth or scrolls of protectra. Of course, things like that you're better off to sell at vendors rather then the AH.
You can check my levels out below, and I think my gil count is around 40,000. Of course, now I have expensive bills to pay (mog house expansion, gobbie bag, etc.)
It all balances out in the end. I expect to be back in the finacial dog house before long :P
A good way to make some quick money, is to switch classes to a lower level class, level it up a bit, and focus on hunting things that drop fire crystals. Goblins are great for this, as well as the birds that fly around the newbie areas (Vultures in Bastok, Carrion Crows in Windurst). You should be able to build up a decent supply of Fire Crystals, which are always in demand. Sell them at the auction house for ~2k a stack, and you should make some decent gil.
Another good way is to farm Crawlers around Windurst. They drop Spools of Silk thread, which go for ~10k a stack on Garuda. Though, you'll have to compete with many more people with this Idea.
Sure, you're giving up play time, but it's to the better of your character. An hour or two doing this should give you a good base of Gil.
Another good way is to farm Crawlers around Windurst. They drop Spools of Silk thread, which go for ~10k a stack on Garuda. Though, you'll have to compete with many more people with this Idea.
Sure, you're giving up play time, but it's to the better of your character. An hour or two doing this should give you a good base of Gil.
I went from 90 to 20k yesterday. Still wondering where it went.
FFXI Money making overview. "We make Gil the old fashioned way. We mint it!"
FFXI has a great in game economy. The economy means you are always making trade offs and struggling to buy the next peice of gear. If you focus purely on leveling, your gear will fall behind really fast.
This leads to the need to make money in the game. Don't waste real money buying guides online! Everything you need to know is freely available, in English, on the web already.
First I will go over the basics. Then, I will talk about the specifics of a few methods of making gil.
***** The Basics *****
Nothing in this section will make you super rich, but it can help you earn a few extra gil when you need to get that next peice of gear.
Frame of Mind
You need to forget about leveling to make serious money. Getting massive XP and making gil are pretty much mutually exclusive. There is more to the game than getting to level 70. Your groups will love you if you have the best gear for your level and all the spells you need. They will love you even more if you have a steady supply of food to make you more effective. So lets get out there and concentrate as hard on making gil as you do on making XP.
The Action House (AH)
The most basic of the basics is learn to use the AH. Sell everything you can on the AH. Save anything that stacks till you have 12 and then sell the stack. This will save you AH slots. Remember that things can take a while to sell since you are selling to other players. If you want to sell fast, lower your price. Most things with a reasonable price will sell within 24 hours.
Bazaar
You can set up a bazaar on your character to sell things. If you run out of space in the action house, or have a stack of 11 you need to sell, this can be great. Remember that the price you set is per item. You may have to find a place to sit and wait for your stuff to sell. Don't do it to close to the AH, or your character will never even appear on anyones screen. I like to setup on a busy path in town that is on the way to the AH from the mog house.
Solo
If you want to make XP, join a party. If you want to make gil, solo. Also, if you are trying to make Gil, stick with the easiest mobs that drop anything you want. You can breeze through them and still get crystals. Some classes quickly get to a point where even easy monsters are time consuming. You need to just stick with the things you can kill quick and forget the crystals. Or, level up another job. One that can use the gear you already have is great, since you won't need to spend money equiping that job and use up mog house space.
Crystals
Always have signet cast on you. Crystals are a great source of income. Even when you are busy powering through the levels, crystals add up to a steady stream of gil. You can get even smarter about it, trying to target creatures that drop the crystals that sell the best. Skip bunnies, go for orcs, goblins, bats and birds.
Turning conquest points into cash
Think hard before you do this. You may want to save those bad boys up. There is some sweet equipment you can get. If you are desperate for cash though, just figure out what you can get with conquest points that fetches the most cash. Buy it with conquest points and sell it at the AH.
[edit: added quests section]
Quests
There are lots of easy quests that net sellable items or gil. Missions are good for this too. The repeatable quests generally aren't worth the effort, IMHO. If you have not done the Drain scroll quest, you can make 18K one time on it. If you play a BLM or plan on DRK you can SAVE 18K by doing the quest.
***** Specific Methods *****
So, you have done the basics, and now you are ready to ramp up your Gil making to the next level. Here are some techniques that are a little trickier, but pay bigger returns.
Playing the AH
Every city has it's own AH. So if I put something on sale in San d'Oria, you won't see it in Bastok. You can use this to your advantage. Either get to level 20 and get a Chocobo lisc. or pay the extra $1/mo. for a character in another city. Now, you need to identify things in the action house that have a price difference. You will see a lot more Justice Medals in San d'Oria than in Bastok. You might pick up a couple for 1000gil (if you are lucky, this is just an example) and sell them for 1500. There are two things to consider. Profit margin, and turnover. You can probably only sell a few Justice medals a day. Not a bad way to make a thousand gil or so, but be aware it can be slow at times. You will have to investigate what items you can buy low and sell high.
Playing the conquest
Whatever nation is ahead will have things it can buy in it's shops no one else can. For example, you can buy and sell about 3 copies of Cure II in Sandy when it's ahead and sell it in Bastok when it is last. You can make from 300-500 gil profit per item. If you try this on Titan, beware, I will flood the market with cheap ones to drive you out! =)
Farming for real
If you are serious about farming, the best low level thing to farm is crawler silk. Get your thief to 15 and log on during off peak hours. You can do this with other classes, but treasure hunter is a real boon. A 30RNG/15TFH is a farming machine.
Camping Notorious Monsters
Once again, having your TFH level to 15 will make a giant difference. Logging on during off peak hours will as well. Look up some NM in Allakhazam's beastiary and go hunt them. That RNG30/TFH15 or higher is a killer combo for this. Huntin NM is not an exact science and is pretty time consuming. But the payoffs can be big as well.
Crafting
Any of the craft skills can be big money makers. But they take a lot of time and money to develop. There are some good guides out there. Take the time to look one up and figure out a plan. Shoot for something players need a lot of and buy over and over. Mithkabobs are a little overdone, but all the juices for mages are pricy enough at the AH that most mages skip them. Try making a batch of juice, set your bazaar price at about a 10% profit and go party. Tell the mages in your group you have juice for sale, and you will probably be able to sell more than you care to carry. Better yet, carry the items to make the juice, and make some during the down time in the PT whenever you sell out.
Gardening
You need to visit your mog house about 2 times an earth day to do this really well. A "mule" might be a good plan. If you can log in once in the AM before work, and right before you log onto your main in the evening, gardening can be great. You need about 20K to start a real green house. Buy 10 pots, 10 bags of seeds, and 10 crystals. You can find places online to help you tip the odds in your favor that you grow good stuff. Pikko has a great gardening log on Allakhazam.
Fishing
Fishing is a little different than the other craft skills, and I have some personal experience with it. It can be a real money maker on some days, and useless others. To get your skill up, fish with the yew or bamboo rods and little worms in fresh water. The river in East Ron. or the pools in Windurst are good. Expect to break some rods as you skill up. More expensive rods break less, but I think you get fewer skill ups with them. Never fish on firesday. Rods will break like crazy. Fish bite well on lighteningday and poorly on earthday. I haven't gathered enough data on the other days. Once you get your skill to 5 or so, a carbon rod with insect paste will do pretty well on moat carp in San d'Oria. They sell for 300 ea. at the AH. And they sell fast!
***** Conclusion *****
This guide is just the ways I have personally found to make money. As with real life you can't get something for nothing. You have to put some effort, gil, or just plan hours into it to make money. Planning ahead a little and having a goal can really help you out.
Be well and be Wealthy
Edited, Sun Jan 25 18:17:59 2004 by SaintD
FFXI has a great in game economy. The economy means you are always making trade offs and struggling to buy the next peice of gear. If you focus purely on leveling, your gear will fall behind really fast.
This leads to the need to make money in the game. Don't waste real money buying guides online! Everything you need to know is freely available, in English, on the web already.
First I will go over the basics. Then, I will talk about the specifics of a few methods of making gil.
***** The Basics *****
Nothing in this section will make you super rich, but it can help you earn a few extra gil when you need to get that next peice of gear.
Frame of Mind
You need to forget about leveling to make serious money. Getting massive XP and making gil are pretty much mutually exclusive. There is more to the game than getting to level 70. Your groups will love you if you have the best gear for your level and all the spells you need. They will love you even more if you have a steady supply of food to make you more effective. So lets get out there and concentrate as hard on making gil as you do on making XP.
The Action House (AH)
The most basic of the basics is learn to use the AH. Sell everything you can on the AH. Save anything that stacks till you have 12 and then sell the stack. This will save you AH slots. Remember that things can take a while to sell since you are selling to other players. If you want to sell fast, lower your price. Most things with a reasonable price will sell within 24 hours.
Bazaar
You can set up a bazaar on your character to sell things. If you run out of space in the action house, or have a stack of 11 you need to sell, this can be great. Remember that the price you set is per item. You may have to find a place to sit and wait for your stuff to sell. Don't do it to close to the AH, or your character will never even appear on anyones screen. I like to setup on a busy path in town that is on the way to the AH from the mog house.
Solo
If you want to make XP, join a party. If you want to make gil, solo. Also, if you are trying to make Gil, stick with the easiest mobs that drop anything you want. You can breeze through them and still get crystals. Some classes quickly get to a point where even easy monsters are time consuming. You need to just stick with the things you can kill quick and forget the crystals. Or, level up another job. One that can use the gear you already have is great, since you won't need to spend money equiping that job and use up mog house space.
Crystals
Always have signet cast on you. Crystals are a great source of income. Even when you are busy powering through the levels, crystals add up to a steady stream of gil. You can get even smarter about it, trying to target creatures that drop the crystals that sell the best. Skip bunnies, go for orcs, goblins, bats and birds.
Turning conquest points into cash
Think hard before you do this. You may want to save those bad boys up. There is some sweet equipment you can get. If you are desperate for cash though, just figure out what you can get with conquest points that fetches the most cash. Buy it with conquest points and sell it at the AH.
[edit: added quests section]
Quests
There are lots of easy quests that net sellable items or gil. Missions are good for this too. The repeatable quests generally aren't worth the effort, IMHO. If you have not done the Drain scroll quest, you can make 18K one time on it. If you play a BLM or plan on DRK you can SAVE 18K by doing the quest.
***** Specific Methods *****
So, you have done the basics, and now you are ready to ramp up your Gil making to the next level. Here are some techniques that are a little trickier, but pay bigger returns.
Playing the AH
Every city has it's own AH. So if I put something on sale in San d'Oria, you won't see it in Bastok. You can use this to your advantage. Either get to level 20 and get a Chocobo lisc. or pay the extra $1/mo. for a character in another city. Now, you need to identify things in the action house that have a price difference. You will see a lot more Justice Medals in San d'Oria than in Bastok. You might pick up a couple for 1000gil (if you are lucky, this is just an example) and sell them for 1500. There are two things to consider. Profit margin, and turnover. You can probably only sell a few Justice medals a day. Not a bad way to make a thousand gil or so, but be aware it can be slow at times. You will have to investigate what items you can buy low and sell high.
Playing the conquest
Whatever nation is ahead will have things it can buy in it's shops no one else can. For example, you can buy and sell about 3 copies of Cure II in Sandy when it's ahead and sell it in Bastok when it is last. You can make from 300-500 gil profit per item. If you try this on Titan, beware, I will flood the market with cheap ones to drive you out! =)
Farming for real
If you are serious about farming, the best low level thing to farm is crawler silk. Get your thief to 15 and log on during off peak hours. You can do this with other classes, but treasure hunter is a real boon. A 30RNG/15TFH is a farming machine.
Camping Notorious Monsters
Once again, having your TFH level to 15 will make a giant difference. Logging on during off peak hours will as well. Look up some NM in Allakhazam's beastiary and go hunt them. That RNG30/TFH15 or higher is a killer combo for this. Huntin NM is not an exact science and is pretty time consuming. But the payoffs can be big as well.
Crafting
Any of the craft skills can be big money makers. But they take a lot of time and money to develop. There are some good guides out there. Take the time to look one up and figure out a plan. Shoot for something players need a lot of and buy over and over. Mithkabobs are a little overdone, but all the juices for mages are pricy enough at the AH that most mages skip them. Try making a batch of juice, set your bazaar price at about a 10% profit and go party. Tell the mages in your group you have juice for sale, and you will probably be able to sell more than you care to carry. Better yet, carry the items to make the juice, and make some during the down time in the PT whenever you sell out.
Gardening
You need to visit your mog house about 2 times an earth day to do this really well. A "mule" might be a good plan. If you can log in once in the AM before work, and right before you log onto your main in the evening, gardening can be great. You need about 20K to start a real green house. Buy 10 pots, 10 bags of seeds, and 10 crystals. You can find places online to help you tip the odds in your favor that you grow good stuff. Pikko has a great gardening log on Allakhazam.
Fishing
Fishing is a little different than the other craft skills, and I have some personal experience with it. It can be a real money maker on some days, and useless others. To get your skill up, fish with the yew or bamboo rods and little worms in fresh water. The river in East Ron. or the pools in Windurst are good. Expect to break some rods as you skill up. More expensive rods break less, but I think you get fewer skill ups with them. Never fish on firesday. Rods will break like crazy. Fish bite well on lighteningday and poorly on earthday. I haven't gathered enough data on the other days. Once you get your skill to 5 or so, a carbon rod with insect paste will do pretty well on moat carp in San d'Oria. They sell for 300 ea. at the AH. And they sell fast!
***** Conclusion *****
This guide is just the ways I have personally found to make money. As with real life you can't get something for nothing. You have to put some effort, gil, or just plan hours into it to make money. Planning ahead a little and having a goal can really help you out.
Be well and be Wealthy
Edited, Sun Jan 25 18:17:59 2004 by SaintD
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