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#1 Jan 24 2004 at 5:58 PM Rating: Excellent
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I was out in Valkurm Dunes the other day doing the selbina clay quest for the mayor and this guy starts sending me tells asking me to help him hunt for a skull. Now, normally I try to help lowbies (I've powerlevelled a number of people in the dunes since I got refresh ... part of the reason I've stalled on 42 a while), but since I was on a time crunch I told him I couldn't. The guy started sending me extremely rude "F.U." type messages repeatedly afterwards and continued spamming me with (declined) party invites so I went to the location he told me he was at earlier and when I show up he (a 22 RDM) was standing there yelling at a lvl 30 WAR in GENERAL CHAT about how he shouldn't have to heal him after a fight because the warrior could rest and to hurry up and get him a skull. I was ticked before, but now I was really mad. I stood there waving at him repeatedly while declining his invite spams until a ghoul popped. I walked over, killed it, and got a magicked skull. I proudly announced that in public chat, /em gives <t> the finger, discarded it, and continued on my way to Selbina. The warrior followed close behind, tired of dealing with the rude noob. After a few more rude tells I finally blacklisted the creep.

I understand that people want help sometimes, but why in the hell do they feel justified in spamming people repeatedly with party invites after they have been repeatedly declined all the while cursing them out with tells? I think that idiot got what he deserved, but a few people in my linkshell think I was just mean by doing what I did. What do you guys think?
#2 Jan 24 2004 at 6:01 PM Rating: Good
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/em cheer
#3 Jan 24 2004 at 6:01 PM Rating: Good
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I pray this person never gets a magicked skull,
there are enough stupid RDMs running around to
ruin the class.
#4 Jan 24 2004 at 6:02 PM Rating: Good
Mean? I think the little ******* got what he deserved. I've been rude on occassions, but never when asking for help.

I vote for "JUSTIFIED"
#5 Jan 24 2004 at 6:03 PM Rating: Good
These people are a very small but somewhat vocal element of any MMORPG.

Luckily there is an easy solution to this /blist "name".

There you go, no more spam, nothing. The more people that /blist an annoyance player the more of a hard time ofthing he will have. Just ignoring them or flipping them off doesnt work. Say in 5 months you have forgotten that person and he wants to group with and you let him in, /blist is permanent.
#6 Jan 25 2004 at 12:07 AM Rating: Good
I am normally a decent person, but in this case, you were justified IMHO. There is no need to be rude, he got his reward. I can only hope he learned from it.
#7 Jan 25 2004 at 12:13 AM Rating: Decent
Definately justified. I try to give a little leaveway to fellow RMs, yet that guy definately deserved what he got. And he definately doesn't deserve to get a skull. ::cheers for airspirit::
#8 Jan 25 2004 at 5:59 AM Rating: Decent
i would have done worse, i don't like arguements or conflicts but if someone is unlucky enough to do that to me, it woulda been worse. Justified.
#9 Jan 25 2004 at 6:16 AM Rating: Decent
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I believe my revenge would have ran to a /shout to let people know I had an extra Magicked Skull to give away, and stood right next to him while I hashed out who got it in public chat. But I suppose that's just me.
#10 Jan 25 2004 at 6:20 AM Rating: Decent
I agree with almost everyone else, your actions were justified. I would have probably done worse (if possible) in that situation.

As a BLM I would probably have brought over about a half dozen gobs, then Mana Front + Warped out... leaving them all on him. (Sadly, I can't do that really at level 34, but I can bring a 1-2 over without too much worry.)
#11 Jan 25 2004 at 6:26 AM Rating: Decent
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*puts hand up* Justified for sure.

I hope he vanishes and I never have to play with him. Ever.
#12 Jan 25 2004 at 3:59 PM Rating: Decent
Justifie of course, if it were up to me, i would just party with him and pull a couple of ghoul for a fight and logout :)
#13 Jan 26 2004 at 5:04 PM Rating: Decent
I don't think it's evil, but not entirely justified either.

The guy is being a total dork. The invites and shouts are certainly over the top, and really not necessary. I would be very annoyed and somewhat angry as well.

However, I don't feel there is any reason to pull a ghoul and throw away the very skull this guy is trying to get. That's just mean. At your level, there is no reason to do it, not even for the XP. It's just to deny this guy another opportunity to get his skull. It's hard to do, but try to set a better example. Point the ghoul out to the guy, tell him to kill it himself, and walk away.

Whenever I run into someone who is acting like a jerk, I will ask them politely to stop. If they do not, I will simply tell them that I am blacklisting them, then add them to my blacklist and ingore them forever.

Getting revenge, even if you feel it is justified, only causes these problems to continue. Now you have a dork who hates you, and is more likely to try to bother you again in the future. Better to play nice, or just ignore them. You never know who you might need to ask for help some day, and getting revenge might not make a good impression with other people in the area.

I also find that /anon does wonders for cutting out the spam. Except in a few cases where people seem to think /anon = High level white mage, and they'll ask for a raise anyway.
#14 Jan 26 2004 at 5:25 PM Rating: Decent
I vote "Justified" as well. (Get lost timberlake!) ...so far I've been lucky; helped those in lower lvl's, been helped by higher lvl's. "Thank you"s all the way around. Smiley: grin
I'm sure, if that guys keeps it up, the next tim you run into him (like in Jueno), he'll be stuck w/ his party flag up for long while. Probably even Smiley: banghead (If he even finds someone to escort him there!)
#15 Jan 26 2004 at 5:39 PM Rating: Decent
lol... I prolly would tried killing the nubblette. I highly beleve in karma and respect to your higher level players. So ya, Good Job. :D
#16 Jan 26 2004 at 9:57 PM Rating: Decent
well there are 2 ways to see this situation, altho your gesture may be justified in this case towards that specific individual, you took away a skull that you didn't need and could've been dropped to someone that did need it (other than that guy of course) Evil, justified??? depends... no true answers here
#17 Jan 26 2004 at 10:42 PM Rating: Decent
I just want to thank you for putting that buttmonkey in their place. Why oh why do people make us RDms look bad? Can't they be something else? Grrrrr. Justified!
#18 Jan 27 2004 at 10:32 AM Rating: Decent
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im more concerned about your LS members whom you'll probably meet often and they thought that you were not justified to do this. if they think that way, you might consider another LS.

totally justified imo.
#19 Jan 27 2004 at 11:24 AM Rating: Decent
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IMO calling a GM to deal with the harassment would have been better than getting the item and throwing it away in front of him.
#20 Jan 27 2004 at 11:44 AM Rating: Decent
/clap


I got sworn at by a noob last night because I grabbed the Siren's Tear before him. (He had a dagger equipped)

I blisted him and he ran by as I traded the Tear to Wahid. I waved as he ran by.


Grats for giving what they deserved!
#21 Jan 27 2004 at 11:51 AM Rating: Decent
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Completely justified.

I would also like to point out to some of the other posters on this thread that the Magicked Skull cannot be traded to other players or sold to a vendor. Some EX items are sellable to vendors (such as Mandra Buds), but for the most part that EX tag means you have to destroy it or use it to get rid of it (such as the Aspir Knife).
#22 Jan 27 2004 at 12:04 PM Rating: Decent
I think this game should have Karma... soo many times (even as a monk) I've pulled agro's off low level's being chased. Time and time again the favor has been returned. However, there's been times when people would tell me and say they hoped I died or would just sit back and watch... this is the worst story I've heard yet... I could rant more, but I wouldn't get any work done today... so I'll leave it at that... "the worst story I've heard yet"... that rdm is an #$$.
#23 Jan 27 2004 at 12:05 PM Rating: Decent
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mesajar wrote:
Completely justified.

I would also like to point out to some of the other posters on this thread that the Magicked Skull cannot be traded to other players or sold to a vendor. Some EX items are sellable to vendors (such as Mandra Buds), but for the most part that EX tag means you have to destroy it or use it to get rid of it (such as the Aspir Knife).


You can add the person to your group briefly and pass on the treasure pool.
#24 Jan 27 2004 at 12:13 PM Rating: Decent
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You can add the person to your group briefly and pass on the treasure pool.


If you have room in your inventory, the item that drops automatically goes there. And also from my experience, if an EX item drops, it cannot be looted by someone who was not in the party at the time of the drop. Hunting Kazham keys in Giddeus, we had an extra one drop and invited someone to loot it. They couldn't lot on the item, assumingly because they were not in the party at the time of the drop. So everyone else passed and we waited for the item to drop out of the pool to see if it would go to him, and it was lost.
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