First I want to start with an apology. (This is never a good thing) I am really not trying to start an argument or even saying the game FFXI is bad. I've enjoyed it quite a lot as a matter of fact. Still we come to the meat of my post.
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After tonight I will have my sixth job to level 20 and when that happens I might very well stop playing the game. The problem is I don't want to party in Quifim. I've tried it, as a WHM, as a BLM, and once as a MNK, and I hated every second of it. From creeping to Juneo (not that I can't ride the bird, sometimes I walk just cause it takes longer), to sitting around hearing people argue, to actually going into the pace and playing tag with the mobs. Meanwhile on my way to level 20 with 6 jobs, I've seen hundreds of places I'd rather be, from valkum which is more fun in a level 20-22 party, to Junger forest where as a level 21 WHM with 3 other people we killed Tigers and gobs, with little trouble, I've even spent some time in the marshlands. All these place seem better, to me then Qufim, yet it seems that once I hit that magical 20-22 number it's the only place anyone will go.
I've had my linkshell tell me to tough it out, "just get to 25 and we can go get the keys, Kahzam is cool trust us." That's great but it doesn't stop the dread I feel every time I think about hopping on a bird and running to Juneo, just so I can argue/grind for 4 days getting 3 levels in Quifem. (With the knowledge that I'll have to do it again with my Advanced job or sub jobs)
Well that's really all I can say. I do like the game, but this one obstical seems to be insermountable to me. Once again to people who see this as a flame or complaint about the game I'm sorry. It's mostly a flaw in myself.
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I wouldn't consider this a Flaw in the game.. More like Human Nature. Me myself Leveled in Qufim... but I think surely there has to be some other places to level to reach 25?
I think allakhazam has a leveling chart somewhere...
If you really wanan go to qufim.. Get yourself a party outside.. put all your chat filters on and go enjoy yourself :P
I think allakhazam has a leveling chart somewhere...
If you really wanan go to qufim.. Get yourself a party outside.. put all your chat filters on and go enjoy yourself :P
You still didn't really explain what is so special about quifim and Jeuno that are just so horrible to the point that you can't lvl there. Everything you've said, happens everywhere. Maybe it is some personal experiences that we need to hear about.
your bm at least can solo worms in kolorroko tunnel to avoid qufim or if you can find a party kill other stuff in there instead of qufim
I am not a big fan of Valkurm or Qufim. I wish people would spread out a little. As a WHM, I have some ability control where my party goes. I been working my freinds list and forming parties in other places.
If you go to Jueno and look for ppl your level with thier flag up, you can usually talk them into going anyplace. They can all jump a choco and be in a lot of good places fast.
I feel your pain. I guess we just need to work a little harder.
If you can rig it, getting on during non-peak hours makes Qufim a lot easier to deal with. Call in sick?
If you go to Jueno and look for ppl your level with thier flag up, you can usually talk them into going anyplace. They can all jump a choco and be in a lot of good places fast.
I feel your pain. I guess we just need to work a little harder.
If you can rig it, getting on during non-peak hours makes Qufim a lot easier to deal with. Call in sick?
Quifam is a real tough place for me as made the long trek from valkrum at lvl 20. The place is rough no doubt about it, you can die there so easy. But it is true that it seems to be the only place to go from 22-30 and it is always packed with parties there farming all the monsters. But what i like is how its not hard to get in a party. i really dont' care about "connecting" well with people on a personal lvl. my goal is to get a competant party and power lvl cause all i care about is becoming a SAM.
Level 53 WHM. My BLM is 19... Wonder why?
Hated it the first time, not interested in a second time..
Hated it the first time, not interested in a second time..
Try searching for other areas. I have done some search and here are some possible places you could still go.
Buburimu Peninsula : High level gobs Gambler/Leecher/Mugger are 22-25. Enough toughs and VT even IT from 20.
Jugner Forest : High level orcs near Davoi. Sejeant/Fighter/Cursemaker and High level gobs Mugger/Gambler/Leecher are all 22-25 mobs.
Beadeaux : Just at the entrance there should be land pugils 20-23 and some easy Quadavs wandering around.
These are but a simple fraction of places you can go at 20. People stick in Qufim because its near jeuno. They never bothered moving around. I did some searchs and these are all places I found. Personaly, I have leveled from 20-25 with my rdm partnering in Jugnar forest + Yughott Grotto. Leveled my paladin 20-22 in qufim but then moved to Jugnar again till 25 then headed myself to kazham (which is crowded now aswell).
Do some research before. Plan where you want to hunt. All these places are too far? What if you died? Well, the plan is to prevent death. Don't bother looking for raise in most of these places since its usually empty. On your way back you can simply purchase the warp scrolls. its only 750 anyway.
Buburimu Peninsula : High level gobs Gambler/Leecher/Mugger are 22-25. Enough toughs and VT even IT from 20.
Jugner Forest : High level orcs near Davoi. Sejeant/Fighter/Cursemaker and High level gobs Mugger/Gambler/Leecher are all 22-25 mobs.
Beadeaux : Just at the entrance there should be land pugils 20-23 and some easy Quadavs wandering around.
These are but a simple fraction of places you can go at 20. People stick in Qufim because its near jeuno. They never bothered moving around. I did some searchs and these are all places I found. Personaly, I have leveled from 20-25 with my rdm partnering in Jugnar forest + Yughott Grotto. Leveled my paladin 20-22 in qufim but then moved to Jugnar again till 25 then headed myself to kazham (which is crowded now aswell).
Do some research before. Plan where you want to hunt. All these places are too far? What if you died? Well, the plan is to prevent death. Don't bother looking for raise in most of these places since its usually empty. On your way back you can simply purchase the warp scrolls. its only 750 anyway.
Prob is that most peeps yell "goto qufim for lvl20-25!!" just like most people yell "goto Kazham for 25-**!".. and that most people listen and got there making it crowded as hell with the usual ******** as result making it a less fun place to hang around.
Main reason why I sometimes wander off to other places and do some solo'ing or if I'm lucky, team up with some other players wandering around there...
Main reason why I sometimes wander off to other places and do some solo'ing or if I'm lucky, team up with some other players wandering around there...
I dont like Quifim, but I do it because I know I must.
I'm half way through my term there, and I know I must press on in order to recieve advanced jobs.
This is the stuff that seperates the men from the boys =P
I'm half way through my term there, and I know I must press on in order to recieve advanced jobs.
This is the stuff that seperates the men from the boys =P
There are plenty of other places to go level besides Qufim. When my party went there, it was overly crowded and a bunch of idiots kept pulling Wights to zoning areas, effectively killing everyone trying to find a group. So we went exploring and found out Batallia Downs offers great exp and challenges for lvs 23+. We found a very cool and safe place to kill things there and I jumped from 23-27 no problem.
My suggestion: Gather a well balanced group who are willing to go exploring for a little while to find exp somewhere else. Mostly likely, they'll probably be people like you who don't want to experience Qufim a second time. Shiia gave some very good examples of places to go. You won't find many people there so it's essential to create your party before you go.
Don't let it get you down. It might take a little bit longer to do, but I think exploring and knowing other areas besides the popular ones makes you well rounded and definitely more knowledgable. Not just another mindless player. :)
My suggestion: Gather a well balanced group who are willing to go exploring for a little while to find exp somewhere else. Mostly likely, they'll probably be people like you who don't want to experience Qufim a second time. Shiia gave some very good examples of places to go. You won't find many people there so it's essential to create your party before you go.
Don't let it get you down. It might take a little bit longer to do, but I think exploring and knowing other areas besides the popular ones makes you well rounded and definitely more knowledgable. Not just another mindless player. :)
From Bubu go to Shakrami Maze, yes there is a second entrance and you find there Crawlers and Bats.
Get some friends and level there
Get some friends and level there
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funny, the dread an horror with which you regard qufim is how i feel about valkrum... good god, i hate that place more than anything...
as for your problem, can't help you there. no amount of convincing can/will if your LS mates can't do it. and if you've been frequenting these boards enough, then we probably can't convince you either. just something you gotta decide for yourself. and if you do decide to quit there, well, it was fun while it lasted... heheh
as for your problem, can't help you there. no amount of convincing can/will if your LS mates can't do it. and if you've been frequenting these boards enough, then we probably can't convince you either. just something you gotta decide for yourself. and if you do decide to quit there, well, it was fun while it lasted... heheh
The fact is, most people go to Qufim from 20-25 and Kazham from 25-33ish because that's where everyone say the best hunting area is. Of course...because these are the "best" hunting areas, they're completely overcrowded. But you also have a better chance of finding people to party with, because everyone assumes that's where they're supposed to go.
Let me just say if you hate Qufim...Kazham's not gonna be any better. In fact, it'll probably be worse in the beginning, until all the newcomers to the island learn that Goblin Smithys aggro a lot, and a train of 5 of them to the zone is not uncommon at all.
No all leveling areas are going to be "fun." I wanted to leave the first time I set foot on Kazham, but after a while you find yourself in a decent party and you get the hang of things.
Let me just say if you hate Qufim...Kazham's not gonna be any better. In fact, it'll probably be worse in the beginning, until all the newcomers to the island learn that Goblin Smithys aggro a lot, and a train of 5 of them to the zone is not uncommon at all.
No all leveling areas are going to be "fun." I wanted to leave the first time I set foot on Kazham, but after a while you find yourself in a decent party and you get the hang of things.
I share your feelings on qufim, but also hate Kazham equally. I agree with the resaons you dislkie it, but I would like to add yet another reason to the mix... the mobs are the same damn things i just thought I put behind me! grrr I am from windurst, so followed the leveling progression of Saruta > Tahrongi > Bubu > Qufim > Kaham. Basically went from fighting mangragora's, crabs and pug's to different mandraga's to other different mangragora's with the occasonal Gob tossed in. I was so happy to be moving to qufim for a change of pace after bubu, and when I got there I thought to my self "oh, neat... more crabs and pug's". But I tough'd it out, and when I was level 25 I was once again excited for a chance of pace, and headed to Kaham. Walk in and think "OMFG MORE #$%$# MANDRAGORA'S!!" I'm officially pissed. I can deal with the idiots there... well sorta can, but that's another story ^^ I can deal with the night time spawn and running for my life... but this deal with the same mobs over, and over, and over... My main job is at Kazham range, and my sub is at Qufim range, and I don't know if I'm gonna be able to tough it out this time.
I hated Qufim with a fiery passion for all the reasons you listed Kith but the simple fact is that if you wanna level up from 20-25 that is the place to go.
I know it sucks, i know there are other places to hunt but your gonna need a party and Qufim is only place that has the people.
Heres the good news, keep plugging away, i hated Qufim, i constantly got in bad groups, met players that didnt know what they were doing etc.
But in each bad group i met 1 or 2 good players and eventually we got to know each other and group with each other and watch out for certain bad players that we had all run into and then the XP flew by, im talking like 1-2 lvls a day.
Just keep trying and keep an eye out for good people and connect with them.
I know it sucks, i know there are other places to hunt but your gonna need a party and Qufim is only place that has the people.
Heres the good news, keep plugging away, i hated Qufim, i constantly got in bad groups, met players that didnt know what they were doing etc.
But in each bad group i met 1 or 2 good players and eventually we got to know each other and group with each other and watch out for certain bad players that we had all run into and then the XP flew by, im talking like 1-2 lvls a day.
Just keep trying and keep an eye out for good people and connect with them.
Bode - 100 Holy Paladin - Lightbringer
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From Bubu go to Shakrami Maze, yes there is a second entrance and you find there Crawlers and Bats.
Get some friends and level there
Get some friends and level there
Ok, I just wanted to ask, how do you get into Shakrami from Buburimu? I explored a bunch of Buburimu last night but I never found an entrance.
My rant about Qufim:
I have a friend that keeps going on about Qufim, how it like a good place to level but they don't like it there. I had never even heard of the place. To me, it seems like the zones follow such a logical progression, outside zones becoming increasingly challenging as you move toward jueno, dungeons increasingly challenging as you venture further into them. I don't see why people all need to fight in one place. It seems pretty obvious that there are many places to go as you are becoming higher level.
I'm still knowhere NEAR strong enough (lvl 22) that it wouldn't be worthwhile to level in the Meriphataud Mountains, or Sauromugue Champaign, not to mention dungeons like Horutoto Ruins Inner/Outer, or Shakhrami Maze. These are all just zones close to Windhurst that I am familiar with. I can still solo a lot of stuff in areas I used to party in for like 50-75 exp a pop. Moving one zone over with a party I'm sure would net great exp. I love traveling around, but when you can party in lots of interesting places, why go all the way to some overcrowded zone? I don't get it at all.
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My character is Sandoria based and did the leveling East/westRon/lathein/dunes/qufim/kahzam. Qufim is a nice pace better than kazham imo. It got stale around level 24. Kazham has Many iT mobs and the experience per mob is great but it is slow going (avoiding the gob trains) I ended up hooking up with a good party in the downs and leveled 2 times in one night. There is a bunker as you go south out of jeuno and alot of iT gobs spawn around there. I stayed there till around half way thru lvl 29 and was forced to go back to kazham and the jungle to finish cause the experience got too slow. Tigers we becoming only T's and EM. Try getting a party to go to the downs and lvl there from 25-28ish then skip to kazham.
Shakhrami Maze is in either F6 or G6 in Buburimu Peninsula.
Why don't people like lvling in other areas? On my way to Jeuno there were maybe a handful of people in Meriphataud Mountains and Sauromugue Champaign. The same seemd to go for Rolanberry Fields and Pashhow Marshlands. Only Jugner Forest seemed to have people and parties lvling.
Why don't people like lvling in other areas? On my way to Jeuno there were maybe a handful of people in Meriphataud Mountains and Sauromugue Champaign. The same seemd to go for Rolanberry Fields and Pashhow Marshlands. Only Jugner Forest seemed to have people and parties lvling.
well, i hated Qufim the first time 'round with a feiry passion, but the second time it was quick and easy and, for the most part, stress free. i'm wondering when the last time you tried it was.. things have gotten better (and worse) in Qufim.. there are a lot of Christmas-gift players there leveling their main, but also a lot of NA Release players there leveling their advanced jobs. so there's one idea.. only join groups where the players are either playing an Advanced Job, or have at least a maxed-out subjob.. you'll know they've most likely been there before and know the drill, and hopefully there will be less stress. that's how it was for me, anyway.
unfortunately, you'll probably only get that luxury if playing your WHM or BLM.. no-one else in Qufim really gets to pick and choose parties :(
and uh.. not to lower your spirits even further, but don't look forward to Kazham. everyone and their entire family (including pets) are there, and it's an even bigger zoo than Qufim now. i loved it the first time.. couldn't wait to get out the second.
lots of us wish people would just spread out and level in new places.. unfortunately, doesn't look like the majority is interested in that idea.
atherisch
40 blm / 28 whm
unfortunately, you'll probably only get that luxury if playing your WHM or BLM.. no-one else in Qufim really gets to pick and choose parties :(
and uh.. not to lower your spirits even further, but don't look forward to Kazham. everyone and their entire family (including pets) are there, and it's an even bigger zoo than Qufim now. i loved it the first time.. couldn't wait to get out the second.
lots of us wish people would just spread out and level in new places.. unfortunately, doesn't look like the majority is interested in that idea.
atherisch
40 blm / 28 whm
orrrr you can just find a really really high level whm or blm/rdm/whm.. just some mage with cure, cure ii and perhaps even cure iii to power level you :D
i've done dunes/qufim/kazham gazillion times. first two times around it wasn't too bad, but after xmas >_>....
so i don't even bother to group until about 25 unless it's with friends that i know can play their role correctly.
i've done dunes/qufim/kazham gazillion times. first two times around it wasn't too bad, but after xmas >_>....
so i don't even bother to group until about 25 unless it's with friends that i know can play their role correctly.
personally, i find that being the leader makes a huge difference in the way my qufim pt will fare. if someone is not a good player, give them a pointer or two and if they still dont shape up, kick them (within reason).
jobs are interchangeable with the exception of a voker and healer... every class can do decent dmg at this lvl, although in different ways. a good puller is a must, and will either make or break the pt.
level range is very important imo because as one party lvls what once was a lvl 20-23 pt becomes a 20-24 pt and xp halves. always make sure you are highest lvl in pt and inv others your lvl or 1 lvl lower. there are enough players in jeuno/qufim to assemble a very good pt most times.
20-22 should go very fast on worms and clippers
23-25 if you have a decent pt stick with chaining clips, if you have a GREAT party move to tower and grab anything there, i've seen lvl 23 pt killing leeches.
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why have you lvld 6 jobs to 20? leveling through valkurm can be just as bad as qufim, if you can figure out how to make it there you should do fine in qufim, so long as you seek shelter by nightfall.
good luck to you =)
jobs are interchangeable with the exception of a voker and healer... every class can do decent dmg at this lvl, although in different ways. a good puller is a must, and will either make or break the pt.
level range is very important imo because as one party lvls what once was a lvl 20-23 pt becomes a 20-24 pt and xp halves. always make sure you are highest lvl in pt and inv others your lvl or 1 lvl lower. there are enough players in jeuno/qufim to assemble a very good pt most times.
20-22 should go very fast on worms and clippers
23-25 if you have a decent pt stick with chaining clips, if you have a GREAT party move to tower and grab anything there, i've seen lvl 23 pt killing leeches.
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why have you lvld 6 jobs to 20? leveling through valkurm can be just as bad as qufim, if you can figure out how to make it there you should do fine in qufim, so long as you seek shelter by nightfall.
good luck to you =)
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Shakhrami Maze is in either F6 or G6 in Buburimu Peninsula.
Thanks a lot! I'll check that tonight. ^_^
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i hate qufim....i havnt been able to get a group in 3 days straight now....im starting not to like the game. i think eq2 looks cool
I'm not trying to be an ***, but have you ever thought that maybe the reason you're so sick of Qufim is that you yourself keep going back for more? I mean, SIX jobs? That's like... I don't know, complaining that sitting the drive thru at McDonald's sucks then getting right back in line again after you drive out to try the chocolate shake instead of the vanilla shake.
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I actually love Qufim. It's my favorite place to level out of anywhere I've been. The only places I hate are Batallia and the Tower thats in Qufim. I've played a bit in Kazham before I got my advanced job and I hated it.
Reason I love Qufim is because I think its incredibly easy once you hit about lvl 23. I just chain snippers and pugils and then go for the occasional acro. Plus the chance of getting the Carbunkle Ruby while fighting acro's in Qufim is always nice. Although everytime my party has gotten one I always lose the lot :)
Reason I love Qufim is because I think its incredibly easy once you hit about lvl 23. I just chain snippers and pugils and then go for the occasional acro. Plus the chance of getting the Carbunkle Ruby while fighting acro's in Qufim is always nice. Although everytime my party has gotten one I always lose the lot :)
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