In the next expantion, i want a Blue MageFollow

Those are the coolest characters. You learn the enemies skills and dont have to worry about leveling and buying spells because you learn them from your enemy. Its one class thats in almost all Final fantasies and would make for a very unique character.

Maybe a message that says : Stdying the enemy, you can now learn "mobattack". Then perhaps go to specific npc wich can help you to master that skill for a certain price?

Blue Mage would be realy nice ^_^.
I'm thinking of it working like in FF7 with the materias.
So you should be able to learn the abilities of mobs by fighting them and getting hit by their special attacks. Maybe the system of obtaining them could be similar to the combat skills.
For example there is a chance that getting hit by a Goblin Rush increases your lvl for Goblin Rush by 0.1 points. When reaching 1 you'll learn the ability. Or it's like the weapon skill system where you get the special attacks when reaching a certain lvl.
For example getting hit by goblin special attacks increases your skill lvl in goblin attacks and once you reach lvl10 you are able to make a goblin rush.

Pleas tell me what you think about this system.

Yes that's a good idea. So depending on the power of the special the mage is able to use it only every 15, 30 or 60 seconds or so.
They could also create items you have to equip to be able to learn and activate the specials of different groups of mobs. (Dragons, Fish, Birds,...)

OMG i have to stop talking about this i'm getting too excited ^_^.

I would like to have every character could able to equip one Avatar and release them for special attack with 200% TP..

Well, Im my time of playing the FF series I have never enjoyed playing characters that could learn these skills. That my opinion though, If you have fun with it great. The only thing that i have to say about this is that every character out there today has to spend GIL on various items depending on race/job. I just paid 18,000 Gil for drain 12 lvl BLM spell. If a Blue Mage has the abilities to learn new skill from enemy's. What would they spend there gil on to make the game balanced. As someone else stated

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And we all know that Square Soft isnt gonna make that possible =P they have a way of making everything "even".

Would it be Armor, No, mages don't tend to use armor for it interrupts there magical abilities. What would a Blue Mage use for Spells, White/red/black. Then what's the point in having any of the other magic inclined classes.

I think the best way to have a character like this is to use Kimari out of FFX as a JOB model. He is a fighter type, that has a few funky skill options. As far as Blue mage I dont think it will work.

But that's my 2 Gil & my humble opinion, Please prove me wrong, it might be exciting to see a character like this in the game.

interesting ideas guys lets keep this thread alive

I would guesse that they would use BLU as the abreviation. Yes, I know all the mages have M at the end, but I think BLU is more classy than BUM :) Also, if you notice, the current mage abreviations all sound similar to the actual name... Say BLM out loud.. You get Bl-mm, or basically all the hard consanant sounds of Black Mage. Same for RDM (Red-mm) and WHM (W-mm). All hard sounds from the original meaning.

Sound out BUM... You get Bum or Boom, which sounds nothing like Blue Mage. With BLU you immediatly get the sound Blue, as in Blue Mage.

As far as how the Job itself would work, I have no idea.

--Waylan

ok so here is everything about adding a blue mage, imo

1. what abilities can be learned?
picked from a list of monster special attacks (there are enough already in the game but hi lvl ones can be included on new mobs in xpn2)

2. how can you learn the ability?
traditionally it is learned after experiencing the attack and surviving. in ffxi i think a lvl requirement is also a must before the skill will be learned for balance.

i think learning all spells for free would be a cop-out and everyone would try bluemage... why not get an item like an 'essense orb' to use on mob then it captures the mobs special attack and you can go to town and have special pc mystic extract the magic of the attack from the orb (for a game balancing fee).

3. how do i use the ability?
in ff6 the old dude bluemage used mp, i think it should be the same here. if there was no mp then the blue mage wouldn't be a mage at all lacking the need to rest in between battles like blm whm rdm smn now.

4. what are the general class characteristics?
should have similar attk/def to a rdm
mp pool between rdm and whm sized


overall i have to say that the whole class hinges on how cool/fun the different abilites are... if there are alot of offensive abilities it would play like blm, if there are alot of defensive/cure then it would be like whm, if there were status ... rdm. with careful planning the blue mage could have a mix of all 3 that offers a new, fresh mage class.

I think the best format for blue mage would be like the one in the NA version of FF3 where the little kid ( forget his name ) would turn into the monster of his choice out of his ******* of monster he had learned. And could do the ws that creature could at the strength that creature could by using TP that he would have to build up like everyone else. It would be cool I think to have someone in the party who could switch their image heh.

The method the kid learned his abilities wouldn't work quite right in this game mind you. ( jumping into the land for a few fights and learning every monster the party has fought until he returns ). But you could make it like this:

You require to kill x of these creatures solo or x times the amount of people in party helping you kill them in order to turn into said monster.

Lets say x is 50 and you and your party of 6 go to a place with mhuara. The party would have to kill 50x6 Mhuara with the blue mage in the group in order for the blue mage to gain the ability to turn into a mhuara.

The Advantages that also could be given to blue mages while in this form would be: Being able to travel around monsters in the same family as the monster he is in the form of without being attacked regardless of whether they aggro or not, but the downside being any monster that on the prey predator list that is the predator of this creature would attack regardless of wheter it is an aggro monster.

And blue mages would be required to be in their true form in order to enter towns. ( last thing you need is another 50 character templates in a city like jueno to eat of memory ).

Now A problem that i see in my formula is that a blue mage could simply get into a group of lvl 70's to help them get the forms of strong monsters for his/her level so they can pull of massive ungodly damage, and as unlikely as it is that 5 lvl 70's will take a lvl 20 or what not to fight 300 of something, it may still happen. So you implement the rule that the party makeup must be within 5 lvls in order for it to even work.

I don't know if anyone has mentioned this yet, perhaps I may have overlooked it but one of the abilities the Blue Mage could develop with leveling could be an ability they had in Final Fantasy V, Check. Actually being able to see the targets HP/MP, weaknesses, strengths, and what it can absorb. Just a thought.

Believe it was called "Scan"

I wasn't mentioning straygo from ff3, though ff3 did have 3 diff versions of the blue mage all in that one game. Straygo, his grandaughter, and the kid from the plains.(savage kid)




Personally what I suggested as how to implement a blue mage into FXII would make not make an easy class to play. If you looked at what i put it woudl require said blue mage to kill 300 of a certain mob when grouped with people withing 5 lvls of himself. Sure he/she could go with my other theory and kill said mob only 50 times solo, but the only things that person will learn will be monsters 5 lvls below him/her.

I highly doubt lefein bothered reading all or any of these posts. People are only trying to express their want for a bluemage if a new class is added to the games. Personally the way i would like to see a blue mage would add niether another melee or mage, but someone who coule effectively be either one depending on what form they choose. It would be much like bst..your party is going to fight crawlers..so you turn into a scorpion ( the natural predator of the crawlers ). If you're not going to add to a constructive thought process, but feel the need to ***** about something..go to one of them online chat rooms for teenagers..lots of foul language and non sense there.