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#1 Jan 20 2004 at 3:22 AM Rating: Decent
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What would be the Optimal settings for FFX1 for a PC with

512MB DDR memory
2.4GHZ Pentium 4 Processor
Always On Connection
Geforce FX 128MB DDR Video card (PNY)
80GB Hardrive @ 7200RPM and 8MB cache?


I cant seem to find what the settings for those would be thanks
#2 Jan 20 2004 at 3:27 AM Rating: Decent
your best bet is to try different tweaks and do benchmark test for each... Get yourself a good balance between a high score and a setting that will not overheat your card (unless you got good cooling system) Jolt down your results and you will eventually find something that will get you running smoothly
#3 Jan 20 2004 at 3:51 AM Rating: Decent
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The FX5200 is a terrible card for FFXI just to let you know. A Geforce4 ti4200 is actuallt faster on this game.
____________________________
Final Fantasy XI 12-14-11 Update wrote:
Adjust the resolution of menus.
The main screen resolution for "FINAL FANTASY XI" is dependent on the "Overlay Graphics Resolution" setting.
If the Overlay Graphics Resolution is set higher than the Menu Resolution, menus will be automatically resized.


I thought of it first:

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=10&mid=130073657654872218#20
#4 Jan 20 2004 at 3:56 AM Rating: Decent
so true
#5 Jan 21 2004 at 6:56 PM Rating: Decent
Hey maybe someone can help I just got the game and I have a GeForce 4 Ti 4200, and when I start playing FFXI it comes up to full screen and I can hear the guy talk but its all black and the Nvidia logo is at bottom right corner, the screen just flickers, and when the guy is done talkin the menu screen comes up all blurred and still flickers. Anyone got any ideas? Um im not a computer wiz so im not sure what to do. Thanks
#6 Jan 21 2004 at 7:27 PM Rating: Decent
whoa whoa whoa hold the phone
people talk? i haven't heard anyone talk in the game yet. is this true??
#7 Jan 21 2004 at 7:48 PM Rating: Decent
its the opening video as soon as the game goes full screen.
#8 Jan 21 2004 at 10:25 PM Rating: Decent
Everyone thinks you need a super fast computer to play this game.. well you don't. Here are my specs and I NEVER lag nore is the game choppy. The graphics work great and it runs fine.

256 DDR RAM
Geforce 4 MX 440
1800+ Athlon
40GB HD
56k Connection
#9 Jan 21 2004 at 11:09 PM Rating: Decent
What are the resoulutions you run in?
#10 Jan 22 2004 at 5:36 AM Rating: Decent
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just for information.. I just bought a 128 MB GeforceFX 5600.. and it performs 20% WORSE than a 64MB ATI Mobility Radeon 9000.. (Based on FF bench scores)

Tried and tested, on 2 PCs with the same 2070-ish highres benchmark :(

Driver versions didnt seem to affect the result at all...

..well it's off to work to 'borrow' that radeon 9700 now ;)
#11 Jan 22 2004 at 10:57 AM Rating: Default
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Hey maybe someone can help I just got the game and I have a GeForce 4 Ti 4200, and when I start playing FFXI it comes up to full screen and I can hear the guy talk but its all black and the Nvidia logo is at bottom right corner, the screen just flickers, and when the guy is done talkin the menu screen comes up all blurred and still flickers. Anyone got any ideas? Um im not a computer wiz so im not sure what to do. Thanks


GeForce4 ti4200 is a plain amazing card. I play the game on maximum resolution and the graphics are amazing only video lag i get is when i run past the AH.

Anyway, download the new detonator drivers from the Nvidia website. That should work out, run windows update as well. If problem persists go into pref and turn anti-alias off. Turn hardware acceleration down a notch, and make sure you have no corrupt RAM.Also, make sure you have the latest Version of Direct-X.

Edited, Thu Jan 22 10:58:45 2004 by Undermine

Edited, Thu Jan 22 10:59:41 2004 by Undermine
#12 Jan 22 2004 at 12:12 PM Rating: Decent

Just to add to this thread...

I have a 128 bit Radeon 9000...and it the worst POS I ve seen..

I get flashes of colored line thur my character....Sometime I have to stop playing b/c the graphics are unbareable...

I feel Your pain.......

From what I read the ti4200 geforce looks to be the best bet...huh?...Right now it looks like the most expensive,more bits or lastest and greatest video card isn't the answer....Some work great some suck big monkey balls.....

Yea..that how I feel about my video card....I bought it so I can play on-line games....guess not
#13 Jan 22 2004 at 4:40 PM Rating: Decent
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I just wanted to know what settings you guys with the 5200 use lol
#14 Jan 22 2004 at 5:48 PM Rating: Decent
I have that card and my settings are
graphic resolution: 640x480
backround resolution: 512x512
texture compression: high
on-screen maps: uncompressed
and the only checkbox i have is enable hardware mouse cursor

yup yup pretty crappy.
#15 Jan 22 2004 at 6:51 PM Rating: Decent
Hey Undermine when you say new Detonator Drivers is that the 53.03 one? I just updated to 53.03 last night. I got the game to run and was playing for awile I was able to get to lvl 2 and now the game just stops and closes and returns me to my windows desktop. How do you check for corrupt RAM? Any ideas?

Edited, Thu Jan 22 18:50:01 2004 by McCrae
#16 Jan 22 2004 at 8:06 PM Rating: Decent
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Its true, you don't need to have a high end system to run this game at reasonable resolution and frame rate. At least mine is ok.

My system:
1ghz Athlon 100fsb
768mb ram PC133
FX 5200 128mb Pny
80gb 7200rpm HD

At 1024x768 I get very good fps, and only laggs the the AH.
That untill I finish my new computer system :D

My new system will have:
2800+ AthlonXP barton
A7N8X Deluxe
Corsair 512mb PC3200
420w Powersupply
SATA 120Gb 7200rpm HD
FX 5200 128mb Pny (why buy and new card when I already have one)

That wont be finished for a few weeks though, but untill then my current system is just fine.
#17 Jan 22 2004 at 8:18 PM Rating: Default
Had the same problem man, figured out it was corrupt ram issue where one of the slots of ram had corrupt data and was causing crashes. Fairly simple, if you have any ram lying around replace your current one and test it out, see if it works. But before you go looking for Ram try one of the following.


1. Could be a sound issue, i recommend NOT installing any new sound drivers, just turn sound off and try.

2. Could be a configuration issue, latest drivers of Direct X with AGP8.

3. Go to Properties---> display ---> advanced ---> click on your video card and in the popup menu (if you don't have popup menu you downloaded wrong detonator drivers)click Opengl settings. Under performance and capability options make sure no checks are there.
Vertical sync: on by default
buffer flipping mode: auto-select
default color: use desktop

the display driver is nv4_disp.dll

4. Lastly, If none of the above works i'll tell you have to change virtual memory, but that's a final resort.

GL


#18 Jan 22 2004 at 11:41 PM Rating: Decent
Thanks man game works good, now any time my pc is up and running for a bit it I get 3 different blue screens and it says remove BIOS caching or shadowing do you know how to do that? There is also another blue screen that comes up and says something about win2k.dll (something like that) is corupt any ideas on that? and one more that comes up it says ***STOP:0x0000008E (0xC0000005, 0x806099BE, 0xEE3C1BDC, 0x00000000) any ideas? Thanks for the help!
#19 Jan 23 2004 at 1:57 AM Rating: Decent
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my experience with that video card...

i have 2 computers,

my box:
amd 1ghz
768mb pc133 ram
pny ti4400

other box:
amd 2500+
512mb pc2700
pny fx5200 128mb

Shared settings: background resolution: 1280, foreground resolution: 1280, mip-mapping is enabled, texture compression is 'high', on-screen maps is 'compressed', bump mapping, smooth environmental animation, and enable hardware mouse cursor.
the only main difference in the graphic settings is that in the ffxi config i have 'environmental effects' off on the fx5200.

ffxi is a directx9 game, if the video card can run dx9, then ffxi will make the video card do the work. in the fx5200's case, it's too much work.

the ti4400 is a medium directx8 video card. i can turn on environmental effects without a major hit in performance. This machine has some trouble handling Windurst Woods, and the south auction house at a framerate greater than 10 fps or so. This card has problems when there is alot happening on the screen. However, in my mog house it's perfectly fluid.
the fx5200 is a budget directx9 video card. having environmental effects enabled KILLS performance in windy areas (Tahrongi, Burimburu peninsula, must be the alpha **** on the wind). Otherwise, this setup is a lot SMOOTHER than the other one. All of the spells being thown around on a mob does not drop fps at all.

i also know somebody who has a higher end nvidia fx card (5900?) that also has experiences like the fx5200. this leads me to believe that either nvidia needs to work on thier drivers, or squareenix needs to rework thier dx9 stuff, or even allow the ability to disable using dx9 rendering methods.

i have no idea if ati's dx9 cards exhibits the same problem as nvidia's dx9 cards...
#20 Jan 23 2004 at 3:24 PM Rating: Decent
Undermine has some very good solutions to the "locking/crashing" issue. Also, I've found that it helps to

* Lower the AGP to 1x/2x in CMOS.
* Turn down the hardware acceleration by just a notch in the Properties of the graphics card.


By the way, I have the Geforce4 Ti4200 and used to have a bunch of problems. They're pretty much all gone now. Hope that helps.
#21 Jan 24 2004 at 3:46 PM Rating: Decent
Thank you to all who helped out, what I had to end up doing was flashing BIOS on motherboard, and reinstalling video card, and Windows XP, seems to run great now. Thanks again!
#22 Jan 24 2004 at 5:49 PM Rating: Decent
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texture compression is 'high', on-screen maps is 'compressed', bump mapping, smooth environmental animation, and enable hardware mouse cursor.
the only main difference in the graphic settings is that in the ffxi config i have 'environmental effects' off on the fx5200.


Texture compession is bad, it's only for people with lame 32 meg video cards. Using it on a 64 meg video card or greater does nothing except make the textures look worse.
____________________________
Final Fantasy XI 12-14-11 Update wrote:
Adjust the resolution of menus.
The main screen resolution for "FINAL FANTASY XI" is dependent on the "Overlay Graphics Resolution" setting.
If the Overlay Graphics Resolution is set higher than the Menu Resolution, menus will be automatically resized.


I thought of it first:

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=10&mid=130073657654872218#20
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